Go Back   www.ifish.net > Ifish Fishing and Hunting > Ifish Hunting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2009, 11:53 AM   #1
in 'em
 
in 'em's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,087
Default Finding a skull...

If you find a skull on private land can you keep it? What if it's your own private land? I'm assuming the law still applies...same with hunting on your own land, yes?
in 'em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 01:10 PM   #2
Jeremy
Ifish Nate
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Philomath, OR USA
Posts: 3,323
Default Re: Finding a skull...

A human skull?
Jeremy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 01:45 PM   #3
pharmseller
Sturgeon
 
pharmseller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Harrisburg
Posts: 3,581
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
A human skull?
pharmseller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 01:46 PM   #4
Amahnee
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: West Linn, Wilsonville
Posts: 5,929
Default Re: Finding a skull...

+1
Amahnee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 02:17 PM   #5
Jeremy
Ifish Nate
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Philomath, OR USA
Posts: 3,323
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Page 28 of the big game regs state:

No person shall possess or transport
any game mammal or part thereof,
which has been illegally killed, found or
killed for humane reasons, except shed
antlers, unless they have notified and
received permission from personnel of
the Oregon State Police or ODFW prior
to transporting.
Jeremy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 02:49 PM   #6
Teeb
Ifish Nate
 
Teeb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,401
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
Page 28 of the big game regs state:

No person shall possess or transport
any game mammal or part thereof,
which has been illegally killed, found or
killed for humane reasons, except shed
antlers, unless they have notified and
received permission from personnel of
the Oregon State Police or ODFW prior
to transporting.
"No person" ..... seems clear enough!
Teeb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 03:36 PM   #7
in 'em
 
in 'em's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,087
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Animal skull...sorry I didn't clarify.

If you find a skull on your own land and move it to a different point on your land, perhaps into your house where it can stay clean and warm, I suppose that would work huh?
in 'em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 04:07 PM   #8
Roguerunner
Steelhead
 
Roguerunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Eagle point, OR
Posts: 225
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Its not against the law to give a poor old skull a warm place to spend the night..... or two




Quote:
Originally Posted by in 'em View Post
Animal skull...sorry I didn't clarify.

If you find a skull on your own land and move it to a different point on your land, perhaps into your house where it can stay clean and warm, I suppose that would work huh?
Roguerunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 04:53 PM   #9
Linejerk
Chromer
 
Linejerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouve, WA
Posts: 919
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Love it, I would say yes keep it warm
__________________
The Drinking will Continue until Morale Improves
Linejerk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 05:25 PM   #10
huntingfever
Cutthroat
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: coburg
Posts: 50
Default Re: Finding a skull...

if you find it on your property you will want to remove it from there. and or destroy it. If for any reason the cops show up and find it they will say that you shot it and ask to see a tag.
__________________
Fishing is a fill in for Hunting
huntingfever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 05:54 PM   #11
Fur n Feathers
Steelhead
 
Fur n Feathers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 237
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by huntingfever View Post
if you find it on your property you will want to remove it from there. and or destroy it. If for any reason the cops show up and find it they will say that you shot it and ask to see a tag.

Thats funny
Fur n Feathers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 07:54 PM   #12
Gun Rod Bow
 
Gun Rod Bow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sherwood, OR
Posts: 8,400
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
A human skull?
Don't laugh. I found one over 20 years ago on family property. Called the cops. It was a partial, top dome and edge of eye socket. They picked it up but couldn't identify.

They called like 6 months later and asked if we wanted it back...icky.
__________________
Now Jeff wants to be like me

If we shouldn't eat animals, why are they made of meat?
Gun Rod Bow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 08:04 PM   #13
Bow Kill
Tuna!
 
Bow Kill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Scappoose Oregon
Posts: 1,202
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Rod Bow View Post
Don't laugh. I found one over 20 years ago on family property. Called the cops. It was a partial, top dome and edge of eye socket. They picked it up but couldn't identify.

They called like 6 months later and asked if we wanted it back...icky.
Funny how you can have that and not a deer.
Bow Kill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 08:04 PM   #14
JKW
Steelhead
 
JKW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: On The Banks of Billy Chinook
Posts: 107
Default Re: Finding a skull...

I must interject. My best friend is state game officer and he tells me you only have to keep the tag with the meat from the animal. (IE, on top of the freezer where the meat is stored). They have no means of tracking a tag to a skull. Where you get into trouble is when you try to sell without a state permit. If it is on your own land, don't fret it. Numerous times I have had game officials ask for tags on my head mounts in the garage, but when I tell them it left when the meat was gone they have nothing to go on. Pays to have inside info.
JKW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 08:22 PM   #15
BuxnDux82
Chromer
 
BuxnDux82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 757
Default Re: Finding a skull...

From what I have read and heard that your tag has to be with the biggest portion of that animal. So yes the meat, but when its gone the biggest portion would be the head and or horns. What if you have a unused archery or rifle tag couldn't you just use that tag and keep it with that head you found and say its legal then??? Just curious
BuxnDux82 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 08:23 PM   #16
Nw dukn
Ifish Nate
 
Nw dukn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tigard,Oregon
Posts: 2,830
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linejerk View Post
Love it, I would say yes keep it warm
I second that..
__________________
"If it flies it dies, if it runs it gets gunned"
"If it doesn't have a "GREEN HEAD" it ain't a "DUCK"
Robert Glover
Nw dukn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 08:27 PM   #17
JKW
Steelhead
 
JKW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: On The Banks of Billy Chinook
Posts: 107
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Yes, according to my inside info, there is nothing they could prosecute you on.
JKW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 10:21 PM   #18
wapiteaser
Ifish Nate
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: On the Deschutes
Posts: 2,468
Default Re: Finding a skull...

and once again, all the outlaws identify themselves. No respect for the laws at all.
wapiteaser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 11:45 PM   #19
BrianMaguire
Sturgeon
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,463
Default Re: Finding a skull...

I think the regulation is poorly worded. It gives the impression that something can be illegally found. If you find it it can't be illegal, OK, thats weak semantics but it could be interpreted that way, AND if found during a legal season, with a legal tag, it CAN be legally tagged. If you find a buck dead two minutes you can legally tag it, there is nothing that states that it can't be dead longer than a certain time period, so a year later if you are deer hunting you CAN tag a picked up skull, as well you should.
__________________
"The significant problems we face today cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein
BrianMaguire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 04:48 AM   #20
dubl_t
Tuna!
 
dubl_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Aloha, OR./ Saratoga WY.
Posts: 1,162
Default Re: Finding a skull...

In 'em, what condition is the skull in? give us a pic please.
Tom.
__________________
What do you mean "I'm not paying attention", wait.....what was that last part?

dubl_t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 06:42 AM   #21
BarroomHero
Tuna!
 
BarroomHero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Canby, OR
Posts: 1,443
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JKW View Post
Numerous times I have had game officials ask for tags on my head mounts in the garage, but when I tell them it left when the meat was gone they have nothing to go on. Pays to have inside info.
The question is why have game officials been in your garage "numerous" times?
__________________
Their is a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.
BarroomHero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 07:12 AM   #22
o/uhazjo
Steelhead
 
o/uhazjo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: portland, OR
Posts: 260
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by in 'em View Post
If you find a skull on private land can you keep it? What if it's your own private land? I'm assuming the law still applies...same with hunting on your own land, yes?

What kind of skull is it? put a pic up if you can.
o/uhazjo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 08:35 AM   #23
in 'em
 
in 'em's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,087
Default Re: Finding a skull...

It was just a question I asked in reference to the following thread...

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=232604

I haven't found a skull...
in 'em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 08:38 AM   #24
in 'em
 
in 'em's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Salem
Posts: 3,087
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarroomHero View Post
The question is why have game officials been in your garage "numerous" times?
I'm thinking the same thing...when people say to "Be careful, if the cops show up you might get in trouble"...why would the cops show up at your house? Never happened to anyone I know unless they've done something they shouldn't. And that's not just picking up an antler with part of a skull attached.

Last edited by in 'em; 01-23-2009 at 08:39 AM.
in 'em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 09:28 AM   #25
Myles
Tuna!
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,311
Default Re: Finding a skull...

I read an article a couple of years ago about a guy in Colorado i believe that was going out "camping and scouting" and would kill large elk. He wasted the meat and hung the head up in a tree then come back later and "find" the head with large antlers then mount and sell them. Probably why you're not allowed to keep found skulls, people doing things like this.

Myles

Last edited by Myles; 01-23-2009 at 01:38 PM. Reason: spelling
Myles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 09:31 AM   #26
Eagleclaw
King Salmon
 
Eagleclaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Canby
Posts: 6,127
Default Re: Finding a skull...

just split the skull cap and be done with it
Eagleclaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 09:49 AM   #27
DogZilla15
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,086
Default Re: Finding a skull...

I think the law is designed to deal with poaching, road kill and sale of legally harvested game animals and parts. I would think body parts not associated with illegal activity would not be why the law was written.
DogZilla15 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 11:23 AM   #28
Lefty
Chromer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Corvallis
Posts: 544
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by huntingfever View Post
if you find it on your property you will want to remove it from there. and or destroy it. If for any reason the cops show up and find it they will say that you shot it and ask to see a tag.
Exactly! Found a spike bull several years ago and didn't split it. Hung it up outside on the shop, state bull drives by and asked to see the tag...she ended up taking it...
__________________
Therein lies the problem!
Lefty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 01:00 PM   #29
GDuck
Chromer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 681
Default Re: Finding a skull...

And she would be giving it back if you pursued it. What if it were your dad's from 1975 and the tag deteriorated in the weather?

G
GDuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 01:02 PM   #30
Eagleclaw
King Salmon
 
Eagleclaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Canby
Posts: 6,127
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by GDuck View Post
And she would be giving it back if you pursued it. What if it were your dad's from 1975 and the tag deteriorated in the weather?

G
so you wanted him to be dishonest to the OSP officer... and if she pursed if more she could have written him a ticket too.
Eagleclaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 01:19 PM   #31
jvp
Ifish Nate
 
jvp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,450
Default Re: Finding a skull...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty View Post
Exactly! Found a spike bull several years ago and didn't split it. Hung it up outside on the shop, state bull drives by and asked to see the tag...she ended up taking it...
this is why i laugh when people say they wouldn't take the time to investigate/prosecute/harrass you for... insert questionable activity here.... i know of successful careers based on such things from city to fed employees.
__________________
me and Tommy got something in common
jvp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 06:04 PM   #32
huntingfever
Cutthroat
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: coburg
Posts: 50
Default Re: Finding a skull...

In one of OSP's newsletter a guy got a ticket for not showing a tag for a skull that he said he had found. unlawful possession of deer parts. Corse he also said that he had shot two other bucks in 07 and 08. with no tag for 08.
__________________
Fishing is a fill in for Hunting
huntingfever is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Cast to



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:23 PM.

Terms of Service
Page generated in 0.22875 seconds with 10 queries