Animals have rights paper

[Blacktail Slayer]

https://www.ussportsmen.org/Page.aspx?pid=1763

Alarm Bells Ring- Key Obama Job Goes to Animal Rights Supporter
Harvard Law Professor to Head Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs
1/20/09

The new head of a federal office with review authority over all agency rules has an extensive record supporting animal rights and even calling for the banning of hunting. This raises the possibility of pro- hunting, fishing, and trapping rules being deep sixed before they ever get a chance to move forward.
The new head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) will be law professor Cass Sunstein. Picked by President Obama from his perch at Harvard, Sunstein’s long time positions on animal rights immediately ring alarm bells for sportsmen.
Sunstein has been an unyielding advocate for the animal rights movement. He has written extensively on the subject and shown a strong dislike towards hunting, going so far as to say that “we might ban hunting altogether, at least if it’s sole purpose is human recreation.” He also has suggested that it makes sense to begin “allowing suits on behalf of animals.” As the editor of a well known 2004 book on animal rights, Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions; he compiled legal arguments made by numerous leaders of the movement. You can read some of Sunstein’s thoughts on animal rights by Clicking Here.
The concern over Sunstein’s views stems from the authority he will have as the head of the OIRA. While few people have ever heard of it, the OIRA has significant power over regulations coming from federal agencies.
A part of the federal budget office, the OIRA has been given extensive authority to perform data based cost/benefit analyses of all new federal regulations. Though not allowed to issue opinions on the merits of any proposed regulations, the OIRA can block rules if it considers the supporting data not strong.
It requires little imagination to envision an ardent opponent of hunting finding numerous technical reasons to put the kibosh on pro-hunting regulations for years to come.
The USSA will continue monitoring these developments.

[Rank Amateur]

More evidence that the Russian scholar saying the USA is going to explode in a civil war might be right.

[nevermiss]

How many of us "have" to hunt? I'm very happy to have it as a recreation, as are those of us who bring along cameras to record our experiences afield, or who keep journals, or who write for publication, or who simply enjoy time away from everyday life. Leave us the hell alone!

[Rank Amateur]

How would all the wild meat be replaced, I doubt you can change peoples habits of eating meat. With the emphasis on reducing environmental damage to public grounds from livestock, I don't see how we would replace all the meat protein that would be lost. The oceans are tapped out and the feed lot cattle operations are facing high costs due to ethonal production. Costs would sky rocket, while people are loosing incomes and at the least buying power. Could be a perfect storm.

[flipperdog]

It continually appears the ability for common sense is dwindling.
The food pyramid that we see today was covertly exploited by PETA.
The ability to manage our wild critters is exploited and managed by PETA and similar groups. We are in for a bumpy ride. Update your NRA and get a friend to join. God Bless
Remember when Al Gore tried to quote John 3:16 and misspoke saying John 16:3. Which states"they will do such things because they have not known the Father or me." May this be God speaking to us???

[Limbhanger]

Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

More evidence that the Russian scholar saying the USA is going to explode in a civil war might be right.

It is bound to happen at some point the way the divide is getting wider and wider.

[BlacktailBowhunter]

The HSUS endorsed OBAMA. He was the only one they endorsed.

Obama was quoted as saying "the way we treat our animals is a reflecion of our society"

That quote is on the USSA website as well and you should be able to get to it from the On Target alerts at the link posted above.

Just the facts.

BTBH

[ehunter]

We have been talking about this for years but no one listens

[Old Goat]

God put the animals on earth for our use.

I hope that they are ready to start paying for game management and habitat if the sportsmen do not.

I fear this is only the begining of problems to come.

01/20/2013

[sealgal2008]

He said that hunting whose sole purpose is human recreation might be banned. Hunting for deer and elk has many more purposes than just recreation. Meat protein and population control are two other excellent reasons for hunting besides just human recreation.

Predator and varmit hunting will probably the first hunting methods that will be targeted. Since neither predator or varmit hunting offers meat protein (I dont know anyone who eats coyote or prairie dogs) and population control isnt related to most predator hunting. The sole purpose would be human recreation. All those videos people have posted on various websites of prairie dogs exploding will be used against all hunting.

Betty

[SImudBogger]

Originally Posted by sealgal2008

and population control isnt related to most predator hunting. The sole purpose would be human recreation.
Betty

think about that statement. Population control is what predator hunting is all about! Cougars, coyotes and bears do huge damage to animal populations, especially in the spring time when fawns are starting to show.

[Old Goat]

And what about the damage that predators do to domestic meat production?

Leave game management up to the fish and wildlife departments and do not make it part of the political process.

As with global warming...we are all seeing just how wrong they can be.

[Keeper]

The last figures that ODFW have on their website are from 2001. http://www.dfw.state.or.us/wildlife/.../economics.asp

Only 8.1% (8% was national average in 2001) of the total Oregon population hunt. Only 14.9% fish.

Too many people living in the city watching Disney movies?

Too many people think meat magically appears at Safeway?

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Old Salt

As with global warming...we are all seeing just how wrong they can be.

You're referring to all the "informed" people who insisted climate change was NOT happening?

Kinda fun to go back thru the archives and pull up those 'its-a-conspiracy' posts.

As much as he hated to be bothered by facts, even President Bush had to concede climate change is real.

[Rank Amateur]

Originally Posted by sealgal2008

He said that hunting whose sole purpose is human recreation might be banned. Hunting for deer and elk has many more purposes than just recreation. Meat protein and population control are two other excellent reasons for hunting besides just human recreation.

Predator and varmit hunting will probably the first hunting methods that will be targeted. Since neither predator or varmit hunting offers meat protein (I dont know anyone who eats coyote or prairie dogs) and population control isnt related to most predator hunting. The sole purpose would be human recreation. All those videos people have posted on various websites of prairie dogs exploding will be used against all hunting.

Betty

I wouldn't go so far to say hunting varmits doesn't have an effect on populations. Hunters can definately have an effect on predator populations, if not, why are there limits to bear and cougar hunting???

Yes, we could get rid of the hunters when it comes to sage rats and other ground squirels. The farmers would just use poison and then the raptors that make a killing on the rodent population will be out of a major food source. Seems, like people don't fully understand how this works.

[Myles]

Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

How would all the wild meat be replaced, I doubt you can change peoples habits of eating meat. With the emphasis on reducing environmental damage to public grounds from livestock, I don't see how we would replace all the meat protein that would be lost. The oceans are tapped out and the feed lot cattle operations are facing high costs due to ethonal production. Costs would sky rocket, while people are loosing incomes and at the least buying power. Could be a perfect storm.

What meat?? They don't want you killing innocent cattle or fish either.

[Old Goat]

Originally Posted by garyk

You're referring to all the "informed" people who insisted climate change was NOT happening?

Kinda fun to go back thru the archives and pull up those 'its-a-conspiracy' posts.

As much as he hated to be bothered by facts, even President Bush had to concede climate change is real.

First...President Bush is a RINO.

Second....Look at the sunspot activity. During the period of warming here on earth in the past couple decades, sunspot activity and solar flairs were high. Now the are almost non existient. Note that the global temps have been falling now for a few years.

Third...the earth has been warming for thousands of years, since the last ice age. It is nieve to think that we have the power to change what has been happening since before man was even on the planet.

This is the problem when people do not look to a higher power than earth to guide them. The earth becomes the altar, rather than a place to be enjoyed and used to our benefit...with reason.

[Rank Amateur]

Originally Posted by Myles

What meat?? They don't want you killing innocent cattle or fish either.

Of course "they" don't want us to eat meat, but wait until they try to pull that off with the public. The words "tar and feathers" will become popular again. Just not going to happen, too many people like their Big Mac's. Hunters might be a minority, but meat eaters are not.

[ommedia]

Were just preaching to the choir, as we all know.

The question is who and how are we going to "defend" our sport? We need to play "the game" or we are going to get run over.

We all have a lot on our plates with families, work, money/bills, and they know this. They are counting on us to lay down and give up.

what are we going to do about it? Supporting organizations is GREAT! Getting involved and informed is even better. Actions speak louder than words. What are you willing to do?

[ehunter]

This is what its all about guys if there are plenty of predators they don't need hunting ITS THEIR PLAN. As for farmers and ranchers find a new business because we don't need meat if they get their way and it is not their concern about the economics...


Predator and varmit hunting will probably the first hunting methods that will be targeted. Since neither predator or varmit hunting offers meat protein (I dont know anyone who eats coyote or prairie dogs) and population control isnt related to most predator hunting. The sole purpose would be human recreation. All those videos people have posted on various websites of prairie dogs exploding will be used against all hunting.

Betty[/quote]