What "out of the box" round to shoot?

[fishlis 1]

I just bought a Rem. 700 .270 from an I-fisher who loaded his own rounds, which I don't do. So, question is, what out of the box round should I use? Thanks in advance.

Sam

[Eagleclaw]

what type of game are you using it for?

[baltz526]

i would start with remington corelocs

[fishlis 1]

Originally Posted by Eagleclaw

what type of game are you using it for?

BT deer only. I know that the some newer rifles recommend that you use a bullet with a special coating? I don't know the year of the rifle but imagine it is at least 5 years old.

[sliverpicker]

My son's Rem. 700 .270 shoots the Federal Premium Vital-shok 140 gr. Nosler Accubond really good.

[Eagleclaw]

Originally Posted by sliverpicker

My son's Rem. 700 .270 shoots the Federal Premium Vital-shok 140 gr. Nosler Accubond really good.

this is a great round for deer.

[Lucky Guy]

I just got a 300 wm that shoots rem core lokt 180's well enough to me wonder whether to reload for it or not. My Howa 308 shoots the fed. hi energy w/180 partitions really well. I think you just have to try a few and see what works for you.

[smock1123]

First Remington loads are the worst you can buy. for example a 140g Remington soft point shoots 2900 out of the barrel and drops 46.4" t 500 yards. I would recomend 140g hornady light mag, soft point that shoots 3100fps and drops 36.6" ant 500 yards. Or if you want to make it a littel more flat shooting you can shoot a 130g hornady light mag round that shoots 3215 out of the barrel and drops 34.2" at 500 yards.

[smock1123]

Originally Posted by Lucky Guy

I just got a 300 wm that shoots rem core lokt 180's well enough to me wonder whether to reload for it or not. My Howa 308 shoots the fed. hi energy w/180 partitions really well. I think you just have to try a few and see what works for you.

If you switched to a fedral round you could save about 7" of drop at 500 yards. those rem loads are very slow shooting.

[Tilla]

Federal Premium.

[sidewinder]

Whatever your gun likes. All the companies make good ammo. Federal vital-shok is a good a place to start.

[DogZilla15]

What does 500 yards have to do with hunting/shooting Blacktails?....or any deer?

[adobe wall]

Originally Posted by smock1123

First Remington loads are the worst you can buy. for example a 140g Remington soft point shoots 2900 out of the barrel and drops 46.4" t 500 yards. I would recomend 140g hornady light mag, soft point that shoots 3100fps and drops 36.6" ant 500 yards. Or if you want to make it a littel more flat shooting you can shoot a 130g hornady light mag round that shoots 3215 out of the barrel and drops 34.2" at 500 yards.

I'll agree with Baltz, the first thing I'd try would be Remington core-lokts. They flatten deer like they've been hit with a hammer and generally shoot quite good. If they don't work, try something else.

Last thing I'd worry about is velocity at 500 yards when shooting factory ammo. If the rifle/load combo is accurate, the shooter can compensate for the drop just like he/she will have to compensate for wind drift and mirage (if any). Learning to shoot at 500 yards with factory ammo is an expensive proposition.

Pick the round that shoots best in your rifle, then learn to shoot it at the distances you'll hunt. If you have two rounds that both shoot extremely well, then pick the one with higher velocity or that has the terminal performance characteristics you want. Velocity is important, but it's third behind accuracy and bullet weight to consider when shooting at medium to long range.

jmho, aw

[Art Vandeley]

Another vote for Remington Core Lokts

Mitch

[nevermiss]

The best thing to do if you can afford it is to try as many brands of ammo as you can and see which best suits your gun. For my .270 it's always been Winchester 130-grain softpoints. And, anyone who would settle for a 500 yard shot must be in a wheelchair, not to mention I find that extremely unlikely with blacktail hunting, anyway. Good luck to ya!

[rem721]

40 years of hunting and 39 of those I have used core lokts... tried another brand one year and was not happy with the performance. Most of us aren't capable of 500yd. shots...

[chromebright]

Originally Posted by sliverpicker

My son's Rem. 700 .270 shoots the Federal Premium Vital-shok 140 gr. Nosler Accubond really good.

[cooky]

Originally Posted by baltz526

i would start with remington corelocs

I have a 700 .270 that LOVES corlokts... shoots 'em REAL nice. I would start out with corelockt in 130 and 150 grain and see how it goes.

[smock1123]

Originally Posted by DogZilla15

What does 500 yards have to do with hunting/shooting Blacktails?....or any deer?

just saying remington rounds are the slowest and cheapest round out there. aslo trying to show him there is a huge difference in over the counter rounds. why not have the best performance out of your rifle.

[spottedhawk36]

i shoot rem core loks i should ask the dead deer what they thought of them

[smock1123]

Originally Posted by spottedhawk36

i shoot rem core loks i should ask the dead deer what they thought of them

I think you guys are missing my point. You can kill a deer with a sharp wood stick, not debating that, just trying to say there alot better performing riffle rounds out there.

[adobe wall]

Originally Posted by smock1123

I think you guys are missing my point. You can kill a deer with a sharp wood stick, not debating that, just trying to say there alot better performing riffle rounds out there.

Actually I think we all understand but just respectfully disagree. Accuracy and the ability to anchor the deer are really all that matter. 500 yard trajectory, cost per round, and muzzle velocity simply aren't primary selection criteria for me on a deer rifle cartridge.

jmho, aw

[Larry G]

I gave Corelocks a chance two separate times and had two misfires at animals (my bad for giving them a second chance). I have since then used both Federals and Winchesters. I pay a little more per box but you get what you pay for. I have had very good success with both of those rounds. Every gun shoots a little different so check them out!

[Cliff D.]

Like many have said, find what your gun likes. Mine likes Core-lokt 130's & Federal Premiums with 150 Partitions.

[spottedhawk36]

Originally Posted by smock1123

I think you guys are missing my point. You can kill a deer with a sharp wood stick, not debating that, just trying to say there alot better performing riffle rounds out there.

i know what your saying, i just happen to use core loks from remington yes i agree there are better ammos out there but they are pretty spendy for a box, if you wanna shoot higher end ammo i say go for it what you say is true.

[John in Oregon]

Originally Posted by fishlis 1

I just bought a Rem. 700 .270 from an I-fisher who loaded his own rounds, which I don't do. So, question is, what out of the box round should I use? Thanks in advance.

Sam

Sam,

Want to just stop by after work and load some ammo for your 270?

The only bullets I have on hand for the 270 bullets are 130 Hornady SP, but I can supply the dies, primers, powder and brass. Bring your rifle along just to make sure that we get the cases sized enough for the chamber in your rifle.

John

[Grantspastor]

Originally Posted by baltz526

i would start with remington corelocs

I agree this is a good place to start. CoreLoc bullets have killed a lot of deer, moose, and caribou for me. Try them and see how your gun shoots them. Even though I handload, for BT deer I don't use heavily constructed premium bullets like I do for larger game. I like a bullet that is a little more frangible and expends its energy quickly. The .270 is my favorite caliber for deer. I like the 130 grain bullets. If your gun doesn't like these rounds, try something else. No need IMO to shoot expensive premium bullets for BT deer. Now for elk and larger game...it's a different story

[motocykill]

Federal premium Ballistic tip... 7mm rem mag browning BAR love these shells..

[12pulls]

Never had a failure with Remington Corelocs in 30 years, one failure in the early 80's w/ Federal. CoreLocs, the "deadliest mushroom in the woods". Used them on Oregon Mule Deer & Blacktail, Oregon Roosevelt Elk & Rocky Mtn Elk, Idaho black bear, Montana Whitetails, Montana Antelope. Never a problem. Never a 500 yard shot either.

[Walter Sobchak]

I would have to second the Horandy light mag rounds. From what i've found the 130's are the fastest, flatest shooting, most accurate factory load avail. And I think out to 200 yds+ the 130 downrange energy is greater than the 140, 150.

[ehunter]

I think this is the fun part of a new rifle. It gives time to experiment with different loads until you find the one the gun likes. You can pick up different boxs and shoot them until you find the one that the gun likes. As mentioned above don't discount the bullets because of the price the ticket is the one that the gun likes. If its going to be primarily deer you might check out hornady sst all of my guns have shot that ammo well. If its elk then you will want a more stout bullet.

[Legend21]

Originally Posted by adobe wall

I'll agree with Baltz, the first thing I'd try would be Remington core-lokts. They flatten deer like they've been hit with a hammer and generally shoot quite good. If they don't work, try something else.

Last thing I'd worry about is velocity at 500 yards when shooting factory ammo. If the rifle/load combo is accurate, the shooter can compensate for the drop just like he/she will have to compensate for wind drift and mirage (if any). Learning to shoot at 500 yards with factory ammo is an expensive proposition.

Pick the round that shoots best in your rifle, then learn to shoot it at the distances you'll hunt. If you have two rounds that both shoot extremely well, then pick the one with higher velocity or that has the terminal performance characteristics you want. Velocity is important, but it's third behind accuracy and bullet weight to consider when shooting at medium to long range.

jmho, aw

Completely agree here, great analysis. I've used the Rem Core-Lokts for a decade and never been disappointed. They are inexpensive and shoot fantastic...good luck.

[Old Guys Rule]

Federal Premuim with Nosler Accubond

Handload quality and great bullet at a reasonable cost.

[SImudBogger]

corelocks would be fine. My hunting crew has had good luck with winchester power points for deer and silvertips for elk.

I'm not a fan of federal classic. WAY to soft

[in 'em]

I use 130gr Rem CL's in mine...you shouldn't be shootin' distances that this bullet won't reach accurately in my opinion. They sure do the job when they hit. Btw, I hunt blacktails in the NW with mine...spot and stalk...so long shots are expected...as opposed to beating the brush and shooting close.

[code1p36]

I agree with the Core Lokt. My father has the same gun and has shot this bullet as long as I can remember, he has killed many deer and an elk with this bullet. I have shot the Core Lokt for years and have been happy with it. Plus, it is one of the cheaper bullets you can shoot. It does not hold together as well as an Accubond in my opinion but I think it is a great deer bullet.

[Half fast Toyn]

Originally Posted by baltz526

i would start with remington corelocs

second that

[sandman]

Originally Posted by Tilla

Federal Premium.

These are what i use also

[SuperX]

I've shot Rem Core Lokt for years too, kill a lot of game with them but I don't recommend them anymore unless you just want to collect brass or shoot something down your new gun to break it in. The core lokt these days shoot unreliable, you may get a good box that shoots ok, but then I've had as much as 6" groups @ 100 yrds with others boxes. Usually the whole box is good or the whole box is bad.

I feel sorry for the guy who shoot occasionally and can't get his rifle to sighted in thinking it’s him when it the bullets (the center of gravity of the bullet is off the center line). I really feel sorry for the guy who tweaks a sighted in rifle before hand with a bad box of Core Lokt and thinks he has it right, this is the guy who has a couple of flier thinking it him (flinched or ?). I've seen this problem with these calibers 2506, 7mm-08, 7 mag, and 300 win mag. I've not sure what Rem is doing or if their using seconds or what! But several guys here at work and I won't buy them anymore. Yes their cheaper but you get what you pay for, I'm reloading again. If I had to buy it’s Federal or Horndy. Just my two cents if you buy them make sure you shoot at least 5 round groups before you trust that box. It just doesn’t make sense to me to waste my time, or risk my hunting trip for a questionable box of shells. Anyway something to think about, do what you want.

[James in Idaho]

I've witnessed two failures of Core-loc's on big game, one in a 30-06 and one in a 300 RUM. Both times forky mulie bucks. The 300 RUM was exceptionally bad. I won't touch 'em for a hunting load. Now to be fair I think the only time in my life I used factory loads was my first couple of years hunting. Since about 1974 I've used nothing but handloads, most often with Nosler Partitions. My dad just gave me four boxes of .257 Roberts (old Norma and Winchester rounds), guess I'll have to buy or build a .257 bob!

[hookanook]

Your ability to hit anything will depend mostly on the amount of practice you have had with that gun. An inexpensive like the remington corelock will allow you to get more practice.