Ammunition Accountability Act

[motoxaaron03]

Please take the time to read this proposed act as it will greatly effect everyone who enjoys and exercises our 2nd ammendment.

Let's please keep the conversation clean and as non-political as possible so the mods don't have to delete this thread.


The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition AccountabilityAct is being introduced across the country. Below is a list of states
where legislation has already been introduced: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture, a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand-loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

[smalldog]

I'm going to buy more reloading brass and powder and bullits.
Better start making ammo now.

[stillwater97]

Dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

[baltz526]

this tactic is being used to attempt to bankrupt the gun rights organizations, like NRA and others. mass filings are expensive to fight. and in the current economy, the gun rights organizations are getting lower donations. to fight these attacks on YOUR constitutional rights.

[Bucolic buffalo]

Read some of the bill's that are proposed. They are really scary. Here is an excerpt from one of the amendments in one of the Illinois proposals.
"Provides that there is no rulemaking authority under the Act, but that the Governor may suggest rules by filing them with the General Assembly and requesting that the General Assembly authorize such rulemaking by law, enact the suggested rules into law, or take other appropriate action in the General Assembly’s discretion."
These bills are a shotgun approach by the anti-gun movement with the hope that one or more states will pass one. Not good.
These bills will also severely limit bulk ammo buying. No more made over seas affordable ammo, and if you buy bulk ammo that is to military specs forget it. On the other hand, it may make bulk buying the only way to buy ammo unless each bullet must have its own identifying number. Either way it will not be a good situation.

[webbed foot]

This is only the first of several firearm restrictions that we will likely see proposed during the new administration. We need to voice our disapproval of any/all firearm and ammunition restrictions.
There are several reports available that talk in depth about the reprecussions of the ammunition acc. act. Not only will the price increase because of the proposed tax, but also because the manufacturing process will become more difficult. What a manufacturer can churn out in one day will now take several days to a week or more to produce. These increased production costs will obviously also increase the price of ammo. How does this effect law enforcement officers who shoot and train on a frequent basis? I also don't like the idea that if my vehicle or home gets broken into and my ammunition gets stolen and used to commit a violent crime, then I immediately become the prime suspect.
Gun laws only work to control law abiding citizens. They can't control the criminals...so they control those of us who follow the laws. All this does is gives criminals another advantage....making them even more difficult to control.
Join the NRA, sign up your wife..your kids...your parents...your neighbor.
We're in for a fight over our second ammendment rights.

[Old Goat]

This is a backdoor attempt to gun control...just like the earlier bill that would have made ammo sales a workers comp issue and would not allow for sales through companies with employees. With the current swing towards liberalism...we will see a lot more of this before its over. We have a fight on out hands for the next few years...for sure. Be ready to write your elected officials when prompted, even if they are not pro gun rights. We did it with the illegal alien's, it can be done with our gun rights.

We face a big fight. The opposition tend to be vocal and gun owners usually are not. We will need everyone to step outside of their comfort zone and call/write their elected officials. The NRA is probably the best group to be a part of to get updates and calls to action. You wont hear it on the media...other than talk radio.

[ehunter]

I think New York has a similar law now and it has cost millions they have not traced one murder back to the ammo so it has been deemed worthless. I will see if I can dig up what I read on this unless some else can shed some light. The point is we can have our guns but we won't be able to afford our ammo and then the gun companies will close. It is a back door method to get take our rights away.

[Hunt'nFish]

yep, gonna be some very scary times ahead.
Never thought I'd be heard saying, "You'll have to pry my RELOADER from my cold dead hands."
As if they don't have more important issues to legislate.

Well you all elected these wacko's. Pull out your wallet, and put up or shut up.
And call your congressman or woman and make it plain as day that you WILL see that they are not re-elected if they support this and anything else restricting our 2nd Amendment Rights.
Support the NRA, GOA and NSSF and even the Reloading Equipment Manf. Assoc. (Which I believe are HQ'd in Lk. Oswego)
Hunt'nFish

[Rank Amateur]

Wasn't there a post on the Life in General page about a Russain expert that talked about the collapse of America? Could these type of laws lead to the civil war that he talked about? Is taxing a mans ammo much different than taxing his tea? Maybe that Russkie knew what he was talking about.

[motoxaaron03]

Originally Posted by webbed foot

...Gun laws only work to control law abiding citizens. They can't control the criminals...so they control those of us who follow the laws. All this does is gives criminals another advantage....making them even more difficult to control....

Originally Posted by Hunt'nFish

...As if they don't have more important issues to legislate....

I couldn't agree more...

[Big Billy]

You can't hardly buy any gun powder or primers here since the election. As soon as the stuff arrives at the sporting goods stores people are spending $1,500 to $3,000 on reloading components. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[genghis]

The nation voted for more gubmint control and that's what yer gonna get.

I am absolutely bi-partisan in my opinions. Juan McCain and all his buds will be just as much for this as Barney Frank et al.

We are way past the beginning of the end.

[Hog King]

As I recall...this came around last year and is pretty much dead everywhere. I'm sure glad it died. We'll see plenty more such nonsense this year.

So..let's make sure that what is circulating on the net is for real and current to boot. We need all our energy to fight what's sure to come.
Let's focus our energy on things that are really happening...now....Like this:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-R...ifying-fireams

Later...

Jer

[shorthair]

Thank you but just checked old report at least for wa. died last year.

[motoxaaron03]

Sorry. I did not know that it was old. It's still scary that they even tried to pass something like this...

[Quaka Wacka]

Originally Posted by shorthair

Thank you but just checked old report at least for wa. died last year.

You can bet that this isn't the last you see of it. It will be brought back.

[westcoastsrt4]

Originally Posted by motoxaaron03

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand-loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

its actually .005 cents, 1/2 of 1 cent not a nickel, not that it matters to me either way, cause the proposed law is dumb either way, crooks don't buy ammo to kill ppl they steal it just like they do with the guns they use

[gweedo#1]

Dont know if this has be posted already but ill throw it out there anyways..I received this from a friend today...So what do you guys think..

Ammunition Accountability Legislation

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.


Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!


If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!


This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.


Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!


To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
By the end of his first term we will be wearing coveralls with numbers on them !!!!

[Got One!]

well the bills all say "buy" but not to much about make. The cost and realistic way to make and retool all ammunition manufacturers would put them out of business. Its going to be interesting the next 4 to eight years.