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Old 01-07-2009, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default Anyone ever try to put RainX on your scope?

I was watching Santiam338's bear hunt video (he knows how to Bear hunt BTW), and one of the hunters (I think his brother) could not get a shot off because the scope was all wet and he could not see through it. We have all had that problem, I almost missed getting a shot off this year for the same reason. So it got me thinking on how to prevent fog ups/wet glass. RainX came to mind. Has anyone tried this? I suppose it can't hurt.
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:45 AM   #2
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IRC Leupold says it's ok.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:07 AM   #3
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Just get a pair of Buttler Creek scope caps. Never had an issue with rain on a lens.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:21 AM   #4
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Butlers are great until you open them and get 1 small drop of condensation on the lens, then fog starts to form. You don't realize it has happened until it's too late.
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Butlers are great until you open them and get 1 small drop of condensation on the lens, then fog starts to form. You don't realize it has happened until it's too late.
Hunted the coast range for 15 years and never had an issue with it. Don't breath on your optics, don't uncover you caps with the barrel pointed at the sky, don't expose your scope to wild temp changes, don't put you binos inside your coat.
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Hunted the coast range for 15 years and never had an issue with it. Don't breath on your optics, don't uncover you caps with the barrel pointed at the sky, don't expose your scope to wild temp changes, don't put you binos inside your coat.

Good advice there! Works every time for me!
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:25 AM   #7
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Butlers are great until you open them and get 1 small drop of condensation on the lens, then fog starts to form. You don't realize it has happened until it's too late.

Or while hunting heavy coastal cover the lid gets torn off altogether.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:56 AM   #8
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Hunted the coast range for 15 years and never had an issue with it. Don't breath on your optics, don't uncover you caps with the barrel pointed at the sky, don't expose your scope to wild temp changes, don't put you binos inside your coat.

Maybe, with another solution I don't have to worry about any of that, of course we all try to keep the scope dry, not breath on it, etc. But it still happens.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:11 AM   #9
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From my experience with RainX, it causes the water to sheet and run off. I think Id rather have the water bead on a lens than sheet and cause blur.

I use a Bosch and Lomb lens cleaning wipe that we use on our safety glasses at work. The cloth itself is lens safe and the moistener has cleaning and anti-fog properties.

Butlers are not waterproof..... I know. After my "incident" the company's responce said to the effect that the covers are ment to protect against "excessive" moisture and be a "barrier" from the elements. They are not guaranteed waterproof... but do have a satisfaction guarantee... which I used. I have yet to find a scope cover that works to my satisfaction.
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Road hunters dont have the same issues as your "off the road" hunters have to deal with.

No scope cover works perfect. Get out of the truck and into the wet brush and your gonna have some issues with moisture on the scope lenses. I think the old Michaels system was the best with the big rubber band.

I use a lot of rainX on my boat windows. No reason it wont work on rifle scopes.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:33 AM   #11
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Currently, I'm trying a commercial anti-fog spray ('can't recall the name right now). 'Don't yet feel I have enough experience with it to make a report. I'll try to remember to post the name here later in case anyone wants to try it. Don
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:09 AM   #12
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Road hunters dont have the same issues as your "off the road" hunters have to deal with.

No scope cover works perfect. Get out of the truck and into the wet brush and your gonna have some issues with moisture on the scope lenses. I think the old Michaels system was the best with the big rubber band.

I use a lot of rainX on my boat windows. No reason it wont work on rifle scopes.
I didn't like the rubber band thing at all, released it once and it wrapped all around the bell of the scope - lost that opportunity - I bet someday someone is going to wonder why there is a set of them things 80' up in a tree.

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Yeah, I like Michaels the best, that's what I use. Too bad Bushnell bought him out and you can't get them anymore.

I keep a folded up paper towel in my shirt pocket to wipe off rain drops and sometimes I use FOG ELIMINATOR on the lens when the temps get down below 40.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:21 PM   #14
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Rain-x is pretty harsh stuff. It seems to be alcohol based, or suspended or something like that.

I wouldnt put it on a scope for fear it would trash the O-rings used to seal the scope. It sure seems to trash windshield wipers fast.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:19 PM   #15
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hunting the coast range, i havent found anything full proof. almost better to let em get wet...but what i hate is the heat from my eyeballs and face steam up my binos when its cold and wet out...
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:34 PM   #16
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hunting the coast range, i havent found anything full proof. almost better to let em get wet...but what i hate is the heat from my eyeballs and face steam up my binos when its cold and wet out...
I've had decent results with the FOG ELIMINATOR wipes. It does produce a slight film, but does pretty good actually. I get them from Vista Optical at Fred Meyer. I bought some spray online, that's for paint ballers, but it sucked. I wear glasses too, so it's a real pain for me to keep things clear.
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The windshield company that replaced my window a few years said
do NOT use Rain-X, so I would not try it. Rain-X has shown to pit glass. It is abrassive to glass also. They said the best thing to do is to use regular car wax on windshield and windows. Wiper blades will remove wax faster than on the side windows. My
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The product I mentioned above is KleerVu Anti-fog cleaner. I do not know a local source - - google it. Like I indicated, I don't have enough experience with it yet to know whether to recommend it or not. Don
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:23 PM   #19
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Or while hunting heavy coastal cover the lid gets torn off altogether.
...and that's why I don't hunt the coast...
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:59 PM   #20
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Real Men use Ironsights!.......I use a leupold Vari XIII and I use the dumb rubberscope bikini....water still gets in there
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Rain-x leaves a film that produces distortion. Coastal hunting in thick cover it may not matter but I'll be darned if I'd have it on any scope of mine.

What would concern me a lot more is damage to the sealing surfaces in the scope, and scratching. Rain-X itself can't scratch the lens but what you use to put it on and take it off sure can.

Even the best quality lens cloths will grab any spec of dirt and scratch the lens. Thats why eyeglasses eventually get small scratches no matter how careful you are with them. Take something hard (glass) and something soft (cloth) and put an abrasive between them (a spec of dirt) and the hard surface will get scratched. I'd be extremely concerned about buffing on the glass.

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Rain-x leaves a film that produces distortion. Coastal hunting in thick cover it may not matter but I'll be darned if I'd have it on any scope of mine.

What would concern me a lot more is damage to the sealing surfaces in the scope, and scratching. Rain-X itself can't scratch the lens but what you use to put it on and take it off sure can.
I hear you, however, what if that scope fog, wet scope lens keeps you from a buck or bull of a decade or lifetime? I will tell you I will take the cost of a scope over missing that, IF something Like RainX would make the difference. One of things I am seeing with regards to RainX or an other films concerns are factors or issues that I dont think the average scope goes through.
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The product I mentioned above is KleerVu Anti-fog cleaner. I do not know a local source - - google it. Like I indicated, I don't have enough experience with it yet to know whether to recommend it or not. Don
This is what I use and have had fairly good results with it. I don't use scope covers and hunt the second season rifle elk in Saddle Mt., now that is a testament.
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The product I mentioned above is KleerVu Anti-fog cleaner. I do not know a local source - - google it. Like I indicated, I don't have enough experience with it yet to know whether to recommend it or not. Don
Where are you buying it Don? I ordered some of that online and they sent me a different product. Didn't care for what they sent me.
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I'm pretty certain I ordered it directly from the manufacturer: kleervu. Don
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The best solution to fogged scopes are spectacular hip shots.
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I wouldn't use rainX either it 'melts' wiper blades quick. And would probably do the same to scope seals, and they may or may not warranty it.

For me the butler creek covers seemed to come open on thier own a lot while beating brush. So far after one season my leupold flip up covers have done well. I also use the above mentioned anti fog after a Leupold rep at the sportsmans show recomended it. It may sound funny but I've found the best thing to do if your scope is fogged up, and you need it in a hurry, is dump clean water on it and then give it a good shake. With the fog treatment it seems to leave the lens pretty dry, with only a few drops on it. Good enough for a quick shot with a only slightly blurred view.
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I wouldn't use rainX either it 'melts' wiper blades quick. And would probably do the same to scope seals, and they may or may not warranty it.

For me the butler creek covers seemed to come open on thier own a lot while beating brush. So far after one season my leupold flip up covers have done well. I also use the above mentioned anti fog after a Leupold rep at the sportsmans show recomended it. It may sound funny but I've found the best thing to do if your scope is fogged up, and you need it in a hurry, is dump clean water on it and then give it a good shake. With the fog treatment it seems to leave the lens pretty dry, with only a few drops on it. Good enough for a quick shot with a only slightly blurred view.
I have experienced the same thing, the more I can leave the lenses alone the better off, just let the rain shed off the Kleer-Vu. You can see through the scope good enough to shoot. I wear glasses and carry bino's in my coat, they stay clear with Kleer-Vu.
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Road hunters dont have the same issues as your "off the road" hunters have to deal with.

No scope cover works perfect. Get out of the truck and into the wet brush and your gonna have some issues with moisture on the scope lenses. I think the old Michaels system was the best with the big rubber band.

I use a lot of rainX on my boat windows. No reason it wont work on rifle


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My scope gets plenty wet and fogged up while hunting from the hood of the truck looking for elk and deer to shoot at
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I was watching Santiam338's bear hunt video (he knows how to Bear hunt BTW), and one of the hunters (I think his brother) could not get a shot off because the scope was all wet and he could not see through it. We have all had that problem, I almost missed getting a shot off this year for the same reason. So it got me thinking on how to prevent fog ups/wet glass. RainX came to mind. Has anyone tried this? I suppose it can't hurt.
Don't use rain x, I was told it was very hard on the lense coating. A leupold rep. recommended Kleer-vu and it works pretty well, its not a miracle cure but it does help with fogging and does bead water off your lenses, you have to re-apply daily for good results. I have also use in on my bino's with some success.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:49 PM   #32
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use open sights for the fogging problem, or shoot from the hip if you get close enough to your target. last time I got rain-x in my stocking at Christmas I used it to re-waterproof some old failing rain gear.
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