yesterday at the pile.

[The Bad Fish]

i had the pleasure of fishing with pilar and hoggemin at the pile yesterday. we started by jigging a ton of herring in the bay then running out over the bar and south to seal rock.

when we arrived at seal rock we nailed a huge cabezon on the first drift. then pilar got a ling and we released one shaker. the bite died pretty fast so john suggested if we were going to the pile we had better get going. we punched in the numbers and we were off. the seas were beautiful, about a 4 to 5 ft swell and no wind. half way to the pile we spotted a ton of fish on the finder in this red almost blood colored water so we stopped to drop some herring,
jeremy and i picked up a fish as soon as the leads hit bottom. we both reeled up a 24" whiting or hake. jon said they were worthless unless you are making imitation crabmeat. "reel em up i said".
off to the pile we were again and about a mile from our destination the water turned green again and 53 to 53 deg. caught lots of fish but no salmon. great day with you guys and it will be my last outside the bar for a while, the weather is turning and i will be fishing out of the driftboat soon, what a great way to end the season.

[HOGGEMIN]

It was great meeting you and fishing with you. Thanks for the help filleting some of Pilars and my catch. I can't wait for the next BUTT season to begain in May 2004. there is nothing better than spending the day out on the big blue pond catching fish with the great people of ifish.

[jocose]

Bug was the water red due to a feeding frenzy below or was it some other reason. Ive seen lots of strange things in the ocean but never red water. curious jocose

[The Bad Fish]

i think it was what they call red tide. literally the wake coming off the prop was blood red :shocked: . john saw it and im sure hoggem'in did too.

[fish assassin]

Same thing as Dopey Bay. It is an Algae bloom gone crazy! Did you guys happen to
notice any of the Man-O-War jelly fish in the water? There were soooooo many of
them up off the Siletz River that I was having an awful time getting my gear down thru
them!! I was trolling for Ling Cod and caught one Chinook that dressed out at 14 pounds.
The chinook came up with a Jelly wrapped around her face ... a BIG Jelly!! The fish
was just spinning on the line out there cause the toxins from the Man-O-War had gotten
to it. Made it really easy to put in the boat! :grin: :grin:

-assAssin-

[Popeye]

Like Mark says...Plankton Bloom...Not Red Tide. :grin: It actually happens every year. The first time I saw it, many years ago, I thought Red Tide also. After researching it, I found that Red Tide has no color Go figger!

[kamloops]

The Red Algae Bloom is Quite large off Tillamook Head, all the way to the Columbia River.
All the way North on the 124.40 line to .20.
We captured a few Razors early Sunday AM. They had some Red Algae in their stomachs, but they tasted just as good.
I am still here or I wouldn't be writing this.
Oh Yeh, no Jelly's noted all day. :shocked: :shocked:

[Pilar]

The water was a brown-red like rootbeer. Pretty spooky stuff. The water is almost always grey, green or blue ... never red.

Thanks you guys, that was the one to end the season on. Like Mike said it is always a killer day on the water when you are running with the Salty Dogs. It is so seldom that we get to just bottom fish because we are always chasing the glamorous fish.

Bug_flicker caught a seabass that was spitting up red shrimp with spots at the high spot at the middle of the pile.

Days like Sunday just reinforce my faith in the plastic jesus as a fish locating device. Once you find a reef or dropoff it is yours time and again. What did you think about the last waypoint, Bug_flicker? Was that awesome ling fishing or what? Like we were talking about at the beach Sunday, just run and gun. If it's not happening at this waypoint, maybe the next one will light up. We even managed a 35" flattie. I talked to him about eating more so he could be about 40" by next May.

That last spot was found almost 6 years ago. I seldom go there because it is so far south on the Pile and could never go there again but for the miracle of GPS. The pinnacle is only about 50 feet east to west wide by 100 feet long.

[Miss B Haven]

We CR guys are used to this brown/red water. It's been both in the river and outside. In the river it seems to be much more purple, more brown outside. It floats up and down with the tide inside.
Kinda reminds me of the old treatment plant in Hillsboro whenthe cannery was doing beets! Doesn't have the same aroma though :shocked: .
It is an algae of some sort. I've had really good success fishing the dark edge of it (outside). I've seen a lot of baitfish in it too. I think the bait likes to hide in it, or maybe they are actually feeding on the algae?


[ 10-07-2003, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: Miss B Haven ]

[Mark Mc]

Hey Pilar & Bug Flicker, when you say "seabass" what kind of rockfish were you actually catching...were they yellowtail rockfish? Inquiring minds want to know....Thanks!

[Pilar]

Mark Mc, Sebastes, what? only 85 different subspecies.

On 'Pilar',
4 nice lings, about 10 lbs each
1 Canary Rockfish
1 Orange fish with blue ringed white spots along the lateral line. Small and I have no idea what it was
2 big, and decompression sick yelloweye.
1 Cabezon about 18"
1 Quillback
1 Copper Rocfish
1 catch and release 35" Halibut
and 1 Black Rockfish

For bottom fishing a pretty mixed bag. Nearshore it is usually all Black and blue rockfish. Although I know a few reefs that are just infested with Quillbacks and China rockfish off Lincoln city.

For once I did not have to float test the Yelloweye. They are rare and we almost never catch them [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img] , )grin( but good eating and almost always dead at the boat. So it was a huge relief that we honored the fish by actually landing it for once, instead of letting it float away dead.

Anyway a nice day on the ocean and I got to use up my 8 weeks old and untreated with Stabil fuel in the boat. No doubt I am on the wrong end of a no fishing or boating winter and at the other end of it I do not want to deal with a sick boat with a belly full of the 10%alcohol fuel that absorbs water or untreated stale gas in general. So I got to do the annual cleanup on the gas tank.

In a week or so I hope to take the New Jersey Sword fisher, Tom and his visiting buddy from Florida crabbing in T bay :grin: and then put the boat away for the year. :depressed: :depressed:

[ 10-07-2003, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Pilar ]

[kenai]

We motored though that stuff Sat on the way out to the pile as well. Seems like it extended clear out to the rockpile but it didnt seem to affect the fishing, we caught 2 salmon in the midst of what looked like some biblical plague.

[corrirod]

I and another commercial guy had fairly good success fishing in that algae last week. There are definative edges to it and the the best luck was where the really blood red edge changed to a brownish red but semi clear color then to blue and clear very quickly, within 20 yds. If you fish on a pattern from blue to blood red you almost always picked up a fish in the transition area. Most of the fish were all feeders but an occasional large or XL would come up. Also notable was their hootchie preference which seemed to be an orange/yellow glow hootchie with a small silver flasher. The fish in the blue water preferred the small brass spoons.

Just my findings.

[Miss B Haven]

Originally posted by corrirod:
Most of the fish were all feeders but an occasional large or XL would come up.
Just my findings.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Rod- you been working on the Salty Dog Clothing again?
:grin:

[corrirod]

Sorry Mel, that there is commercial fishing lingo! [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img] You know, that commercial talk that requires the secret commercial fishing decoder ring to decipher!

It means most of the fish were 10-12 pounders with the occasional 15-20+!

[The Bad Fish]

on the bug_flicker

1 ling about 27 inches
1 cabezon about 8 pounds. no joke just ask john
1 orange fish with the white spots
3 hake or whiting i think they call them. released unharmed
1 monster yelloweye about 6 pounds

john
running and gunning was a blast.. if you need a ride crabbing let me know. i will be running in t bay all winter crabbing. after i get a new prop.

[Metal Manipulator]

Kenai Glad you found some salmon. I heard you call again right when I was in the middle of the worst tangle, double rigs on the down riggers. took about twenty minutes to untangle, cut cut untwist retie. We ended up boating eight salmon and keeping three the largest 38 inches and thirty lbs. The fish were from the surface to 125'. They attacked the chartruse downrigger clips several times can you say should have had on hoochies.


Robin

[fish assassin]

Rod:



-assAssin-