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Old 12-16-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Okay, finally got the last of the Dillon XL650 progressive parts & pieces, bought about 1500 CCI 400 primers, got some nice Nosler bullets and a couple thousand rounds of good brass.

The piece I'm missing is powder; there's way too many options out there. I read the archives/search and seen some recommendations for H335, and a few others. Is the H335 it, or are there other powders we should be looking at for loading up 223 rounds for our AR's?

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:42 PM   #2
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I have four .223 ar's and one in a .308. For my .223 I use h 335 it work well for me. I loaded about 7000 rounds in the past 4 weeks or so. I am sure there is better but this one is fine.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:03 AM   #3
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I load varget for heavy bullets 60gr and up andx benchmark for lighter ones.
Also load on a 650.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:21 AM   #4
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:45 AM   #5
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As above and don't forget BL-C(2). Meters well, I reload it well below max levels. I also use Benchmark.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:22 AM   #6
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Being new to reloading, I read some posts that said some powders don't flow well in some progressives. Are the powders you guys have mentioned so far, Varget, Benchmark, Accurate, and BL-C2 good in progressive presses? I read where the H335 works fine in the XL650.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:17 PM   #7
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Varget is a fairly coarse-grained extruded powder. It doesn't flow throw a powder measure very well. You'd be best to hand weigh charges of Varget.....which isn't much fun when you've got lots of rounds to load.

Benchmark, H335, W748 and AA 2230 are all fine-grained powders, suitable for the .223, that meter very well. RL-10x & RL-15 are small-grained extruded powders that also meter fairly well.

There are lots of good powders for the .223. I've got some load development to do in a new AR, and I'm planning to start with Benchmark. I've had great results in the past with this powder.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:19 PM   #8
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Not sure about the Accurate but BL-C2 is similar or smaller than the H335 ball powders; excellent in auto measures. Benchmark is very small extruded almost as good as Ball powders, Varget is medium extruded stick.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:41 PM   #9
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H 414 flows good it is a ball powder.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:02 PM   #10
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At Camp Perry there is a row of stores that are rented to vendors during the national matches. The sheer quantity of Reloder 15 that is sold during that time is staggering. There is a reason for that.

If you are shooting heavier bullets, it is phenomenal. VVN540 is the only other powder I use in a .223, but that is in a very limited role. Yes, you will want to meter R15 onto a scale then trickle it up but you'd do that anyways if you were interested in the best accuracy.

One thing I will say is to be very cautious of powders that do not fill the .223 case. I have seen a handful of failures due to the AR-15 feed ramp pushing the bullet back into the case. When that happens the round sounds like a very distinct dud. I have never seen a bullet stuck in the barrel due to this, in every one of these I witnessed the powder burned by the bullet that was pushed completely backwards into the case. That failure cannot happen with a powder that fills the cartridge case.

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Old 12-17-2008, 05:35 PM   #11
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I was waiting for THE authority here to speak. I learned alot right there on what to use.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:13 PM   #12
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AW gave me a recipie for RL15 and Hornady 75gr BTHP's. Without any tweaking it was shooting consistantly under 1/2". He's definatly the guy to listen to on the AR subject.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:19 PM   #13
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I shoot 55 grain nosler BT's in my AR with a full charge of benchmark. It also likes Varget. Both shoot well under 1/2 inch at 100. I tried CL-2 and H335 as well as W748 and they were around an inch, so it pays to try some different ones if you are really concerned about tiny groups. If you're just looking to go bang a bunch of times in a row, then buy the cheapest stuff you can find .

I use a RCBS digital powder scale/thrower so even the bigger grained powders come out perfect. I'm going to try RL15 now that AW has recommended it. Nosler brass has been excellent for me and you can reload it many times over without having to trim.
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