Tred Barta (rant)

[willametteriveroutlaw]

What do you all think?

I personally think he is a disgrace to the hunting community and should stick to fishing. Whether is be Peeing in his waders on a seaduck hunt or his most current embarassment aired on versus this weekend. Where he wounded a 340 class 6 point with an arrow he stated didn't shoot well. Watching his hunting shows is slighly less painful than watching a Rosie Odonnel marathon and the image he protrays is not one we want to see protrayed as hunters. I am personally refusing to do business with any of his sponsors and encourage you all to do the same.

[takedown]

I agree.

[Bait Bucket]

All his money has affected his brain. Wish I had his money.

[Eagleclaw]

i can't stand the guy and refuse to watch any of his shows or buy anything that joker offers to endorse... You need to add to your poll.. i woudln't watch either.... they guy can't shoot but he'll shoot at anyting no matter the distance or if the game is running... he makes me sick...

[sprigkiller09]

I was VERY disgusted in his caribou hunt when he was lobbing arrows at running/trotting game at 45-50 yards. That shows no respect for the animal and shows his complete lack of ethics. The Barta way is a total joke. What he portrays on many of his episodes is exactly what hunting doesn't need.

[Hog King]

I personally have thoroughly enjoyed every Tred Barta show that I have seen. Whatever his faults, he doesn't sit in a stand over a timed feeding station. I've not seen every show, that's for sure, but so far I like the guy.

He seems to hunt hard and is not afraid of getting dirty or not taking a questionable shot. Tred's a "more real" hunter than most of the guys I've seen I've seen on TV.

I'd have to say that the guys on the Eastman shows are among the best.

[GameChaserFid]

Yeah I have mixed feelings about the guy. He is sometimes pretty entertaining but he sure seems to talk a lot about fair chase. But I think if you are gonna talk about fair chase then turn around and take a very poor shot at caribou running or a bear that is walking away from him with a long bow at that is just plain dumb. But as of lately I'm not too into his hunting. More of a Huntley Fan than anything else.

[micah]

Don't watch his show. I cant stand the guy. He's taken some very questionable shots on national television and thats not the image that needs to be portrayed for archery hunters.

[Oregonhunter]

He really does hurt our sport....I like how he says he has to wait for a good 20 yard shot than starts letting them fly at 40 yard running game. I would not ever even think about shots like that using modern tackle.

His attitude stinks and I do hope folks dont think we are all like this. I understand that it apprears he hunts harder than some but things can be made to look that way too, I just dont buy everything I see on his shows. I stopped watching his show about the time I could feel myself wanting to launch the TV remote at him!

I hope his show gets pulled some day but most likely wont happen any time soon.

oh

[Bait O' Eggs]

Treds is a love him or hate him kinda guy.

I like Tred, always have liked how he isnt always guided up on a hunt doing nothing but trailing along behind a guide and only being there to pull a trigger. Tred actually gets out and covers some country on foot and expends some effort.

To many hunting shows are the same thing, whitetails over a feeder, or sitting in a tree stand or some booooooooooring thing I dont want to watch.

Tred has marketed himself a bit different. I like the change from other outdoor type shows.

I got to meet Tred this summer when he filmed a tuna fishing show off our coast. When the cameras were turned off, he was a normal guy with a beer in his hand telling stories.

I hope he gets back out next summer for some more tuna fishing in Oregon.

[dynarider]

Personally the guy gives me headache,but i did watch his elk hunt episode and i have to say he did everything the way anybody else would have,got in position,waited for the bull to turn broadside and loosed the arrow. I would have taken that shot and if anybody says they wouldn't they are full of it. Unfortunately he made a bad shot and couldn't recover the bull but not for lack of trying. Alot of hunters have made bad shots and lost animals,did they stop hunting because they felt bad? I doubt it, but Tred did. The question was should he stick to fishing, honestly I think he should because fishing is what he's good at. It's his right to hunt if he wants to just as it's our right to change the channel,but don't tear him down for taking a shot anybody else would have taken. Just my opinion

[fish boss]

you should start another poll for bow hunters to see how many pieces of game they could not find do to bad shot placements

[Eagleclaw]

Originally Posted by dynarider

Personally the guy gives me headache,but i did watch his elk hunt episode and i have to say he did everything the way anybody else would have,got in position,waited for the bull to turn broadside and loosed the arrow. I would have taken that shot and if anybody says they wouldn't they are full of it. Unfortunately he made a bad shot and couldn't recover the bull but not for lack of trying. Alot of hunters have made bad shots and lost animals,did they stop hunting because they felt bad? I doubt it, but Tred did. The question was should he stick to fishing, honestly I think he should because fishing is what he's good at. It's his right to hunt if he wants to just as it's our right to change the channel,but don't tear him down for taking a shot anybody else would have taken. Just my opinion

I'm not tearing him down for that shot on the bull.. i didn't see that show but have read on other hunting sites that he just made a bad shot... granted every archery hunter has made them.. but he has a history of making bad judgements on shots... his carbiou show did me in... he was flinging arrows at moving animals that i wouldn't even think of taking with my compound bow.. i might have even passed with a rifle but to take a shot at a moving animal with a long bow at those ranges is just terrible.

[DogZilla15]

Think I'll invite him to go Sturgeon fishing with Salmonfisher77 and me. Teach him how to set an anchor.....Yes.....the handcuffs are supposed to be that tight!

[wanafish]

So if I remember right didn't he use stone points he made himself on that recent elk hunt? Wooden arrows and long bows? The only "good" shot I've seen him make is the moose he got at 8 yards. That seems to be his effective range. All of his long shots at running game are disgusting and a black eye to the ethical hunter. Wish he would stick to fishing.

[dynarider]

Originally Posted by Eagleclaw

I'm not tearing him down for that shot on the bull.. i didn't see that show but have read on other hunting sites that he just made a bad shot... granted every archery hunter has made them.. but he has a history of making bad judgements on shots... his carbiou show did me in... he was flinging arrows at moving animals that i wouldn't even think of taking with my compound bow.. i might have even passed with a rifle but to take a shot at a moving animal with a long bow at those ranges is just terrible.

And that's why i agree that he should stick to fishing at least on national television and until someone higher up bands him from hunting all we can do is not watch and hope they pull his show or sign a petition to get his hunting off the air.

[handsmellikenet]

Tred is a crazy SOB that can get on my nerves, but never the less he does do things the hard way! I can respect that he packs out his own animals, gets to his hunts buy foot not atv and he is one of the best shots I have seen with a long bow. I think some guys think that is easy, here's a challenge for you guy's. Grab a long bow with a 50lb draw and see if you can hit a five gallon bucket at 30yards and then think of some of the crazy shots he has made. I truly don't believe he is careless with his shots. I just believe the leval of difficulty is being underestimated by some of the people that watch his show. Any one that can shoot, can bust a bull at 100 yards with a rifle, but even a 20yard shot with a long bow is a feet of its self.

[Eagleclaw]

Originally Posted by dynarider

And that's why i agree that he should stick to fishing at least on national television and until someone higher up bands him from hunting all we can do is not watch and hope they pull his show or sign a petition to get his hunting off the air.

I'd sign that petition....I've sent my emails to VS network.

[steelhead22]

If every bowhunter who's experienced the situation when a good shot goes bad was required to stop hunting...there wouldn't be many of us left.

If that single event is what's pushed you "over the edge", then we as hunters are ALL in trouble. If THAT shot can cause that much anger in another SPORTSMAN, disregarding the fact that this guy stands up for TRUE hunting, we've got a full on breakdown within the ranks here.

You also mentioned "peeing in his waders"...well, hey, although I think its completely ridiculous, it's HIS deal. I couldn't care less, because **** in Tred Barta's waders isn't "disgrace to the hunting community"...in my personal opinion. I'm in the hunting community, and pee in your waders isn't a disgrace to me? Actually, it's pretty funny that of ALL the things people hammer the guy for, you decided peeing in his waders was in the top TWO!!!

I have to agree with you guys though. Some of the shots on the caribou hunt were "questionable", at best. Not what I would have chosen to do.

[death roe]

Originally Posted by fish boss

you should start another poll for bow hunters to see how many pieces of game they could not find do to bad shot placements

i dont know if that was a dig at bowhunters but i know for a fact losing animals happens to anyone with any weapon not just archery, as hunters we must put forth the best effort we can to recover game.

[willametteriveroutlaw]

Originally Posted by steelhead22

If every bowhunter who's experienced the situation when a good shot goes bad was required to stop hunting...there wouldn't be many of us left.

If that single event is what's pushed you "over the edge", then we as hunters are ALL in trouble. If THAT shot can cause that much anger in another SPORTSMAN, disregarding the fact that this guy stands up for TRUE hunting, we've got a full on breakdown within the ranks here.

You also mentioned "peeing in his waders"...well, hey, although I think its completely ridiculous, it's HIS deal. I couldn't care less, because **** in Tred Barta's waders isn't "disgrace to the hunting community"...in my personal opinion. I'm in the hunting community, and pee in your waders isn't a disgrace to me? Actually, it's pretty funny that of ALL the things people hammer the guy for, you decided peeing in his waders was in the top TWO!!!

I have to agree with you guys though. Some of the shots on the caribou hunt were "questionable", at best. Not what I would have chosen to do.

Thats not my point, I have made bad shots as well on game. (i have one on a video that will never be released) The point is that he made the statement that he knew his arrow didn't fly well but chose to shoot it anyways. As far as I'm concerned thats completely irresponsible and gives the impression that hunters are irresponsible. As far as shooting a longbow, this is not a dig on long bows, its a rant about poor sportsmanship and setting a bad example. If you watch the other shots he takes most of them are unethical as they get. Combine that with an arrogant attitude that he is a leading authority on the sport and it creates a real black eye for the hunting community.

[Oregonhunter]

Originally Posted by fish boss

you should start another poll for bow hunters to see how many pieces of game they could not find do to bad shot placements

I understand that most of us have lossed game due to either a poor shot or sometimes even a good one, this does include rifle hunters (I lost a bull this year and I still feel like throwing up when I think about it) but with that said I did not take a running shot at it or fling an arrow 70 yards.

Things happen and we can all agree on that but the guy takes shots that are very poor at best. For every good shot I have seen him take I have seen him take at least 3 poor ones that many guys would now better than to take. Notice I did not say all because not everyone feels the same way about some shots but c'mon 40 yard running shots with a bow?

I have hunted since I was young and after 20 years of it my record is not perfect either but I can tell you I have done my best to learn from them and not repeat them if at all possible. My lost animals from archery have been due to miss judging the distance not from the animal running at 20-30 miles an hour when shooting.

I would like to see him learn from his mistakes and not take such poor shots but we dont see that on his show...instead he just keeps flinging arrows out there.....I am sure I and many others may loose game in the future even if we take only the best shots due to archery being what it is, we kill by cutting and getting that broadhead in the vitals not like with modern firearms and getting the benefit of energy as well. Even with the best place shots game sometimes cant be recovered. I dont understand how they do it but some game seem to have the ability to vanish with a great will to survive.

I just think he needs to not take such poor shots without thought like he does. My 2 anyways

oh

[BlackBass]

I like the guy! Simple as that.

[willametteriveroutlaw]

Originally Posted by handsmellikenet

Tred is a crazy SOB that can get on my nerves, but never the less he does do things the hard way! I can respect that he packs out his own animals, gets to his hunts buy foot not atv and he is one of the best shots I have seen with a long bow. I think some guys think that is easy, here's a challenge for you guy's. Grab a long bow with a 50lb draw and see if you can hit a five gallon bucket at 30yards and then think of some of the crazy shots he has made. I truly don't believe he is careless with his shots. I just believe the leval of difficulty is being underestimated by some of the people that watch his show. Any one that can shoot, can bust a bull at 100 yards with a rifle, but even a 20yard shot with a long bow is a feet of its self.

You are correct its not easy to shoot a long bow, but there are several long bow shooting hunting figures that do it successfully. I.E. larry D Jones, Michael Waddell, and others who do it with out giving the sport a black eye. There are several guys on this site for that matter who do it ethically and well.
As for the hardway thing, eastmans do things the hard way as well (no quads, alot of unguided hunts etc) (BTW treds usually with a guide) But they do it without looking like a bumbling idiot.

[steelhead22]

Originally Posted by willametteriveroutlaw

The point is that he made the statement that he knew his arrow didn't fly well but chose to shoot it anyways. As far as I'm concerned thats completely irresponsible and gives the impression that hunters are irresponsible.

I watched the show and did not hear any statement like that. But, I will try to dig up the episode and watch it again.

If he KNEW that particular arrow was a bad shooter, then yes, that was irresponsible. I'm just not sure that's exactly what he said? Is it possible that you misinterpreted what was said?

Don't get me wrong, I'm neither a fan nor opponent of Tred Barta. I like his shows. I agree with A LOT of what he says and stands for. I disagree with some things as well.

Overall, the guy is against many of the things I am, and supports a "do it yourself" mentality, so in my book his OK.

There are PLENTY of other people out there to expend my energy of "being against" than Tred Barta. Like people who ACTUALLY matter.

[Pond]

I like watching Tred and my wife hates watching Tred...

At least he has the gumption to air his hunting adventures whether he did the right thing or not. Some of his episodes end with him not taking a animal. Which is realistic in the hunting world, even losing one.

I've seen many people who claim to be ethical and law abiding do the same or worst.

Probably my favorite show is Eastman's, but I felt a little slighted on an episode where Guy couldn't get a white tail with his bow so he pulled out the Weatherby. I don't think there would have been any shame in not filling that tag and made him more of a "one of us guys". But that's probably also a part of real hunting when filling the freezer or the expense of a hunt for most. But for multi state and species celebrity hunters, so what if you have tag soup for one meal....

Pond

ps: watching food plot white tail hunting is about as entertaining as watching a number 3 coyote trap in the desert.

[steelhead22]

Originally Posted by willametteriveroutlaw

But they do it without looking like a bumbling idiot.

OR.....they just edit those parts out!!!

At least the guy shows ALL aspects of his hunt? Even the least flattering ones.

This guy gets video of his mistakes and doesn't pull the :"i have one on a video that will never be released".

I'm probably playing devil's advocate on this one, but it seems like A LOT of emotion from you guys for small things.

BTW- What are you boycotting WRO? No more watching the VS. station for you?...or is that "different"?

[steelhead22]

I've been looking around on other forums. Seems to be a common "hate" for Tred Barta. What's interesting, is that the VAST majority bash the guy for "being fat" and "tripping while stalking that elk".

Are these people serious?

I can understand the poor decisions on shots...that's a VERY valid point...but all the other stuff is just ridiculous.

[duck_crazy101]

i like him but he does some dumb things but i did love watching him nail a mallard in mid air with a bow

[handsmellikenet]

Originally Posted by willametteriveroutlaw

You are correct its not easy to shoot a long bow, but there are several long bow shooting hunting figures that do it successfully. I.E. larry D Jones, Michael Waddell, and others who do it with out giving the sport a black eye. There are several guys on this site for that matter who do it ethically and well.
As for the hardway thing, eastmans do things the hard way as well (no quads, alot of unguided hunts etc) (BTW treds usually with a guide) But they do it without looking like a bumbling idiot.

My point is there is allot more so called hunters on T.V. than Just Tred. I don't agree with most things he does, but I will give him props for his skills with a bow.
On the network he's on has alot of so called experts that hunt ranches. They have these animals hand fed put in a five acre pen and give every one the impression these guy's are great hunters! That to me is crazy! Not a guy who takes a risky shot, I wouldn't take. I do see your point and I am not saying he's the picture of what every hunter should be.
I just have a hard time bashing him when there is alot of smoke and mirrors on those shows. Were at least on that show they do give it to you straight and don't cover up some of the not so great shots. You can be mad, or learn from his mistakes.

[Lucky one]

The guy puts out actual honest hunting shows. He's arrogant and can be painful to watch when he makes mistakes but I like him lots better than the whitetail experts.

I've also seen guys go caribou hunting with compound bows. As far as "ethical" shots I have yet to see a caribou holding still or within range. The most common shot seems to be fifty yards or better walking parallel to the hunters.

[Dan360]

I watch him the same reason I watch Spanish Bull Fighting. One day, he'll lose and THAT will be a sight to see!

[DustyRod]

[quote=willametteriveroutlaw;2306708]What do you all think?

his most current embarassment aired on versus this weekend. Where he wounded a 340 class 6 point with an arrow he stated didn't shoot well.


This is no way takes away from the respect I give him as an angler/captain but....
I watched this show and seeing that arrow hanging out of that bulls gut as it ran away was just sad and unecessary. I understand this can happen with any type of hunting but using the type of equipment he uses combined with his style of hunting/decision making increases the odds so much from todays technology.

I can understand the appeal and would guess to compare it to catching a fish on my homemade bamboo rod and flies I tied with the deer hair or pheasant tail I harvested from the past season. However the error margine using his equipment is so much higher with the animals he pursues.

I guess it all comes down to what one life long hunter and conservationist (who has hunted all over the world) told me:

"Well I guess it comes down too...... if you were that animal what you would want to be killed with.......?"


Josh

[Bigbuck6x9]

dont be hating on tred barta!!!

[CombinationLicense]

Originally Posted by handsmellikenet

Tred is a crazy SOB that can get on my nerves, but never the less he does do things the hard way! I can respect that he packs out his own animals, gets to his hunts buy foot not atv and he is one of the best shots I have seen with a long bow.

Originally Posted by steelhead22

Don't get me wrong, I'm neither a fan nor opponent of Tred Barta. I like his shows. I agree with A LOT of what he says and stands for. I disagree with some things as well.

Originally Posted by Pond

At least he has the gumption to air his hunting adventures whether he did the right thing or not. Some of his episodes end with him not taking a animal. Which is realistic in the hunting world, even losing one.

I've seen many people who claim to be ethical and law abiding do the same or worst.

ps: watching food plot white tail hunting is about as entertaining as watching a number 3 coyote trap in the desert.

Originally Posted by duck_crazy101

i like him but he does some dumb things but i did love watching him nail a mallard in mid air with a bow

I have mixed emotions about Tred but like watching his shows for the entertainment value. I like that he shows both the good and bad aspects of hunting but I didn't see the caribou show so can't speak to that. I also didn't see the mallard show but did see him stick a goose on one episode and a flushing pheasant on another - the Alaska Grizzly show was also pretty good. Anyway, no love here but also no hate.



"CL"

[willametteriveroutlaw]

Originally Posted by steelhead22

BTW- What are you boycotting WRO? No more watching the VS. station for you?...or is that "different"?

Elberlestock packs

3 rivers archery

Versus

To name a few..

I don't do videos btw, but my poor shot this year is already erased just beacuse I'm not proud of it and I don't want people to see it. If ol dipstick tred truly did thing the hardway, he'd hunt OTC public lands with out a guide. Instead he hunts private ranches, with a guide, and still manages to screw things up. I understand his theory on "the hard way" but what I see and much of the general public see's is some arrogant jack ass looking for another reason to brag about himself.

As for all of the feeder whitetail shows, its not my cup of tea either but thats not the subject.

[Drake5]

Did anyone see the episode where he took two shots at agroup of running turkeys at 50 plus yards?Not even picking a particular bird just shooting in to the flock.My 8 yr. old even spotted the lack of judgement on that one.

[Oregonhunter]

Originally Posted by Drake5

Did anyone see the episode where he took two shots at agroup of running turkeys at 50 plus yards?Not even picking a particular bird just shooting in to the flock.My 8 yr. old even spotted the lack of judgement on that one.

No but that does not suprise me at all. Those of us who dont care for him can look at it this way I suppose.....watch the show with our kids to show them what NOT do do when out in the field!

I just cant support someone who lacks any better judgment than what he does. But with that said to each his own and if you like his show than keep watching it but as for me I just dont care to watch it so I dont. Seems like a pretty simple solution.

oh

[jokester]

Originally Posted by CombinationLicense

I have mixed emotions about Tred but like watching his shows for the entertainment value. I like that he shows both the good and bad aspects of hunting but I didn't see the caribou show so can't speak to that. "CL"

I'm 50/50 too. He's definitely entertaining, but some of the things he does could easily be turned and used against us. I like that he shows good and bad, but when he's taking lobbing shots at moving caribou and running turkeys @ 40+ yards with a longbow, that's not very good judgement

-jokester

[ehunter]

I like this Tred better than the Ted Nugent who shoots his game in the reserve. There was a video a few years back where TED Nugent shot some goat on a Island at 90 yards and not a great shot. I honestly think the difference is TredB tries to be real. There are other shows that totaly edit those hunts out and we never see it. It happens and I like the fact he can laugh at him self. I think the Ted Nugent is more of pain in the you know where and I know that he does talk a good story on behalf of hunting and hunters but I get tired of the wack and stackem mentality too.

[Raining_Kings]

He is what he is. He has a big personality and I find him entertaining. I don't believe everything he says, but he is entertaining and I will continue to watch him and support his sponsers whether he's fishing or hunting. I like the fact that he gets tired, misses shots, takes bad shots, stumbles, and sometimes comes home without game. It's all part of the story.

I agree that most of those whitetail shows are pretty boring (except the ones with the hot chicks).

Some other shows that you'll will either Hate or Love that I've been enjoying are Jim Shockeys show, Arrow Affliction, Relentless Pursuit and Predator Quest.

[Dan360]

See, that is where I think Tred fails. He has the chance to edit and make hunting look good to the masses. Though he may show it "how it is", he also probably gives the anti's a few ideas.

Until I can be convinced otherwise, I'll be rooting for him to get his butt kicked by one of the big animals he shoots poorly with arrows that he knows wont fly straight.

I feel stronger about Tred than I do the Crocodile Hunter, and you all know how he ended up.

[Rank Amateur]

I think Tred falls too close to home for some, he tells it like it is and sometimes that bothers us, but it doesn't mean it isn't going on. If we can't defend that bad things happen, but we strive to do better, the game is over.

[steelhead22]

Originally Posted by Dan360

See, that is where I think Tred fails. He has the chance to edit and make hunting look good to the masses. Though he may show it "how it is", he also probably gives the anti's a few ideas.

Simply can't agree with this. There's ZERO need to edit ANYTHING that we do in order to "make hunting look good to the masses." I vote show the good AND the bad.

Once you start falling into that mentality, you're in trouble.

After being chastised by my neighbor while carrying in a limit of ducks into my apartment, I questioned this myself. I thought, "maybe I should put the ducks in a bag and then carry them up to my place." Then I realized, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. I wasn't about to make his problem, my problem.

BTW, and completely unrelatated to the subject at hand, this guy asked me if, "I had fun killing innocent animals?"...while he was standing at his BBQ cooking burgers!!!Classic "anti" hypocrisy.

[SouthSantiamSlayer]

The guy seems like a real JERK!
And I've seen two shows now where he shot an animal and never got it back.
I wouldn't bother airing that on t.v. if I were him. Yea it happens once and awhile, but don't make it a show.
The guys a bad tempered jerk to me.
Rather watch North to Alaska or Ted Nugent haha. Even though Ted is kinda a jerk too, I like him!

[Lucky one]

I hated barta at first. His arrogance really got to me, but now I think he's probably one of my favorites.

Also, editing out bad shots to please the masses is just lying. If we try to hide things its looks much worse.

[beardbuster]

Originally Posted by Drake5

Did anyone see the episode where he took two shots at agroup of running turkeys at 50 plus yards?Not even picking a particular bird just shooting in to the flock.

Personally, he drives me nuts. I saw this show and others as a matter of fact, I sure dont watch them for the entertainment value or to become a better hunter. The flock shot on the birds had me concerned, I have shot numerous turkeys with a bow and they way they were jumping had me thinking that a couple of them definitely got nicked. The vitals on a turkey with a bow are very precise - a flock shot is not going to do any good.

I have met Tred in person at the SHOT show and all I can remember was how much make up he was wearing (not camo). It is true that there are a lot of guys who have shows simply because they can afford them, and he's one of them. From a marketing aspect he's a winner with sponsors and this thread is a perfect example - people HATE him, and they watch the show to see just how ridiculous he is and the marketing impressions work sad to say.

I'm with Willametteriver on this one, in a day and age where we try so hard to uphold our hunting values (especially as archers) one man's attempt to prove he has what it takes to harvest any animal with a longbow (ethical or not) can destroy an entire states efforts in 30 minutes time.

The NRA fights hard everyday for our shooting rights and one crackhead with a gun robs a store and kills someone - society doesnt look at the individual they look at the weapon and one one who owns a BLACK weapon or handgun.

Anti hunters don't look at Tred as single sportsman, they look at him as a representative of the hunting traditions and environment. For me personally as a hunter this is sad to be placed in the same pool.

This is just my opinion on the matter

[willametteriveroutlaw]

Originally Posted by steelhead22

Simply can't agree with this. There's ZERO need to edit ANYTHING that we do in order to "make hunting look good to the masses." I vote show the good AND the bad.

Once you start falling into that mentality, you're in trouble.

After being chastised by my neighbor while carrying in a limit of ducks into my apartment, I questioned this myself. I thought, "maybe I should put the ducks in a bag and then carry them up to my place." Then I realized, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. I wasn't about to make his problem, my problem.

BTW, and completely unrelatated to the subject at hand, this guy asked me if, "I had fun killing innocent animals?"...while he was standing at his BBQ cooking burgers!!!Classic "anti" hypocrisy.

Remeber when measure 16 was up and they showed the unethical hound hunters, tugged on a few heart strings, and ended hound hunting in oregon. Now wait a few years and there is a possibly of Good ol tred ending up in the same kind of propaganda campaign to end archery hunting. Thats why we as sportsmen need to set an example to counter what bad propaganda can do. I would bet your same neighbor who gave you a wrath of crap could probably be won over without shoving your trophies in his face. You can walk around and flip off everyone you meet and no one will listen to you, or you can stay low key and quietly change there minds.

[reborn chrome]

i have no opinion but it is what it is
pick something important to fight about.............chad mather

[Basshound]

He bugs me. He's like Gilbert Gottfried mixed with a little bit "O" country. BARF...

[thefishslayer]

i honestly dont see the big deal bout him. He hunts hard, he doesnt just hunt one animal over and over again. He keeps you tuned in. And, i would much rather watch him miss than watch Bucks of Tecomate and shoot the big hand fed bucks. I say if you dont like him, dont watch him

[nakoa]

i agree with bait o eggs love him or hate him. but i one question for everyone, and that is how many of us( which i am) archery hunters with newer or tradtional bows have ever shot a goose out of the air in mid flite? yes the guy is a dipchit he bugs the chit out of me, but i do find myself watching him. and remeber guys he doe hold some world records with that same bow. and how many of you guys watched the show when he shot a grizzle bear @ 10', or the moose @ 5', and yes i watched the show where he flung arrows at the caribou, which he shot 2 with homemade arrows and flint broadheads, and the turky hunt that he flung arrows at( that i thought was some what funny), i myself have emptied a quiver of arrows many times at grouse, which my old hunting partner did laughing because the dam birds just sat there and let us shoot at them. also he holds several record for tuna fishing. so like bait o eggs and myself said you either love him or hate him. weather you hate him or not he does have passion for what he does.

[beardbuster]

Just found this. For those who are not familiar with the lifestyle of Tred here's a flavor. Unfortunately this does not showcase any of his hunting talents. He definitely lays down the "Barta Way"

http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...unt-53103.html

[deadelk]

I feel the need to watch his showes just to see what stuiped thing he will do next.

[Tvfowlhunter]

I think the guy is a riot to watch. Ladies and Gentleman in ways, he is no different from Ted Nugent.

[reborn chrome]

don't bash ted

[steelhead22]

Originally Posted by willametteriveroutlaw

Remeber when measure 16 was up and they showed the unethical hound hunters, tugged on a few heart strings, and ended hound hunting in oregon. Now wait a few years and there is a possibly of Good ol tred ending up in the same kind of propaganda campaign to end archery hunting. Thats why we as sportsmen need to set an example to counter what bad propaganda can do. I would bet your same neighbor who gave you a wrath of crap could probably be won over without shoving your trophies in his face. You can walk around and flip off everyone you meet and no one will listen to you, or you can stay low key and quietly change there minds.

I remember 16, and I understand where you're coming from. I simply don't feel like we need to HIDE what we do in order to validate it.

Was taking wildlife management out of the hands of wildlife managers a mistake...absolutely. But, if society as a whole felt that the use of hounds for hunting was cruel...then WAS it? Or, did the opposition to 16 not INFORM the public effectively enough so that they could make a better decision?

As for my neighbor, and this is totally off topic at this point, but, nobody was SHOVING anything.

I'm not going to strap a deer head to the hood of my car...but I'm not going to sneak around and try to get all covert when I do kill a deer, elk, duck or whatever.

I'm sorry, but once you start doing that, you are doing EXACTLY what the "anti's" want. You validate their point. You are officially ashamed, even if only slightly, by what you do...and that is totally unnecessary.

Is there any reason to FLAUNT our kills, no. But, there's no need to hide them either.

Furthermore....."QUIETLY change their minds"? Are you freakin' kidding me?

When you figure out how to QUIETLY get something done...let me know. It's not possible.

WRO- I'm with you on a lot of points, but I feel very bad for you that you think so low of our sport that you are advocating we HIDE it from the public, "stay low key" and "quietly" change minds.

We are in trouble.

[Beer Waggin]

Originally Posted by willametteriveroutlaw

What do you all think?

I personally think he is a disgrace to the hunting community and should stick to fishing. Whether is be Peeing in his waders on a seaduck hunt or his most current embarassment aired on versus this weekend. Where he wounded a 340 class 6 point with an arrow he stated didn't shoot well. Watching his hunting shows is slighly less painful than watching a Rosie Odonnel marathon and the image he protrays is not one we want to see protrayed as hunters. I am personally refusing to do business with any of his sponsors and encourage you all to do the same.

Why do you continue to watch his shows?? You mention a couple of different shows, so you must keep watching. I think you're a closet Barta lover...

He does more hunting shows because market research shows there are more hunters than there are salt water fisherman. Ever see him do a show dedicated to fresh water fishing? I know you've seen them all...

And no worries, he endorses very few things, so you won't need to limit your shopping... I bet you can't find three things he endorses that you would be in the market to buy.

I like Tred's show. He shows the realistic side of things and express' his opinion. Nothing wrong with that in my mind.

I didn't vote in your poll either. I didn't want to sway the results...

[Dan360]

Originally Posted by steelhead22

I remember 16, and I understand where you're coming from. I simply don't feel like we need to HIDE what we do in order to validate it.

Was taking wildlife management out of the hands of wildlife managers a mistake...absolutely. But, if society as a whole felt that the use of hounds for hunting was cruel...then WAS it? Or, did the opposition to 16 not INFORM the public effectively enough so that they could make a better decision?

As for my neighbor, and this is totally off topic at this point, but, nobody was SHOVING anything.

I'm not going to strap a deer head to the hood of my car...but I'm not going to sneak around and try to get all covert when I do kill a deer, elk, duck or whatever.

I'm sorry, but once you start doing that, you are doing EXACTLY what the "anti's" want. You validate their point. You are officially ashamed, even if only slightly, by what you do...and that is totally unnecessary.

Is there any reason to FLAUNT our kills, no. But, there's no need to hide them either.

Furthermore....."QUIETLY change their minds"? Are you freakin' kidding me?

When you figure out how to QUIETLY get something done...let me know. It's not possible.

WRO- I'm with you on a lot of points, but I feel very bad for you that you think so low of our sport that you are advocating we HIDE it from the public, "stay low key" and "quietly" change minds.

We are in trouble.

I understand totally what you are saying. I'm just saying that we should have good ambassadors for our sport, not some loudmouth yay-hoo who does things that I think most hunters would consider as extreme. I don't want to hide who I am and what I love. I also don't want to be associated with some of the stuff that I see Barta do on his shows. I don't want to eliminate kills from the screen or hide my harvest when I go home. I don't even make an attempt to hide my rifles and shotguns from the neighbors as I walk to my rig. I do think that tv personalities should do their best to portray our way of life in the best way possible. If I saw someone do some of the stuff that he's done on his shows, I'd be all over them. You probably would be too. If that's the case, why show the bad examples?

[sidewinder]

I really have not watched many of his shows so I have missed any questionable behavior. That guy is high strung for sure. If he fished with me I would probably kill him.(thats a joke for all the serious folks out there)
At times I look at hunting shows as a form of torture, but I am just jealous.