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12-11-2008, 01:46 PM
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Cutthroat
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Goldendoodles?
With all of the opinions out there on hunting dogs, I am sure I can get some feedback from someone on IFish about getting a goldendoodle to hunt with . . . Anyone ever hunt over one?
Similar to labradoodles - they have the mix of golden retriever and poodle - both hunting breeds. I have just never seen one in the field myself or heard of anyone hunting with one.
My wife is a big fan of them from the family side but I'm not sure I'm convinced that it would be a good hunting dog.
Thanks for your comments/suggestions!
DuckDad
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12-11-2008, 02:05 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: hillsbore
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I just can't resist,
I think hunting with a Goldendoodle would be like hunting a Golden with training wheels.
Just get a lab. perfect dog good hunter....
seriously I have not heard much on the Goldendoodle, Have heard some on the Labradoodle and they are fair hunters at best.
I am sure if you keep looking and asking you will find somone who has one that can hunt?
Problem is serious hunters/trainers just dont bother, so it is hard to know if its the breed or the lack of training exposure.
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12-11-2008, 02:33 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portland
Posts: 263
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by DuckDad
With all of the opinions out there on hunting dogs, I am sure I can get some feedback from someone on IFish about getting a goldendoodle to hunt with . . . Anyone ever hunt over one?
Similar to labradoodles - they have the mix of golden retriever and poodle - both hunting breeds. I have just never seen one in the field myself or heard of anyone hunting with one.
My wife is a big fan of them from the family side but I'm not sure I'm convinced that it would be a good hunting dog.
Thanks for your comments/suggestions!
DuckDad
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I have had several labs. I now have a 75 lb Labradoodle. He is the biggest chicken I have ever seen. He is also the best dog with kids I have ever seen. My 7 year old daughter loves him and takes him anywhere there might be monsters. The garage, upstairs, coat closet etc.. I think he would wet himself and run for ever if he heard a gun. 4th of July is not good. He is about 2 now and is a great dog. Would not hunt. Does not shed and is Hypoallergenic.
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12-11-2008, 02:41 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Washougal, WA
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Re: Goldendoodles?
If you want a mut, go to the pound and rescue one. No use supporting some puppy mill with your good hard cash.
Yeah, thats how I realy feel.
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"I'd have shot a bigger one, if he had shown himself first."
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12-11-2008, 02:51 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouve, WA
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Ask your wife if you can have your  back and just get a lab  no but really if it isn't broke don't fix it labs are a GREAT family dog and of course great hunters, I mean come on do you really want to ask your hunting buddy's if you can bring your Goldendoodle along? If my buddy's asked me that I would tell them to keep there doodle to them self.  O k I had to much fun with that hope you know it's all in good fun good luck.
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12-11-2008, 02:59 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Beaverton
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I have done quite a bit of research on the labradoodle line. They do Ok if you have the have a dog that is good with alergys. Many trainers who have tried working with the breed say the same thing as many people before who posted their opinion. Only if you have no other choice for hunting. Great family dog, but not as good as a lab. The ability to retrieve under under harsh conditions is tough to train into the breed. It is a new breed that was used to help people who needed a seeing eye dog that was alergic to dogs. Not bred as a hunting dog. I almost bought one because my daughter is alergic to dogs. I was able to get her tested in Lake O and they put her on some alergy medicine. This really helped. We now have a golden lab from "Hawaiian Time" here on IFISH. Great decision. I hope this helps.
Greg
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12-11-2008, 03:10 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: May 2005
Location: bg, wa
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Re: Goldendoodles?
side note, poodles were some of the first hunting retrievers around. their "puffs" on their paws were to act as insulation to keep their joints from locking up in cold water. my parents toy is just as much of a retriever as my black lab was. but shes getting old, she still jumps right into the pool and brings back toys. but thats also on 90 degree days!
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12-11-2008, 03:20 PM
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Cutthroat
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 20
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by DuckDad
With all of the opinions out there on hunting dogs, I am sure I can get some feedback from someone on IFish about getting a goldendoodle to hunt with . . . Anyone ever hunt over one?
Similar to labradoodles - they have the mix of golden retriever and poodle - both hunting breeds. I have just never seen one in the field myself or heard of anyone hunting with one.
My wife is a big fan of them from the family side but I'm not sure I'm convinced that it would be a good hunting dog.
Thanks for your comments/suggestions!
DuckDad
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If you get one don't let ogrejager's wife buy it a collar. Sorry couldn't help it.
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12-11-2008, 03:23 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portland
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by Chesapeake
If you want a mut, go to the pound and rescue one. No use supporting some puppy mill with your good hard cash.
Yeah, thats how I realy feel. 
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Nice comment. I got my Labradoodle from an experienced breeder in Canada and could not be happier with him. If I wanted a hunting dog I would have gotten a lab. Have fun picking the black lab hair out of your eggs.
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12-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouve, WA
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by 7066
Nice comment. I got my Labradoodle from an experienced breeder in Canada and could not be happier with him. If I wanted a hunting dog I would have gotten a lab. Have fun picking the black lab hair out of your eggs.
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Nice comment. I got my LAB from a experienced breeder in AMERICA (greatest country on the planet) and could not be happier with him. If I wanted a worthless house dog I would have gotten a Labradoodle. Have fun retrieving your ducks in 20ft deep water in 20 degree weither in December 
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Last edited by Linejerk; 12-11-2008 at 03:37 PM.
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12-11-2008, 03:31 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Washougal, WA
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by 7066
Nice comment. I got my Labradoodle from an experienced breeder in Canada and could not be happier with him. If I wanted a hunting dog I would have gotten a lab. Have fun picking the black lab hair out of your eggs.
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We'll maybe a little background is in order.
#1: My dogs live in thier house and I live in mine. No hair in eggs here.
#2: As my handle indicates I have Chesapeakes, not Labs.
I'm glad your happy with your dog. Thats great!
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"I'd have shot a bigger one, if he had shown himself first."
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12-11-2008, 03:40 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Beaverton
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Standard Poodles they say were quite the hunters back when. The poodles that I have seen at hunt tests were with very few exceptions, awful retrievers. Not much style and not a lot of water desire. Goldens will tolerate water but many do not desire it like the other duck dog breeds. Now you have someone come along and creates a designer breed call the goldendoodle. Suppose to be non-allergenic although a person ought to do some research on that before jumping on that bandwagon. From what I hear, they are good pets, with a few that may hunt. If you feel lucky and think you will get one with the instincts to hunt then go for it. But do not be surprised if you get a dog with not much desire to hunt, that will cost you twice as much as a quality retriever. HT
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12-11-2008, 05:04 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Washougal, WA
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I'm sorry if I came off a little harsh on my first post. I didnt realize we were now calling mutts "Designer breeds".
My neighbor just gave away 3 Chesagoldenlabs that resulted from my stud and her mutt getting together while both families were on vacation. (Note: be carefull who you have watch your dogs). Guess she should have slapped a $1K price tag on them and called them "Designer breeds". 
All in good fun. I'm laughing too hard!!
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"I'd have shot a bigger one, if he had shown himself first."
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12-11-2008, 05:14 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem / Pacific City
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Wow! So a person asks for information about a dog breed and the thread turns into a "my dog is better than your dog" argument.
I have no experience hunting over a doodle of any kind so I can't offer any personal experience. Maybe a few others that have actual experience can help DuckDad out with some real information.
Give the guy a break...
Orion
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12-11-2008, 05:23 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,085
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Re: Goldendoodles?
All the "doodles" are crossbred mutts and a poor excuse for a real hunting dog.
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12-11-2008, 06:09 PM
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Coho
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 58
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Hunting a Goldendoodle would be as cool as loading your dekes into a pink Mazda Miata and heading out to the check station. I hunt a chessie, he sheds everywhere, doesnt listen worth a darn, makes me sneeze, and pi**es in the boat but i wouldnt trade him for the world. And every trait he has good or bad is due to an action on my part not his. So just get what you want but why try to build a better mouse trap.
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12-11-2008, 06:47 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Hehe, looks like the "doodles" at taking a razzing here?!!
My 2 Cents sez I grew up with my family and 3 Standard Poodles, nothing fancy, just typical dogs of that breed from good Poodle bloodlines.
Sure we knew about the fact that they'd been used as hunters (somewhere, I guess France?) and that their various clips were designed to aid in keeping certain areas of their anatomy warm and the tail "Pom Pom" to aid in seeing their docked tail while hunting afield.
I can't IMAGINE one of our Poodles ever making it as even a basic hunting dog or retriever...  My thoughts on this are WHY drag down some already well established hunting breed with a Poodle?
Now for HUNTING I'm on my 4th Lab (all, except one, living very full lives) as well as four other Bird Dogs thrown in for good measure.
I'll always have a Lab FIRST!
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Last edited by billc_sbio; 12-11-2008 at 06:49 PM.
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12-12-2008, 04:44 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 666
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I've always been a Lab man, myself, but my dad's dad had something akin to what you asked about. Fact of the matter was, when they shot well, it fetched well. When they couldn't hit anything, it didn't matter.
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12-12-2008, 05:04 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Casting into the bucket
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I've been told by more than one breeder that if you buy a half breed you get a dog with half a brain/instincts. I know some here are very fond of mutts and I think that's great. I just believe that you are taking a much larger risk with a mix than proven pedigrees.
Mark
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12-14-2008, 11:20 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by 7066
Nice comment. ........ Have fun picking the black lab hair out of your eggs.
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At our house we ocassionally pick yellow, brown and black hair out of our eggs and everything else.  We consider it a privelage and wouldn't want it any other way!  
I think if you're only going to hunt a few times a year that your choice of family pet should have no bearing on whether it's a good hunter. Get what the family wants. If you're going to be an active waterfowler, you better get a lab.
I have 3 house hold labs. We love them all and they all participate in family functions and Dock Dogs. The yellow and black "Shy Shy and Huggy Bear" are my boys dogs and they don't care to hunt so their dogs don't. That weathered blockhead chocolate is Bucky and he's my swamp monster, river running feather busting hunter.
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12-14-2008, 12:27 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: Goldendoodles?
I would doubt seriously whether any of the doodle breeders are using actual hunting dogs in their dumb breeding programs and are simply in it for the money. Serious hunters buy serious hunting dogs, not mongrels. Tough to take breeders seriously who will sell their dogs to non-hunters....no matter what hunting breed is involved.
The only serious hunting breed with poodle in it is the Pudelpointer. The foundation dogs for this breed are the English Pointer and an old European Pudel not the poodle in today's designer doodle dogs. The Pudelpointer is a do it all versatile hunting dog.
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12-14-2008, 12:34 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Eugene, OR
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Re: Goldendoodles?
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Originally Posted by DogZilla15
All the "doodles" are crossbred mutts and a poor excuse for a real hunting dog.
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And you know this from hunting around them or being ignorant to dogs and dog breeding???
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12-14-2008, 12:49 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Clackamas River
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Re: Goldendoodles?
If you had some allergy issues to deal with, I wouldn't make fun of you.
However, getting one because the wife wants one is a different story.
A lab is a great family dog and a great hunter, which is why they're so popular here. So basically I'm saying go with the flow, stop rocking the boat, get with the program and get a lab. Your wife will love it and you won't regret it. Or get 2 dogs. One for you and one for her!
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12-14-2008, 01:02 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Clackamas River
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Re: Goldendoodles?
If you're serious about a Goldiedoodle, ask the breeder if they can take you hunting so you can see the parents perform. That should be interesting!
I'm not trying to be an ass, but there is no way you could find a doodle breeder that cares about breeding from hunting stock.
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12-14-2008, 04:15 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Drake:
A German Shepherd can be trained to fetch and so can a Goldendoodle. Hunting is a born in instinct to search for game not tennis balls.
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12-19-2008, 01:18 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Eugene, OR
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Re: Goldendoodles?
DOGZILLA
I'm assuming from what your saying is that dog has to hunting bredd to hunt? If so then why would this so called mutt me any differant then chessador? These dogs hunt as hard as any dog I've trained!And there has been a few.--tim
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12-19-2008, 04:34 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Re: Goldendoodles?
Drake:
No but it does increase the odds. Will a doodle hunt or just retrieve???
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12-19-2008, 04:38 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Antelope, Ore
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Re: Goldendoodles?
it's time for a Delmar Smith quote:
"You could probably find diamond's in Oklahoma but if your serious about finding diamonds, I'd look in South Africa"! The man is a genius!
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