Scoring question?

Imperial Bull · 11-12-2008, 04:10 PM

I am scoring a 5 by 6 roosevelt bull and was wonder if you count the H4 circumference measure on the six point side into the final net score. I have heard that there are no deductions on roosevelt's pasted the G4's, but was not sure if it counted for the circumference measurements. Thanks for any help you can give me.

Jeff

ommedia · 11-12-2008, 05:06 PM

If you have a 6x5, then essentially you have 4 points off of the mainbeam on the 5pt side...correct?! correct!

H1 is smallest circum. between G1 and G2
H2 is smallest circum. between G2 and G3
H3 is smallest circum. between G3 and G4
H4 is smallest circum. between G4 and G5 (here is your problem/question)

Regardless of roosevelt or rocky mountain (american) elk, you MUST take the H4 measurement.

If there is no G5, then you measure the distance (length) of the mainbeam from the middle starting point of the G4 to the tip. divide it in half, measure that far down the mainbeam from the tip (it's half way) and take your H4 (for that side only!) at that point.

Usually you have some major difference/deductions between the two H4 measurements (hence you get a deduction for not having symetry).

Example might be a Right H4 of 6 4/8" and a left of 4 2/8" (on the side that had no G5). Thus, you really only get 2X the smallest side and land up with 6 4/8 + 4 2/8 = 10 6/8 - (diff...2 2/8) = 8 4/8

If you have a 6x4, then the H3 and H4 are taken in the same exact spot.

This is also true on all deer. Must take 4 circumference measurements.

Great question, tricky/confusing answer...I might have to diagram it.

OM

3fletch · 11-12-2008, 05:36 PM

Ommedia: Your the man... Very well explained. There are so many people that get confused on that exact measurement. The other popular error is most people believe that they get a base measurement above the bur on elk.

ommedia · 11-13-2008, 08:33 AM

Exactly, I too used to tell people how big the bases were on an elk we killed. It is definitely one of the assumptions that gets made all the time, but it is a good indicator of the potential mass above.

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Originally Posted by 3fletch

Ommedia: Your the man... Very well explained. There are so many people that get confused on that exact measurement. The other popular error is most people believe that they get a base measurement above the bur on elk.

Imperial Bull · 11-13-2008, 09:28 AM

Thanks for the help. That clears it up for me.

Jeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by ommedia

If you have a 6x5, then essentially you have 4 points off of the mainbeam on the 5pt side...correct?! correct!

H1 is smallest circum. between G1 and G2
H2 is smallest circum. between G2 and G3
H3 is smallest circum. between G3 and G4
H4 is smallest circum. between G4 and G5 (here is your problem/question)

Regardless of roosevelt or rocky mountain (american) elk, you MUST take the H4 measurement.

If there is no G5, then you measure the distance (length) of the mainbeam from the middle starting point of the G4 to the tip. divide it in half, measure that far down the mainbeam from the tip (it's half way) and take your H4 (for that side only!) at that point.

Usually you have some major difference/deductions between the two H4 measurements (hence you get a deduction for not having symetry).

Example might be a Right H4 of 6 4/8" and a left of 4 2/8" (on the side that had no G5). Thus, you really only get 2X the smallest side and land up with 6 4/8 + 4 2/8 = 10 6/8 - (diff...2 2/8) = 8 4/8

If you have a 6x4, then the H3 and H4 are taken in the same exact spot.

This is also true on all deer. Must take 4 circumference measurements.

Great question, tricky/confusing answer...I might have to diagram it.

OM