Coho Quota

[Threemuch]

How long can this silver quota hold out?!? Anyone have any idea where we stand for the Humbug to cape falcon quota?

[Miss B Haven]

59% for South of Falcon (thru 7/27). Looks like it's good until the closure (Aug 24th) unless the catc hrates go up. They might if the Ocean is in better shape than it was earlier.

Link to Catch Stats:
http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/odfw/salmon/sofspt.html

[Abalone]

Can anyone explain why they close the area between Falcon Rk. and Tillamook head while
everthing else is open. Seems like a remote area that doesn't get as much pressure. I have fished
that area Three times this season and saw few boats. Maybe it's the river system it is associated with. Coho is closed Chinook is open in this area.

[seasquid]

I read it was to discourage Garibaldi and Columbia River charters from working areas outside their immediate quota territory -- if that makes any sense.

I used to fish that Cape Falcon north silver fishery back in the mid-90s -- a run to get there, but not bad coming back. Then, a couple years ago, they moved the zone to Tillamook Head because they didn't want "us" Garibaldi fishers to cheat and fish south of Cape Falcon in the fog where we couldn't be monitored.

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[Abalone]

I make the run from Nehalem bay. I like it up there, have the whole Ocean to myself.
Fish everywhere. Oops I am not suppose to say that !

[Chum King]

Abalone,

The ocean between Tillamook Head and Cape Falcon closes to all salmon angling (chinook and coho) beginning August 1. Prior to August 1 it has been open under the same rules for the rest of the North of Cape Falcon area. The regulations are available at Oregon Ocean Salmon Regs.

[finclipped]

That quota could go real quick if the Ocean lays down. It seems during the calm weeks, they are taking 15-20% (higher participation) of the quota and on nasty weeks, they are taking 5-10%. So with good ocean conditions and 40% remaining, it could be over in two weeks.

Of course catch ratio's has a lot to do with it, but most ports are fairly consistent.

[Abalone]

I will be waiten for them up on the Clackamas !

[Miss B Haven]

The REAL question is why they put Cannon Beach/Seaside at Tillamook head and put Tillamook by Cape Falcon. :whazzup: Just to confuse us all? [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img] :grin:

[Abalone]

I was confused ! Thank you !

Notes: Chinook harvest guideline of 12,700 for this area. Inseason management actions may be used to sustain season length
and keep harvest within the chinook total allowable catch for areas north of Cape Falcon. Conference call will be convened no later
than August 6 to discuss opening to 7 days per week (Effective July 25, fishery was opened to fishing 7 days per week).

[Marty]

I talked to the fish and game at Depoe and he said a little more than half the silvers have been caught, but regardless if the quota is caught or not, they will close it August 24.

Marty

[Silver Eagle]

Silver Eagle here - what it will depend on is if the checkers check and if the counters count. I think they will let it go just because there are a lot of fish and it equels a lot of money.....just my observation.

Its hard to sore like an Eagle when your surounded by vultures.

[Lepper]

all I want is flat seas......

oh wind GO AWAY!!!
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[Born to be Wild]

Silver Eagle here - what it will depend on is if the checkers check and if the counters count. I think they will let it go just because there are a lot of fish and it equels a lot of money.....just my observation.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Well, I've known a lot of fish sampler's and biologist over the years but haven't known any that would match that description.

Two factors to consider also are:

1. The hatchery coho out in the ocean we are catching are mostly Columbia River hatchery coho stocks and they are migrating north to enter the Columbia and its tribs. That leaves the wild fish behind that are going to enter the coastal rivers at a later date. Therefore the wild to hatchery ratio is most likely to go up and there are less hatchery fish available the further south you go.

2. Another factor is participation that finclipped touched on. Some folks might anticipate the season drawing near and really get after them. However as the coho migrate north a lot of folks might decide to chase them up there at the Bouy 10 fishery instead.

So it’s really an unknown and pretty darn near impossible to figure out. I’ll be able to tell you August 24th. :grin:

I talked to the fish and game at Depoe and he said a little more than half the silvers have been caught, but regardless if the quota is caught or not, they will close it August 24.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Yea that’s true Marty. Unlike halibut where at certain times during the season they will give you extra days for unused quota, coho is the quota or season ending date whichever comes first. (June 21 through earlier of August 24 or coho quota).

I’m not sure of the reason for that, but would suspect it might have to do with the incidental interception and mortality of wild coho (and there already has been plenty of that).

There appears to be a lot more wild coho out there than anticipated this year which is a good thing. 65,767 coho* have already been released as of July 27th

* Number of coho released includes fish released for any number of reasons including: no legal adipose fin clip, sub-legal or small fish, and anglers targeting chinook.

Dano

[ 07-31-2003, 05:37 AM: Message edited by: DepoeBayDan ]