I heard two interesting things on my cougar hunt yesterday

[jnicholson]

The first thing ...

I stopped off at an elk camp I visit every year and a couple of the guys say they saw a wolf in the road off of Pepper Creek. No pictures unfortunately. The wolf stood there stairing at them in the truck and after a while it loped on of down the road. I believe these guys know what a wolf looks like.

The second thing ...

I'm hunkered down and the fox pro is set in kitten in distress. There is a slight breeze and I hear a branch pop up above me on the cliff. Sounds like an elk but you never know. A few more minutes pass and there's some more popping and then a 200 foot plus tree falls down in my general direction. It was still several hundred yards up the cliff but the rain of leaves and noise was pretty adreniline raising.

Nope no cougars. I did find someones camo shirt they apparantly forgot and left by the stream side to wash. My size too. Thanks.

John

[Twitchs_Tackle]

Originally Posted by jnicholson

The first thing ...



Nope no cougars. I did find someones camo shirt they apparantly forgot and left by the stream side to wash. My size too. Thanks.

John

Not sure, but if the person 'forgets' things like me, you DON'T want anything to do with that shirt. Same goes for sweatshirt hoods, sleeves, and the tops off of long socks.

Don't ask....

[osulogger]

Originally Posted by jnicholson

Nope no cougars. I did find someones camo shirt they apparantly forgot and left by the stream side to wash. My size too. Thanks.
John

Originally Posted by Twitchs_Tackle

Not sure, but if the person 'forgets' things like me, you DON'T want anything to do with that shirt. Same goes for sweatshirt hoods, sleeves, and the tops off of long socks.

Don't ask....

Now that is funny!!

I don't know how many white t-shirts and hickories I have at home with one sleeve.

From the land of Big Sticks,

Osulogger

[Grantspastor]

Originally Posted by Twitchs_Tackle

Not sure, but if the person 'forgets' things like me, you DON'T want anything to do with that shirt. Same goes for sweatshirt hoods, sleeves, and the tops off of long socks.

Don't ask....

It took me a minute...but now I'm laughing

[Bait O' Eggs]

In the area I was elk hunting, the story was going around where a lady and her 17 year old son were walking a trail elk hunting and a momma and twin cub cougars kept charging them and making quite a ruckus,. They would charge into 30 yard then back off. Story was they never had a clean shot,

.....not sure I would have needed a clean shot, once I assessed cougars were messing me like that.

[The Overfishin Condition]

I agree BOE. The first time I see a cougar where I can put crosshairs on it or reasonably close to it, there will be much shooting.

As to the original post. I was in the woods once when a tree fell pretty close! Scared the doo-hicky outta me! TOC.

Originally Posted by Bait O' Eggs

In the area I was elk hunting, the story was going around where a lady and her 17 year old son were walking a trail elk hunting and a momma and twin cub cougars kept charging them and making quite a ruckus,. They would charge into 30 yard then back off. Story was they never had a clean shot,

.....not sure I would have needed a clean shot, once I assessed cougars were messing me like that.

[jnicholson]

The shirts OK, it passed the sniff test. Nobody used it to clean their Butt Out tool.

Bucky

[mr_bones4]

Originally Posted by jnicholson

I did find someones camo shirt they apparantly forgot and left by the stream side to wash. My size too. Thanks.

John

I bet it was a shirt from a poacher!

Just wanted maintain the standard iFish response for all things unknown.

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by mr_bones4

I bet it was a shirt from a poacher!

Just wanted maintain the standard iFish response for all things unknown.

Ha!

[motcha]

Must have been one heck of a camo shirt, for someone to set it down and lose it!! LOL Too bad it wasnt a camo rifle.......

[Bucolic buffalo]

You must have been messing with Sasquatch and he chucked the tree down at you.

[salmonfisher77]

We should probably start a poacher thread, a snagging thread and while were at it lets trow in a couple Gillnetter Threads!

Originally Posted by mr_bones4

I bet it was a shirt from a poacher!

Just wanted maintain the standard iFish response for all things unknown.

[junkyardjeff]

Originally Posted by Twitchs_Tackle

Not sure, but if the person 'forgets' things like me, you DON'T want anything to do with that shirt. Same goes for sweatshirt hoods, sleeves, and the tops off of long socks.

Don't ask....

Eric- Perfectly said and I will now pick myself up off of the floor! I saw a shirt ripped earlier this deer season for I think the same thing....

JYJ

[Maddie'sDaddy]

Originally Posted by Twitchs_Tackle

Not sure, but if the person 'forgets' things like me, you DON'T want anything to do with that shirt. Same goes for sweatshirt hoods, sleeves, and the tops off of long socks.

Don't ask....

Yepper, go into the woods with a full shirt and come out looking like Joe Dirt with his half shirt, been there done that too



MD

[CombinationLicense]

Originally Posted by jnicholson

The first thing ...

I stopped off at an elk camp I visit every year and a couple of the guys say they saw a wolf in the road off of Pepper Creek. No pictures unfortunately. The wolf stood there staring at them in the truck and after a while it loped on of down the road. I believe these guys know what a wolf looks like.

I'm curious if you might share what unit that was in? I heard a similar report last year in the Starkey unit near the watershed lake.

"CL"

[No Fences]

Originally Posted by CombinationLicense

I'm curious if you might share what unit that was in? I heard a similar report last year in the Starkey unit near the watershed lake.

"CL"

CL, I think he's up near Mt. St. Helens. One of our camp did in fact see a wolf in the Ochocco's last week at 60 yds.

[BornToFish360]

Originally Posted by Bait O' Eggs

In the area I was elk hunting, the story was going around where a lady and her 17 year old son were walking a trail elk hunting and a momma and twin cub cougars kept charging them and making quite a ruckus,. They would charge into 30 yard then back off. Story was they never had a clean shot,

.....not sure I would have needed a clean shot, once I assessed cougars were messing me like that.

Thought you couldnt shoot cougars with cubs, or is washington different

Btf360

[micah]

The shirt wasn't missing a sleeve was it?

[Duckwheat]

Are you sure it was not laundry left out to dry on that big old long barreled shotgun you saved up for?

DW

[wheresmybobber!]

So.....if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around does it make a sound?

Couldn't resist.

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by CombinationLicense

I'm curious if you might share what unit that was in? I heard a similar report last year in the Starkey unit near the watershed lake.

"CL"

in Skamania County

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by wheresmybobber!

So.....if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around does it make a sound?

Couldn't resist.

Funny, that's the second thing that came to my mind sitting there.

[The Overfishin Condition]

Are you hunting modern elk somewhere up by the mountain? TOC.

Originally Posted by jnicholson

in Skamania County

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by The Overfishin Condition

Are you hunting modern elk somewhere up by the mountain? TOC.

No I'm cougar hunting, I hunt elk with a bow. Why do you ask? It wouldn't be lawful to use electroniic calls if I was elk hunting.

John

[The Overfishin Condition]

i was trying to trap you into confessing. Just kidding. I thought I remember you telling a story about a rifle hunt up by the mountain last year, but I think now I remember it was quackawacker or somebody else. Just curious! Back to the regularly scheduled program. TOC.

Originally Posted by jnicholson

No I'm cougar hunting, I hunt elk with a bow. Why do you ask? It wouldn't be lawful to use electroniic calls if I was elk hunting.

John

[Rank Amateur]

Hey, John, you are doing it all wrong. You are traveling away from people, you need to stay close to people. Why do I say this, a co-worker today reported that his hunting partner was meeting him at the Sunset rest area for a hunt, he's sitting there waiting in the pickup when he hears a noise and looks to see a cougar leaving a trash can. I guess the kid coming out of the restroom got a real eye full as he and the cougar met. The hunter had a tag, but thought shooting one in the state rest area might be frowned on. Didn't sound like a real big cougar, must be having a hard time finding a deer too.

Of coarse I'm assuming that all involved know what a cougar is!

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

Hey, John, you are doing it all wrong. You are traveling away from people, you need to stay close to people. Why do I say this, a co-worker today reported that his hunting partner was meeting him at the Sunset rest area for a hunt, he's sitting there waiting in the pickup when he hears a noise and looks to see a cougar leaving a trash can. I guess the kid coming out of the restroom got a real eye full as he and the cougar met. The hunter had a tag, but thought shooting one in the state rest area might be frowned on. Didn't sound like a real big cougar, must be having a hard time finding a deer too.

Of coarse I'm assuming that all involved know what a cougar is!

Incredible, after everything I go through to call a cougar I continue to read stories like this.

[jnicholson]

Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

Hey, John, you are doing it all wrong. You are traveling away from people, you need to stay close to people. Why do I say this, a co-worker today reported that his hunting partner was meeting him at the Sunset rest area for a hunt, he's sitting there waiting in the pickup when he hears a noise and looks to see a cougar leaving a trash can. I guess the kid coming out of the restroom got a real eye full as he and the cougar met. The hunter had a tag, but thought shooting one in the state rest area might be frowned on. Didn't sound like a real big cougar, must be having a hard time finding a deer too.

Of coarse I'm assuming that all involved know what a cougar is!

This one? I don't have an Oregon tag but maybe another hunter wants to check it out?

I am interested in following up any Washington sightings.

Sunset Safety Rest Area


Locale in Clatsop County, Oregon, USA.
Latitude: 45.79611 : Longitude: -123.45806

[Rank Amateur]

That would be the spot! I have a tag, but just don't have the time, darn work!

[jnicholson]

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Mountain lion incident in Madera Canyon offers lessons for public

Animal killed in popular recreation area after aggressively stalking hiker

TUCSON, ARIZONA - An unusual-acting mountain lion that had been stalking a hiker and his dog on Saturday in Madera Canyon in the Santa Rita Mountains was located and killed by the Arizona Game and Fish Department on Sunday, Oct. 26.

"This strange-acting mountain lion posed a clear public safety threat," said Leonard Ordway, the Tucson regional supervisor for the Game and Fish Department.

The mountain lion not only stalked the hiker and his dog, but it continued to act aggressively toward the hiker even when the person tried to scare it away.

Ordway said that the hiker did the things he was supposed to - he shouted and tried to make himself look bigger by waving his arms, he picked his dog up off the ground, but the mountain lion continued to approach. The hiker then used his pistol to fire two warning shots, and the mountain lion continued to approach, at which time the hiker shot directly at the lion and the animal finally ran away.

Because of the animal's aggressive actions toward a human, and in accordance with the department's lion-human interaction management protocol that was developed in 2004 through extensive public process, immediate action was required to prevent any further public incident involving this animal.

Wildlife officials said the mountain lion was sent to a laboratory for examination and tests in an effort to find clues that might explain its abnormal behavior, but it will be several days before results are available.

"This is very strange behavior for a wild animal," said Ordway, who offered these safety tips for anyone who encounters a mountain lion or other large predator:

* Do not hike, jog or ride your bicycle alone in mountain lion country: Go in groups, with adults supervising children.

* Keep children close to you. Observations of captured wild mountain lions reveal that the animals seem especially drawn to children. Keep children in your sight at all times.

* Do not approach a mountain lion. Most mountain lions will try to avoid a confrontation. Give them a way to escape.

* Do not run from a mountain lion. Running may stimulate a mountain lion's instinct to chase. Instead, stand and face the animal. Make eye contact. If there are small children there, pick them up if possible so they don't panic and run. Although it may be awkward, pick them up without bending over or turning away from the mountain lion.

* Do not crouch or bend over: A person squatting or bending over looks a lot like a four-legged prey animal. When in mountain lion country, avoid squatting, crouching or bending over, even when picking up children.

* Appear larger: Raise your arms. Open your jacket if you are wearing one. Again, pick up small children. Throw stones, branches, or whatever you can reach without crouching or turning your back. Wave your arms slowly and speak firmly in a loud voice. The idea is to convince the mountain lion that you are not prey and that you may be a danger to it.

* Fight back if attacked: Many potential victims have fought back successfully with rocks, sticks, caps, jackets, garden tools and their bare hands. Since a mountain lion usually tries to bite the head or neck, try to remain standing and face the attacking animal.

Ordway also offered these tips for living in mountain lion country:

* Don't feed wildlife. By feeding deer, javelina or other wildlife in your yard, you may inadvertently attract mountain lions, which prey upon them.

* Deer and rabbit proof your landscape. Avoid using plants that deer prefer to eat; if landscaping attracts deer, mountain lions may be close by.

* Landscape for safety: Remove dense and/or low-lying vegetation that provides good hiding places for mountain lions and coyotes, especially around children's play areas. Make it difficult for wild predators to approach a yard unseen.

* Closely supervise children. Keep a close watch on children whenever they play outdoors. Make sure children are inside before dusk and not outside before dawn. Talk with children about mountain lions and teach them what to do if they encounter one.

* Install outdoor lighting. Keep the house perimeter well lit at night - especially along walkways - to keep any approaching mountain lions visible.

* Keep pets secure. Roaming pets are easy prey for hungry mountain lions and coyotes. Either bring pets inside or keep them in a kennel with a secure top. Don't feed pets outside - this can attract javelina, skunks and other mountain lion prey.

Mountain lions in Arizona are classified as a big game species and the department manages them as a renewable natural resource. Since 2000, the department has distributed an average of 8,100 hunting permits per year with an average annual harvest of 321 lions. Arizona's mountain lion population is estimated at around 2,500 to 3,000 animals. Mountain lions are efficient predators capable of killing or seriously injuring humans, although attacks rarely occur. The department is committed to public education to help people learn how to behave responsibly and live safely in proximity to lions.

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