Week 8 NCAA Football Standings

[jokester]

No surprise who's #1 after watching the game the other night I kept saying we'll see if Missouri's made of anything after the Texas game. Apparently, they're not as good as I thought they were, cause Mr. McCoy and the Texas freight train took 'em to the woodshed!

On a side note, SC's climbing back up the ladder.

AP Top 25
1 Texas
2 Alabama
3 Penn State
4 Oklahoma
5 Florida
6 Southern California
7 Oklahoma State
8 Texas Tech
9 Georgia
10 Ohio State
11 LSU
12 Utah
13 Boise State
14 South Florida
15 TCU
16 Missouri
17 Pittsburgh
18 Brigham Young
19 Kansas
20 Ball State
21 Georgia Tech
22 Tulsa
23 Boston College
24 Florida State
25 Minnesota

-jokester

[BarroomHero]

BALL STATE!?!? my god...what is this world coming to?

[butwhymalemodels]

Any week LSU isn't in the top ten is a good week for me!


Actually, I'm pumped to see my Horned Frogs back in the top 25. Now hopefully we can stay there.

[Twitchs_Tackle]

Originally Posted by BarroomHero

BALL STATE!?!? my god...what is this world coming to?

Letterman is lovin' it

[jmg]

How can 2 teams (USC, Florida) who lost games to un ranked opponents be ranked as high as they are?? Still baffles me.

[husker]

Originally Posted by jmg

How can 2 teams (USC, Florida) who lost games to un ranked opponents be ranked as high as they are?? Still baffles me.

Preconceived ideas. I don't see the Fla loss, as being as bad as, the USC loss. However, had OSU beat Utah, instead of giving up the ship late that
might have changed my perception of the loss.

USC has as good of a chance as any to run the table and sneak in there
because of there national mystique.

Front runners right now for BCS title game are certainly UT, PSU, & Bama.

I do expect Bama to lose at least once in the SEC. I dont really see OSU beating PSU, so I think PSU has the easiest path to Miami.

Both the Big 10 and Pac 10 need to have a title game. The playing field is uneven with the other big conferences having the title game to play.

[Tacklebuster]

Originally Posted by husker

Preconceived ideas. I don't see the Fla loss, as being as bad as, the USC loss. However, had OSU beat Utah, instead of giving up the ship late that
might have changed my perception of the loss.

USC has as good of a chance as any to run the table and sneak in there
because of there national mystique.

Front runners right now for BCS title game are certainly UT, PSU, & Bama.

I do expect Bama to lose at least once in the SEC. I dont really see OSU beating PSU, so I think PSU has the easiest path to Miami.

Both the Big 10 and Pac 10 need to have a title game. The playing field is uneven with the other big conferences having the title game to play.

Totally agree... Bama aint gonna run the table in the SEC. PSU has the easiest path to Miami, they just gotta get past Ohio State which I think they will walk right through them.

USC, Florida and Oklahoma should not be where they are in the rankings. Especially Florida and USC both loosing to unranked opposition.

[backlash442]

Who do you think the professionals (Vegas Odds Makers) would pick in a head to head match up between any of the unbeaten teams and USC? Who would you take on a neutral field? I bet USC would even be favored over UF and OU. I think they'd even be favored over PSU. You may not think much of the odds makers but they do it for a living and aren't coaches and writers who never watch a team play.

AS for the loss to OS at OS. It's not as bad as UF's loss to Ole Miss at home. Don't forget OS has won something like 19 games in 2 years. Ole Miss. has won around 19 games in 4 years.

[husker]

Originally Posted by backlash442

Who do you think the professionals (Vegas Odds Makers) would pick in a head to head match up between any of the unbeaten teams and USC? Who would you take on a neutral field? I bet USC would even be favored over UF and OU. I think they'd even be favored over PSU. You may not think much of the odds makers but they do it for a living and aren't coaches and writers who never watch a team play.

AS for the loss to OS at OS. It's not as bad as UF's loss to Ole Miss at home. Don't forget OS has won something like 19 games in 2 years. Ole Miss. has won around 19 games in 4 years.

Unfortunately college football is nothing more then a beauty contest. No real way to decide on the field what happens. USC's loss to a middle of the road Pac-10 team is not going to better then a loss to a middle of the road SEC team. Thats just the facts.

USC has national perception as its saving grace. USC has proven to be really good in January but lacks focus in the PAC 10 season. In the last few years it has cost them. In this years perception of the weak 10, ie the PAC 10. the OSU loss hurts. When the computers start getting there say OSU had better win a bunch more games or even if you and I see USC as the top dawg, see you in the gag ROSE bowl. Unless, the OSU beats PSU.

Its all a beauty contest.

[rimrock]

The first BCS ranking has Florida at #10 if that makes ya'll feel better about the BCS.

[Chromaflage]

My under rated dark horse has to be Boise State. I wish they had a little stronger schedule than they do. I think the only game they have left that will give them a challenge is <<cough, cough>> San Jose St. Other than their narrow victory over Oregon, they are handily winning all other games...they should take the WAC without a problem. I'd like to see how they'd do against Penn St. or USC.

[cimfl]

I too don't agree with USC's ranking as high as it is, even though they could probably beat Texas. I think if you lose, you should plummet out of the top 10. And Husker, what do you mean by saying Oregon State is a middle of the PAC 10 team? They only have one conference loss, and it probably will be their only one. They will be going to the Rose Bowl! I don't see anyone else that can beat them.

[husker]

Originally Posted by cimfl

I too don't agree with USC's ranking as high as it is, even though they could probably beat Texas. I think if you lose, you should plummet out of the top 10. And Husker, what do you mean by saying Oregon State is a middle of the PAC 10 team? They only have one conference loss, and it probably will be their only one. They will be going to the Rose Bowl! I don't see anyone else that can beat them.

well i am sure there are some duck fans who disagree.....but arizona and cal, should be able to hang with them also

[cimfl]

Yeah, Husker, I agree, there is plenty of competition in the PAC-10, but its fun to stir the pot now and again! GO BEAVERS!

[Tacklebuster]

Originally Posted by backlash442

Who do you think the professionals (Vegas Odds Makers) would pick in a head to head match up between any of the unbeaten teams and USC? Who would you take on a neutral field? I bet USC would even be favored over UF and OU. I think they'd even be favored over PSU. You may not think much of the odds makers but they do it for a living and aren't coaches and writers who never watch a team play.

AS for the loss to OS at OS. It's not as bad as UF's loss to Ole Miss at home. Don't forget OS has won something like 19 games in 2 years. Ole Miss. has won around 19 games in 4 years.

USC reminds me of Notre Dame...... Publicity and money. Football is about Football, not Vegas Odds Makers. Any team can beat anybody on any field, that is what makes College football. USC lost to an unranked team. They should not be where they are at in the rankings period. I could care a less how good they became after the loss.

[SaltyChick]

Prediction: GA beats Bama in the SEC championship game!



By the way, GA is #7 is the BCS.

[rimrock]

Since when has on the field settled anything??? This is another reason why a playoff system would NOT solve much. People will still stay so and so is better, regardless of losing on the field. An example: The last couple civil war games have been won by the Beavs and the Beavs also have the most wins in the Pac10 over the last couple season than any other team in the conference. After both civil war games the majority of Duck fans still professed they had the better team. Yep, even though they just lost. So be it polls or on the field there will always be controversy, part of what makes college football interesting in the end anyway.

[Herring Problem]

My Beavers could wopem all !

[Tacklebuster]

Originally Posted by SaltyChick

Prediction: GA beats Bama in the SEC championship game!



By the way, GA is #7 is the BCS.

No way UGA is gonna whoop the Tide for the SEC Championship.
Or at least I hope they don't

I bet they leave their black uniforms at home this time

Ok here is my pick....
Penn State looses to Ohio State
Boise State runs the table and slides into a much deserving BCS game (I fell sorry for the coach on the other side)
Utah falls to BYU
and my fav.....

Alabama plays 60 minutes of football instead of just the first half and whoops Texas in Miami

[spottedhawk36]

What!!!!!! No mighty beavers or ducks in the top 25? we got robbed.

[butwhymalemodels]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

Ok here is my pick....
Penn State looses to Ohio State
Boise State runs the table and slides into a much deserving BCS game (I fell sorry for the coach on the other side)
Utah falls to BYU

Utah vs. BYU won't matter after November 6.

[SaltyChick]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

I bet they leave their black uniforms at home this time

Yeah . . . . going to our own funeral kinda sucked!

It will be a much different game this next time! Hide and watch!

[backlash442]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

USC reminds me of Notre Dame...... Publicity and money. Football is about Football, not Vegas Odds Makers. Any team can beat anybody on any field, that is what makes College football. USC lost to an unranked team. They should not be where they are at in the rankings period. I could care a less how good they became after the loss.

Yeah right just shows your ignorance. You probably think all the kids that go there are nothing but spoiled rich kids too. Vegas odds makers are in the biz of making money and they don't have our petty team loyalties to deal with. It's all black and white with them.

At least USC wins big games unlike ND. Don't forget UF LOST to an unranked team at home and is ranked 4th in either coaches poll or AP. So don't tell me how USC doesn't deserved to be ranked.

About the only thing I'd agree with you is football is football (kind of stating the obvious though) and the game needs to be played. It's about who wants it more on that day. Talent alone will never win a game but WSU is one of those exceptions where talent alone can beat them.

If you look at the USA poll it has USC ranked with a tougher SOS schedule than the teams a head of it as calculated by their computer. Go figure.

If you want a playoff system the best thing in the world is to have controversy. Plenty here lol.

[backlash442]

This blog says it all.

Posted by ESPN.com's Ted Miller
Washington is the only winless BCS conference team and has become a national punchline. Coach Tyrone Willingham is about as fired as a coach can be while still coaching his team.
But I wonder where the Huskies would be if they started the season playing Eastern Washington -- a rivalry game, right! -- Nevada, SMU and Massachusetts.
Actually I don't wonder.
The Huskies would have started 4-0, just like the team that actually had that schedule, No. 8 Texas Tech.
Instead, the Huskies have played a schedule ranked as the nation's toughest by the Sagarin Ratings. Instead of I-AA foes, they played BYU and Oklahoma and have Notre Dame coming to town Saturday.
Scheduling matters.
And it's become clear that teams are not penalized for scheduling weak opponents in order to pad their record, nor do teams -- or conferences -- get credit for ambitious scheduling.
Texas Tech looks good on paper. The Red Raiders welcomed back 19 starters from a team that finished 9-4 in 2007, including one of the nation's premier pass-catch combinations in Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree.
But the fact is we really have no idea if they are one of the nation's top-10 teams because they have yet to play a team presently sniffing the national rankings. Fair to say their best opponent thus far is 4-3 Nebraska, which extended the homestanding Red Raiders to overtime.
Texas Tech's schedule is ranked 103rd toughest in the nation by the Sagarin Ratings. That terrible slate distracts from No. 6 Oklahoma State, which has played a schedule ranked 87th in the nation.
Six Big 12 teams play schedules ranked 50 or worse. Nebraska's 19th-ranked schedule is the toughest in the conference.
The Pac-10 features schedules ranked 1, 4, 6, 8, 10 and 13. Only two are ranked 50 or worse.
Two SEC teams have played schedules ranked in the top-20, while six are ranked 50 or worse.
But this isn't to pick on teams that schedule pansies or to question the orthodoxy of Big 12 and SEC dominance.
In fact, I'm waving a white flag over my obsession with nonconference scheduling.
Sure, big nonconference games are the most exciting thing in college football -- think Texas-Ohio State or USC-Ohio State or USC-Auburn -- but making the game fun for fans isn't what this business is about.
It's about one thing: Reducing the risk of losing as much as possible and then hoping a couple of good conference victories will be enough to fool, er, win over poll voters.
Therefore, the Pac-10 needs to stop: 1. scheduling tough nonconference opponents; and, 2. it absolutely shouldn't play nonconference games on the road.
The Pac-10 should adopt the philosophy of many teams presently ranked in the top-25: If you're good, we won't play you because you might beat us. And if you pass the badness test, you've got to come to our house.
(USC should continue to schedule all-comers with the guts to play because no team outside of the Pac-10 can beat USC. Or at least one hasn't in the regular season since September of 2002).
For the other nine teams, it's not worth it.
Arizona figured this out. With a schedule ranked 96th in the nation, the Wildcats are 5-2 and feeling pretty good about themselves. Would Wildcats fans be talking about bowl possibilities, however, if their team had played BYU and Oklahoma instead of Idaho and Toledo?
How many times have you heard or read that USC lost to a "mediocre" Oregon State squad?
If Oregon State, winners of four consecutive bowl games and 19 games the previous two seasons, had played Texas Tech's schedule, the Beavers would be unbeaten, too.
Without changing any players or coaches they'd transform from "mediocre" to a ranked team.
Instead, they played at No. 3 Penn State and at No. 11 Utah and went 0-2 and became mediocre, even though no other team in the nation has played two top-11 foes on the road.
It's not worth it.
So call this an admission of defeat.
The Pac-10 philosophy has been wrong.
No more Georgias or Penn States or TCUs or Oklahomas or Boise States.
Bring on the MAC or Conference USA or the directional schools.
That's how a team -- and a conference -- gains national esteem.

[Tacklebuster]

Originally Posted by backlash442

Yeah right just shows your ignorance. You probably think all the kids that go there are nothing but spoiled rich kids too. Vegas odds makers are in the biz of making money and they don't have our petty team loyalties to deal with. It's all black and white with them.

At least USC wins big games unlike ND. Don't forget UF LOST to an unranked team at home and is ranked 4th in either coaches poll or AP. So don't tell me how USC doesn't deserved to be ranked.

About the only thing I'd agree with you is football is football (kind of stating the obvious though) and the game needs to be played. It's about who wants it more on that day. Talent alone will never win a game but WSU is one of those exceptions where talent alone can beat them.

If you look at the USA poll it has USC ranked with a tougher SOS schedule than the teams a head of it as calculated by their computer. Go figure.

If you want a playoff system the best thing in the world is to have controversy. Plenty here lol.

Yeah... your right. I am ignorant.... Just a dumb ole country boy up here trying to make a living with the rest of you big city folk. I never said USC was full of rich kids..... most kids that play football (whether at USC or anywhere else) come from low to middle class families and if it wasn't for the full ride, they probably wouldn't be going to school at all. I could care a less about your opinions of college ball or anything else for that matter. My threshold is getting a bit small for your insults though. Call me ignorant or any of your other little arrogant things you like to throw on my posts again and you gonna get my full attention. It's college football bro, nothing personnal. Just cause I don't like USC or 90 percent of the Pac 10 teams doesn't mean we gotta get ugly. You start throwing your comments in about stating the obvious and how ignorant a person is, that could lead down a road you don't want to be on. Even if you do live in Cali....


Salty Chick,
It's nice to see another SEC fan aboard, even if you do root for the wrong team. My little sis went to UGA and even though I love her to death, I just couldn't cheat on the Tide going between the hedges.

[husker]

Interesting scheduling to say the least. This philosophy came from Bill Synder at KSU when they were the doormat of college football. Bill's idea was to gain as much confidence as possible beating lower tier teams. Build some momentem heading into the B12 schedule. It worked pretty well for him.

OSU seems to always get better as the year goes on. That seems to be coaching or a weak Pac 10. However coaching is what I lean towards since they have continualy improved from start to finish.

I make no excuses for TT schedule this year or any year. I am not a fan of the BS plan.

Neb was 1 of the schools that lost recently to USC. The interesting thing about that was, when we scheduled the game we were on top of the world and USC was a poster child. No one can say how good a team will be if you schedule games for 10 years down the road.

Heres the non conference schedule for Neb for the next 8 or so years.

09 - 3 wins and VT on the road
10 - 3 wins and UW on the road
11 - 2 wins and UW and Frenso St @ home
12 - 2 wins and So Miss @ Home; UCLA on the road
13 - 2 wins and @ SMiss; UCLA @ home
14 - @ Fresno
15 -Smiss @ home
16 - Frenso and Tenn @ home
17 - @ UT

Theres the Huskers schedule for then next 10 years.....our philosophy has been to play 2 gimme games, 1 mid level game and 1 tough game. We always try and get more teams to come to Lincoln, then visit there house for money concerns. Memorial Stadium holds 85,000 and we arent going to visit places like Corvalis without a 2/1 deal. Big schools like UT/Ucla will do a home and home. We want a minimum of 7 homes game a year. This year we get 8.

Back to the USC games we played a home & home series. Each team made no money off of the road games. Each team paid for there travels and expenses without no monetary gain. Most road teams are paid a set amount neogiated prior to playing. Teams comming to Lincoln make around $500,000 to 750,00 this year.

Playing at Reser in front of 35,000 is a joke. Auzten at 55,000 is reasonable. Leagues are created to cut travel cost and a set amount is determined by the league for payment to the visiting school. To play at a place like Reser would require a 2/1 deal. As travel costs and lodging would eat to much $$$$$$.

[SaltyChick]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

Salty Chick,
It's nice to see another SEC fan aboard, even if you do root for the wrong team. My little sis went to UGA and even though I love her to death, I just couldn't cheat on the Tide going between the hedges.

Thanks TB! It's all in good fun! So I leave you with this gem . . . . we're gonna teach Knowshon how to surf (the tide)!

Amy

[backlash442]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

Yeah... your right. I am ignorant.... Just a dumb ole country boy up here trying to make a living with the rest of you big city folk. I never said USC was full of rich kids..... most kids that play football (whether at USC or anywhere else) come from low to middle class families and if it wasn't for the full ride, they probably wouldn't be going to school at all. I could care a less about your opinions of college ball or anything else for that matter. My threshold is getting a bit small for your insults though. Call me ignorant or any of your other little arrogant things you like to throw on my posts again and you gonna get my full attention. It's college football bro, nothing personnal. Just cause I don't like USC or 90 percent of the Pac 10 teams doesn't mean we gotta get ugly. You start throwing your comments in about stating the obvious and how ignorant a person is, that could lead down a road you don't want to be on. Even if you do live in Cali....

Nothing wrong with being ignorant. Everybody is to some degree or another regarding something. Even myself and I know I am in a lot of areas. It has nothing to do with ones overall intelligence. Just means you don't have knowledge in a particular area. No biggie imo. You do like to play the ole country boy routine though.

If you don't care about my opinions why respond? Just let them go. As I will do with yours. Especially in the matters of football. It's a bit ridiculous to get upset about it don't you think? Getting ugly? I tried to keep it light. That's why I mentioned our petty team loyalties and the plenty of controversy right here on the board with a "lol" at the end. Well so much for the point by point explanation. I'll leave the threats alone. Nothing good ever comes about from that especially on a public board and even if I do live in Cali. like you stated. Have a good one.

[rimrock]

Holy smokes Tacklebuster, relax.

[husker]

to argue a bit about SOS schedule:

from this website http://www.solecismic.com/frontier/sos9.php

1) michigan

3) Baylor

18)Neb

29) Ore St

42) USC

50) TT

several of the B12 teams are in the top 20 of SOS. the pac 10 beat writer is stretching truth just like the politians.

of course this is only 1 site.

[rimrock]

When I comes to SOS discussions, the Pac10 doesn’t really belong in that discussion does it? lol

But in the end regardless wouldn’t we all agree the Pac10, B12, Big10, SEC and so on major conference champs belong in a January bowl game? Winning any of these major conferences is something special. 9+ games within any of these conferences is physically demanding, with the size and speed of major conference players, ya just get pounded. So IMO to win them is special regardless of SOS discussions.

[husker]

Originally Posted by rimrock

When I comes to SOS discussions, the Pac10 doesn’t really belong in that discussion does it? lol

But in the end regardless wouldn’t we all agree the Pac10, B12, Big10, SEC and so on major conference champs belong in a January bowl game? Winning any of these major conferences is something special. 9+ games within any of these conferences is physically demanding, with the size and speed of major conference players, ya just get pounded. So IMO to win them is special regardless of SOS discussions.

absolutely....however the big least and ACC both have automatic bids....not so sure about that....

i just want to see the pac 10 and big 10....leave the dam rose bowl and lets have a free for all.....1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8,9-10.......and the rose bowl gets whatever they get......

i cant stand the rose bowl and there
elitists attitude.....

[rimrock]

Originally Posted by husker

absolutely....however the big least and ACC both have automatic bids....not so sure about that....

i just want to see the pac 10 and big 10....leave the dam rose bowl and lets have a free for all.....1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8,9-10.......and the rose bowl gets whatever they get......

i cant stand the rose bowl and there
elitists attitude.....

Good points!

Yea I know ACC not doubt automatic is a bit nuts. And it would be better for college football and the Rose Bowl if it stopped the pac/big10 gig. The best Rose Bowl in recent history was USC/Texas...man was that ever a great game!!!!!!!

Nice to see Neb on it's way back too!!!!! But being in the B12 is tough this year, best in the nation this season. Even over the SEC.

[Tacklebuster]

Originally Posted by backlash442

Yeah right just shows your ignorance. You probably think all the kids that go there are nothing but spoiled rich kids too. Vegas odds makers are in the biz of making money and they don't have our petty team loyalties to deal with. It's all black and white with them.

At least USC wins big games unlike ND. Don't forget UF LOST to an unranked team at home and is ranked 4th in either coaches poll or AP. So don't tell me how USC doesn't deserved to be ranked.

About the only thing I'd agree with you is football is football (kind of stating the obvious though) and the game needs to be played. It's about who wants it more on that day. Talent alone will never win a game but WSU is one of those exceptions where talent alone can beat them.

If you look at the USA poll it has USC ranked with a tougher SOS schedule than the teams a head of it as calculated by their computer. Go figure.

If you want a playoff system the best thing in the world is to have controversy. Plenty here lol.

No threats..... Just stating the fact that my stomach is just about full of your arrogant remarks. Not just this post but every other one you have piled on when I'm involved. I'm sure it get's just as old to the people that live in Cali as well so it's just some kind advice given by an ignorant young country boy.

Amy,
"No Show" may surf the tide a little but I think he is gonna crash against the rocks again Maybe Stafford and "No Show" will sleep in and miss the first half Either that or Bama will start playing 4 quarters of football instead of only two

Chris

[backlash442]

"No threats..... Just stating the fact that my stomach is just about full of your arrogant remarks. Not just this post but every other one you have piled on when I'm involved. I'm sure it get's just as old to the people that live in Cali as well so it's just some kind advice given by an ignorant young country boy."

Well to this layed back So. Cal. boy it sure does sound like a threat. Especially about the part not going down a road I don't want it to even if I live in Cali. Kicking someones buttocks means nothing. It will get the kicker in far more trouble than the kickee. I'll leave it at that.

Sure glad it's Thurs. and some football is on tonight.

[Tacklebuster]

"Especially about the part not going down a road I don't want it to even if I live in Cali. Kicking someones buttocks means nothing."

Try telling that to the mighty Trojans.... That butt kicking meant something

Going down a road I don't want to be in even if I live in Cali..... That meant talking a bunch of junk taking into consideration the mighty Trojans can run the table. Your playoff comment..... I don't possibly see how a playoff sytem would cause any controversy. That is the only way USC will see a National Championship game this year (unless they watch it on TV) if you still have 2 undefeated teams in a BCS conference. Especailly a BCS conference that actually has a conference championship game. BCS conferences that do not have a conference title game is a pretty weak structure and goes against them when it comes down to undefeated teams that win a conference title game.

Tell you what would be nice to see... Boise State and Fresno State join the conference and make it the Pac 12. Split it down the middle East/West and have conference championship game. That would make the Pac 10 ot 12 very strong. It would also give those two schools better recruiting.

Anyway... No hard feelings or threats, I just get a belly full when I hear your remarks sometimes. Your right... Football tonight... what's your pick

[SaltyChick]

Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

Amy,
"No Show" may surf the tide a little but I think he is gonna crash against the rocks again Maybe Stafford and "No Show" will sleep in and miss the first half Either that or Bama will start playing 4 quarters of football instead of only two

Chris

Georgia will have to play all 4 qtrs against Bama's mammoth O line and D line for sure! We'll have to depend on brains and speed! Oh heck, this is all conjecture anyway. We've still got to beat the Gators in Jacksonville . . . . no small feat!!

Speaking of strength of schedule, UGA has the toughest in the nation. Just my

[Tacklebuster]

Georgia does have the toughest schedule no doubt. Luckily Vandy isn't as good as everyone thought they were in week 4. I think you guys can pull it off in Jacksonville, that UGA defense just has to contain T-bow and stop that speedy little back. You guys will put up some points.... no doubt about that.

I (Bama) would much rather play UGA for the title instead of Florida. Maybe it's just an SEC thing but I hate the Gators, hate the Tigers, and really just can't stand the "V".

[backlash442]

TB, I really have nothing against you. In fact last Nov. when you posted that you were selling your boat I sent you a PM that basically said best of luck with what ever you do and that you'd miss the ocean. I really meant it otherwise I would have never sent it. I certainly had nothing to gain.

Problem with writing instead of hearing what comes out of someones voice is you can't take intent or sarcasm etc. into consideration. Sometimes it just plain comes out wrong. Then once it's written and sent you can't take it back. It's out there.

As for football I thought yesterday was today. Have a nasty sinus/head cold and just forgot what day it was lol. I like Auburn but hope WV wins.

Yeah the mighty Trojans got their butts kicked at OS. No doubt about it. That's why I say you have to be ready to play the game every week. That goes for every college team out there. Only way SC will play in the NCG is if three of the teams above them lose. However, I think they'll go to a BCS game IF they don't lose. Would love to see them play a SEC team. They are 4-0 in recent history against the SEC. Beat Auburn home and away and Arkansas home and away.

Oh and I like OSU at home against PSU. Just not convinced PSU is that good.

[Tacklebuster]

I hear ya brother....... Nothing like some good ole college football to bring out the best/worst in people. Looks like we both read into what was written wrong. My apologies on that. Some of us ole country boys aint real good at reading into the intent or real meaning of stuff. I guess I should have spent more time in English and Literature and less time picking my banjo

USC is extremely talented and I look forward to watching them play in January, hopefully against an SEC team like Florida or LSU. I still don't think LSU is as good as everyone thinks. I do agree, Penn State hasn't been tested this year. I hope Ohio State can give them something to chew on. Get well