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Old 07-02-2003, 12:17 PM   #1
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Cograts Amigo! Glad your trip was muy bueno!
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Old 07-02-2003, 04:34 PM   #2
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Man...I love Baja. Haven't been in 9 years now, however I will be back.
First trip was in 1980, and Mulege was our destination (actually Bahia de Concepcion). THAT was an awesome trip. 22 pesos to the dollar bought a whole lotta beer
I was amazed by how things changed over the years, as Punta Coyote became a destination for RV'ers (we had a palapa and damn near a whole beach to ourselves at spring break). In 1990, the scallops and nearshore fish had been nearly fished out (we are snorklers and hawaiian sling chuckers) to the point that we only took 1 amberjack apiece.
Unfortunately, Baja,of course, is not as it used to be, and I contributed (on a tiny scale) to its denuded environment. I just felt I had to confess to somebody .
The major player however has been the net boats and longliners that have taken to fishing the Sea of Cortez with regularity the last 20 years or so.
That said, sounds like you had a great time, with decent numbers of fish to boot. Next time you head down, give yourself more time and head south a couple hours to Loreto. It's just far enough that it is still retains a bit more of the original "Baja feel", and offers great fishing with an excellent bunch of "Pangero's".
Bought a dandy Palapa/home there in 1992, owned it for six months, then was offered double for it in November of the same year. Suffice it to say that I wished I'd kept the place :depressed: .
I'm jealous as hell...but keep going back, and take it easy on the resources.
I respect the fact that you fed some of the locals. Don't know how you did it, but if you want to have the highest and best impact do it yourself to individuals--most pangeros sell their fish if given the chance. I don't blame them, but they're making $150.00 a day American, while many of their neighbors are making, if they're lucky, $15.00-$20.00 a day, most far less.
Sheesh--just revealed another liberal bend. Gotta go to the conservative website and renew my vows .
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Old 07-02-2003, 05:02 PM   #3
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The current exchange is about $1=10.5 pesos

I talked with several people that were fishing Loreto and they didn't do any better than we did on Dorado. 2-4 weeks later would be a different story though.

The situation that lead to feeding some of the locals was when a older man and woman drove up in a 1972 Ford pu,to where I was cleaning fish. They wanted the carcass which I let them have. With my "muy peke'nyo espanol" I let them know that I would give them "ono pescado mannyana" They showed up and waited for us to get back in the next day and the next and the next.

I'm not going to wait anywhere close to 9 years before I go back :grin:
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Old 07-02-2003, 11:18 PM   #4
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We left Thursday 6/19 noonish, arrived in Ensenada Friday around 15:00 for some shopping (keep the wife happy) and dinner. Stayed in a campground in town (new experience, Ensenada is not the real Baja, won't do that again). Drove the next day to San Ignacio 100 km from the sea of Cortez. Slept under the palm trees in the little desert oasis. Drove the next day to San Lucas, 34 hours of drive time, and ended up staying in the campground next door at Comacho's beach campground. Made the rounds through camp asking questions. The fisherman there all acted like Salty Dogs... "pull up a chair"..."you want a soda?"..."here is how you do it"... "get your chart I'll show ya"... "follow us out"... "see those palm trees, get your bait off those in 60' of water,before the sun comes up"...etc. etc.

Lesson 1: Look closer at the tide chart you printed off the net, that way you wont have to wait 45 min. for the tide to float the boat enough to drag it off the sand. We still made bait.

Lesson 2: Learned that a small bubbler won't keep much bait alive. The spare bilge pump worked to feed lots of water to a cooler on the splashwell, but I couldn't put it low enough to pump at anything over 4 knots. When running faster than that, just pour water into the cooler.

We kicked tail on Yellowtail. 8-12 fish hooked per day. 2-8 fish to the boat. Biggest fish was a 30 lb'er. Around 10:00 we would go search for some Dorado, they were kind of scattered, but we got several hookups and a couple to the boat. The biggest Dorado was a 30 lb'er. I hooked a Marlin one day for a brief time, hook wasn't set good enough though.

We repeated this drill for a week. Get up before daylight, wade out to the boat anchored in the cove, run by GPS out to the mouth of the cove. Catch bait, go chase fish. Yellowtail very good, the Dorado, sailfish and marlin scattered. Throw in some Skipjack tuna, Cabrilla, Grouper etc and we had fun. Return to camp around 13:00 and clean up, gave some fish away to some of the locals, or vacuum sealed what we were going to keep. Then either go to town (Santa Rosalia or Mulege) or have a siesta. Go snorkling or back out to chase some fish in the late afternoon.

Learned quite a few things to make the next trip even more enjoyable. I'll buy more food in Mexico, I'll leave the camper at home, although it helped keep the semi trucks in their own lane on the hi-way. I'll fuel the boat up after I am almost to my destination (less weight on the trailer) because it is too easy to drop the right side tire off the pavement. 9' wide lanes, camper 8.5' wide, boat 8' wide. I'll go later next time to get into more Dorado and MR. BILL

Motored through a group of apprx 12 whales. Had a pod of apprx. 250 dolphins working off shore over 3 diff days. They liked to surf the bow wake at about 15 knots. The only tuna under them were Skipjack. The Dolphin were not bothered by the boat, but when I jumped in the water they turned and went the other way. It was strange watching them go by under me as far down as I could see in the 82 degree blue water. We also had a group of 100+ manta rays swimming off the Isla San Marcos on 2 diff. days.

As we left the campground my wife and I looked at each other and said "when, not if, we are going back". Looking back: we paid $16.00 for 4 days of freezer rental, 6pack of pacifico, 5 bags of ice, 4 sodas and 1 night of camping. We kept the fish cold for the trip back in a 150 qt. 5 day cooler layered with fish and ice and rock salt. In fact it froze the fish that wasn't already frozen, and we only had to add 2 more bags of ice.

Many thanks to those who contributed info for this trip (Diamondside among others. Sorry no pictures, my scanner doesn't work. I'll be going again next year or the year after, if you are interested let me know.

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Old 07-03-2003, 07:17 AM   #5
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Great report. San lucus has some great fishing. Were you mostly fishing off the N end of San Marcos? Were the YT on top at all? I have never been there this time of year, but would love to fish for some Dorado/sailfish/tuna.
Baja is awesome. I go at least once a year!
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Old 07-03-2003, 02:04 PM   #6
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Sounds like a great trip. We'll be doing something similar next year but the plan is to head there for a late July/ early August fishing expedition. When the water is warm enough, the fishing can't be beat!
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Old 07-03-2003, 06:37 PM   #7
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At the real exchange rate , we are talking a huge difference peso wise. I thought it was devalued like 1-1000 sometime in the 80's. In the early 90's, it was in the 2000^ pesos to the dollar range. Horrible tragedy for the Mexican people, but a boon for the government!
Good job sharing fish. Next time give 'em the first one
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Old 07-03-2003, 07:19 PM   #8
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Fishmstr, The YT were off the north end of San Marcos at the "110 spot" which means in 120' of water. To catch them on top you have to be there in April or May, at least that is what I was told. We used about 6oz of lead in front of a live mackrel. We had to run the drag down tight to keep them from "rocking" us, when they bite, hang on tight! :grin:
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Old 07-03-2003, 08:45 PM   #9
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Congrats on a great trip, fishwhenican! Just hearing you talk of making bait in front of the palms and fishing the 110 makes me sigh and get all starry eyed! How was the humidity?
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Old 07-04-2003, 08:53 AM   #10
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Damn!
I was going to go this May/June and changed plans. I NEED to go soon! Chris, how come you let me change my mind? I wanna go to Baja NOW!!!!
Patience my boy. It will be soon :smile: :smile:
Nice trip and report!
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