Luger 22 Caliber

[cobra]

A friend of mine has a Luger 22 cailber (long rifle shell) pistol. I spoke with a guy a sportsmans warehouse and he said this gun was only made for a few years about 30 years ago. Does anyone have an idea of the value of the gun?

[nakoa]

Originally Posted by cobra

A friend of mine has a Luger 22 cailber (long rifle shell) pistol. I spoke with a guy a sportsmans warehouse and he said this gun was only made for a few years about 30 years ago. Does anyone have an idea of the value of the gun?

untrue i have a brand new, and ruger has them on their web site. brand new(depends on the barel lenght) about 375

[Shark Bait]

Originally Posted by nakoa

untrue i have a brand new, and ruger has them on their web site. brand new(depends on the barel lenght) about 375

L-u-g-e-r not Ruger.

Sorry I can't help you on the value, but I have always wanted one of those. Any chance you could get pics?

[billc_sbio]

Originally Posted by cobra

A friend of mine has a Luger 22 cailber (long rifle shell) pistol. I spoke with a guy a sportsmans warehouse and he said this gun was only made for a few years about 30 years ago. Does anyone have an idea of the value of the gun?

I believe what your friend may have is an Erma ".22 Luger".

(And I also think it was more like 40 years ago!)

It's pretty much a toggle-link Luger lookalike, but not an exact replica.

What's actually more "interesting" for a real Luger collector is that there were some .22 conversion kits made to fit/work on a real Pistole '08!

And no, I don't think that Ruger makes any Lugers, although their original .22 Autos (and subsequent models) do have a P-08 shaped grip.

[stlhdrgrn]

I have one of the Erma 22s Fun & dependable in my opinion. They do look like a Lugar. I have no idea of there value.

[cobra]

The gun is a Luger - stamped on the side of the gun. About a 20 shell round clip in the handle. Shells eject out of the top.

[baltz526]

look on the gun for anything that might be john martz, in 22 mag. or a wooden box, green cardboard box, **** navy markings. 22 lugars where made by stoeger, erma and by kit

[billc_sbio]

Originally Posted by cobra

The gun is a Luger - stamped on the side of the gun. About a 20 shell round clip in the handle. Shells eject out of the top.

Well, kinda sorta.

Georg Luger designed the pistol around 1900 in Germany and its official name is The Parabellum Pistol. (Pistol for War)

The official German version of the pistol as adopted by the German military in 1908 was "Pistole '08", there are other versions of it that were produced that were not exactly a P-08, but were very similar (well enough to be called a true "Luger")

What's funny (at least interesting) was that in the 1930s Stoeger Arms, the U.S. importer of commercially sold Lugers, licensed that name as a trademark. After that even real Lugers could not be sold in the U.S. as a "Luger" by anyone other than Stoeger!

So real Lugers (all made in either .30 Luger, 9mm, and a few experimental pistols made in .45 ACP) have been made in Germany by DWM, Erma and Mauser. There have been some others, licensed in other countries to produce the basic same pistol. These were almost all entirely made BEFORE WW-II.

As far as I'm aware there's never been a "real" P-08 style pistol (let's call it a clone) made in .22LR.

(BTW, the true Luger design pistols have a unique feature, not found in any other pistol anywhere.

The pistol can be disassembled into two halves. The top half, called "the Cannon" can be functionally FIRED as a unit.

Everthing's there, locked up in battery, to fire a round by pressing on the Sear Release Bar.

You won't find these features on any toggle-link lookalikes, their mechanisms are different)

There are various toggle link .22 Automatics that are somewhat similar to a Luger in overall appearance (intentionally so, of course) that have been made and some of them may be marked "Luger" (remember that trademark thing?)

Technically, it would be possible for the Trademark holder to take a 1911 Automatic and stamp "Luger" on the side of it. Remember, now it's a brand name.

There are many books on Lugers, German Lugers, Portugese Lugers, Swiss pattern Lugers; they are many and varied.

Take your .22 Luger into a gunshop that has a large selection of used handguns available and you'll probably find at least 1 or 2 old Lugers for sale.

Compare your pistol to one of the 9mm Lugers and you'll see what I mean.

Close, but not close enough to really be "a Luger".