problems with the 466 bull rumors?

[Pokecr8]

live in milton- freewater. heard today he flew in the same day he shot the bull. problem if not comercial flight. was shot on pirvate property without permision. and guide was not licenced for washington. anyway aparently these are under investigation.

Tom Johnson

[Limbhanger]

We should reserve judgement until something credible comes in.

Hard to imagine that just about every law was broken on one hunt, but I guess stranger things have happened.

[Rank Amateur]

Hmm.....could it be the state will end up with a trophy??? Let the facts come out, but in my experience, people do really crazy things when it comes to big bulls.

Now I understand what all the odd statements were about on the other thread.

[lor]

Originally Posted by Pokecr8

heard today he flew in the same day he shot the bull. problem if not comercial flight.

Does Oregon have this as law????

[lovdasnow]

he shot it in washington and not oregon. and yes, oregon has this law

[huntinfool]

Originally Posted by Pokecr8

live in milton- freewater. heard today he flew in the same day he shot the bull. problem if not comercial flight. was shot on pirvate property without permision. and guide was not licenced for washington. anyway aparently these are under investigation.

Tom Johnson

Sorry, but you're just spreading another rumor. I know the guide (who is in the pic with the goatee and ball cap). The bull was taken on forest service land with permission from them. It is not going to score 466, closer to 446.

[Klamanite]

Originally Posted by huntinfool

Sorry, but you're just spreading another rumor. I know the guide (who is in the pic with the goatee and ball cap). The bull was taken on forest service land with permission from them. It is not going to score 466, closer to 446.

Not interested in the drama .......pics please

[HntnFsh]

Originally Posted by Klamanite

Not interested in the drama .......pics please

Here ya go Klamanite.
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthrea...55#post2173655

Go over to hunting washington.Lots of info there.

[Klamanite]

Originally Posted by HntnFsh

Here ya go Klamanite.
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthrea...55#post2173655

Go over to hunting washington.Lots of info there.

Sorry, I thought that post was in reference to another bull being taken. Thanks though

[nakoa]

wasn't that on a govonors tag?

[traks44]

Originally Posted by Pokecr8

live in milton- freewater. heard today he flew in the same day he shot the bull. problem if not comercial flight. was shot on pirvate property without permision. and guide was not licenced for washington. anyway aparently these are under investigation.

Tom Johnson

If you knew have of the story you would know it didnt score 466. The bull was killed 100% legally in the state of washington as I had a really nice sit down with an older gentleman who was one of the scouts. The bull was also killed on public land, but I guess you didnt know that either. I stayed out of the first post because I didnt want to get rapped up in the meaningless chatter, but I wont stand here and let slander get posted about the bull. Did you know the gentleman also had an Arizone governors tag? Probably not!

The only reason someone they would get investigated is because someone else would be jealous and mad because he killed the bull and not them.

[beardbuster]

If I am correct; the only law against using an aircraft is when you radio to a hunter on the ground where a animal is located. I don't think they have a 24 hour no hunt period after flying.

[WSU]

I don't think that you are correct. I think there is such a law, at least in washington.

[Klamanite]

Originally Posted by beardbuster

If I am correct; the only law against using an aircraft is when you radio to a hunter on the ground where a animal is located. I don't think they have a 24 hour no hunt period after flying.

Originally Posted by WSU

I don't think that you are correct. I think there is such a law, at least in washington.

Here's the rule for Oregon:

VEHICLES, BOATS, AIRCRAFT, ATVS
No Person Shall:

Communicate information on the location
of game mammals from an aircraft.

Hunt within 8 hours after having been
transported by helicopter or fixed-wing
aircraft to any point other than an established
airport adequate for fixed-wing
aircraft.

As long as you don't communicate the location of animals and land at an established airport you are good to go.

Not sure about Washingtons rules.

[Havensen]

Here is the law straight out of the 2008-2009 WA State Dept. of Fish & Wildlife Big Game Hunting Season and Rules Pamphlet:

using aircraft: It is unlawful to use an
aircraft to spot, locate, or report the location of
wildlife for the purpose of hunting. It is unlawful
to hunt big game on the same day you were
airborne for any purpose, except for a regularly
scheduled commercial flight.

[fishlis 1]

This always happens! When someone shoots something huge or catches more fish in one year then most people do in 5 years they have to be cheating. I personally think people should mind there own business until it becomes factual or becomes their business.

My
Sam

[Chesapeake]

In Washington you cannot hunt the same day you were airborne unless it was a regularly scheduled commercial flight.


I hate how every time a big animal is taken there is never a straight clean story of a hunter just doing his thing taking the animal. There is always stories, accusations, and rumors surrounding it all,and it seems there is always several people involved. Its sad.

Its bad enough this guy paid big bucks to get a tag and have a guide show him a big elk to shoot. Its bad enough that the guides ****** out this elk to the highest bidder. Even if it was done 100% legal.

I imagine it was done legal. I cant imagine the guides and this rich shooter would attempt such a high profile kill without crossing the T's and dotting the I's. But who kows. I bet we'll never know the real story.

Its a grand elk!

[RiverMan]

Word is locally that he paid someone to tell him where the bull was at and that someone wasn't a guide which just happens to be illegal.

RM

[Big Unit]

Got this in an email, don't know anynmore than that:

thought you would all find these Pics of the 466" Washington's Governors tag bull very interesting.

It is being called the "Bird Bath" elk.

The person who took these photos had an opportunity of a lifetime this last week and got to be a part of the hunt for this Washington giant. The hunter was Dan Agnew from Vancouver. The bull is a 9x10, with a green score of 450" plus. It will be the new WA state record. Also included is a photo of the elk alive on the evening of 9/2/08 from across the canyon.

Best Regards, Dale

Dale & Tara Denney
345 Hwy 20E #A
Colville, WA 99114

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Home Office: 509-684-6294
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Email: dale@bearpawoutfitters.com
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[Idahoan]

Wow.....a lot folks must be having bad hunting seasons. The classic "this isn't fair scenario." Grow up folks life isn't always "fair".

[Rauly]

This is basicly the same rule for Oregon too. I just spoke with the FAA and got it confirmed.

Originally Posted by Havensen

Here is the law straight out of the 2008-2009 WA State Dept. of Fish & Wildlife Big Game Hunting Season and Rules Pamphlet:

using aircraft: It is unlawful to use an
aircraft to spot, locate, or report the location of
wildlife for the purpose of hunting. It is unlawful
to hunt big game on the same day you were
airborne for any purpose, except for a regularly
scheduled commercial flight.

[johndeeregreen]

Originally Posted by fishlis 1

This always happens! When someone shoots something huge or catches more fish in one year then most people do in 5 years they have to be cheating. I personally think people should mind there own business until it becomes factual or becomes their business.

My
Sam

[Oregon-Jet]

Originally Posted by huntinfool

Sorry, but you're just spreading another rumor. I know the guide (who is in the pic with the goatee and ball cap). The bull was taken on forest service land with permission from them. It is not going to score 466, closer to 446.

You guys are as bad as rumor spreading women In a laundry mat.
There is a Wallowa county police officer in that picture and licensed guide.I will leave his name out.
Come on guys why would you say crap like this and not know for sure, you should be congratulating him. This site amazes me sometimes.... I hope none of you become victim of rumors of the same you are creating.
BTW its 449 gross and 436 net non-typical