boat hulls

[chillybones]

looking for a boat to use in the bays and maybe just outside the bars i.e. t.bay, nehalem. does anyone has pros and cons for a deep v vs. a trihull for stability and staying dry? any help would be great. chillybones

[love2fish]

chillybones,
My first boat was a trihull, and it was the wettest boat I ever owned. I prefer the deep V that I have now.

love2fish

[Mello-Yello]

Tri-hulls provide great stability, but don't cut through chop very well. If you're looking for anything to do with salt water, deep-V all the way.

For an example of the difference, fill your sink with water.

First, drive your hand into the water with a 'karate chop'. Note how much splash you make. This would be a V-hull cutting through water.

Then, with your palm facing down, slap your hand into the water with a 'low five'. Again, note how much splash you make. This would be the tri-hull.

Lastly, mop up the mess you made with the latter test, or your apt to find a 'tri-hull' test up-side your head when wifey sees your test results.



M-Y

[Sensei-san]

Chillybones,

Both melloyello and loves2fish have great advice. But... the most seaworthy small boat that was ever made was a trihull.

That would be the Boston Whaler Montauk 17'. I have seen them in tunatown with 5 gallon gas cans lashed to the gunnels and two guys with big s#!* eating grins on their faces wearing yellow foul weather gear. They are major wet riding boats.

But I would not buy any other trihull and try that. It like the disclaimer on the TV ads. (Do not attempt this stunt. Done only with a Boston Whaler.) Newer catamaran designs are totally different. They are designed to tunnel the water through the middle.

Boston Whaler no longer makes the trihull Montauk. The new design is a deep vee. Hint Hint...

[ 06-04-2003, 08:44 AM: Message edited by: Sensei-san ]

[Pilar]

ChillyBones, as a guy that actually uses a trihull in the ocean ...

Yes, it is a wet boat. I can scarcely believe that it once has no top on it, what was I thinking? In short chop the sponsons throw spray and any wind blows it right at you.

Just as there are different designs of deep vee hulls, there are different designs of trihulls.

The most common type is the blunt bow with an open area in front of the windsheild. A bow rider. The open bow is a bad idea on any ocean boat but especially so on this boat. Usually it also has a low or medium rise on it too which makes it even easier to plow a wave and fill the swimming pool on the bow.

They also make the square front and closed bow. This is a wide for it's length and very roomy boat. The bow is not pointed enough and that can be a problem.

What I have is called a 'cathedral' hull. It combines the characteristics of deep vee and trihull. The bow is pointy and closed. The sponsons run 3/4 the length of the boat and make it wide. The bow is not high enough for me but it is higher than the first two mentioned.

The Whaler mentioned by Sensei-san is of the same basic design, but it is open like a sled. And I have seen these open boats in the damndest places, often far offshore.

My boat, an old 19' Bayliner Jamaica, rides pretty rough in short chop. You have to slow down, put the bow up and plow through it. The ride is much improved lately with the addition of the sport tabs. I can shove the bow down and minimize the banging. The use of the tabs is still somewhat of a mystery but the most noteworthy change is the ability to trim for much bumpier water on plane than before. On any other ocean the ride is nice and the boat cuts sharp corners and surfs waves easily. The boat is wide, 7' for 19' length so it does not rock nearly as bad as some other boats. And I love the open area for fishing. If it was configured as an outboard it would have even more room. The area under the bow is very open and can hold alot of bulky gear or fish boxes.

Right now 'Pilar' is working pretty good. The next boat will be an Ed Wing ocean but this one will have to do for now.

[chillybones]

once again the clan from ifish has come thru!! was going to make an offer on a tri hull larson, time to fall back and regroup. thanks c.b. :shocked: