Forgot to get tags

Grover · 09-02-2008, 10:18 AM

I'm hoping I'm the only stupid one here that did not buy their Archery tags in time. I have always bought my tags the week after our Labor Day Salmon fishing trip. Satuday morning my Son comes up to me and tells me the news. "We had until last night to to get our Archery tags". I was even featured last year in Fishing and Hunting news. My fist ever Archery kill a 6 point bull elk. What do I do now? I want to blame ODFW for moving the dates up a week but I know they are not the ones who forgot. Any suggestions out there?????

spottedhawk36 · 09-02-2008, 10:22 AM

sorry to hear that, my advice is to make sure you look at your synopsis every year because dates change all the time, its like every 3-4 years i think that the opener is labor day weekend or it might be less frequent, whats your plans now for hunting big game? again sorry to hear that.

BlacktailBowhunter · 09-02-2008, 10:26 AM

I can't even imagine not knowing when the deadline is. Then again, I usually buy my Sport Pac in April.

Grover · 09-02-2008, 10:28 AM

I'll certainly get rifle tags, but also checking out of State with my son for any archery hunts still available. I'm just sick to my stomach over this.

Rustyoar · 09-02-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlacktailBowhunter

I can't even imagine not knowing when the deadline is. Then again, I usually buy my Sport Pac in April.

Does the sports pack contain your archery tags?

I try to buy tags around 4th of July instead of Labor DAy. Ever have that dream, like miss studing for a final or turning in a paper worth 50% of your grade. Now I have those about forgetting my tags.

Grover · 09-02-2008, 10:41 AM

The tags had to be picked up by the 29th. No exceptions.

gcole · 09-02-2008, 10:46 AM

My dad didn't get his tag this year either. He bought his sport pack earlier this year and he said the first tag he told the guy he wanted was his archery elk tag. While packing things up to go hunting on Saturday morning he was going through his tags and discovered he didn't have his archery tag.

lor · 09-02-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I want to blame ODFW for moving the dates up a week but I know they are not the ones who forgot. Any suggestions out there?????

I'm really sorry you got caught up in this. I know alot of people support this policy, but I really hate this requirement for buying a deer or elk tag before the start of the season, especially one which is available over the counter. Archery season for the last 10 years I've hunted in Oregon has always started the last weekend in August. So, every 5 or 6 years we will get an opener on labor day weekend. Last time this occurred was 1997, then again 2003. Technically, the date has been moved back a week, giving you more time this year. I wish ODFW had some way of addressing this, even if it means going to an ODFW office.

spottedhawk36 · 09-02-2008, 10:57 AM

gcole,

wow that sucks for your dad. bet he wasnt to happy, so he thought the guy printed out an elk tag for him? i always double check what they printed me out.

12pulls · 09-02-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I'm hoping I'm the only stupid one here that did not buy their Archery tags in time. I have always bought my tags the week after our Labor Day Salmon fishing trip. Satuday morning my Son comes up to me and tells me the news. "We had until last night to to get our Archery tags". I was even featured last year in Fishing and Hunting news. My fist ever Archery kill a 6 point bull elk. What do I do now? I want to blame ODFW for moving the dates up a week but I know they are not the ones who forgot. Any suggestions out there?????

Sounds trite but I think you will live. Stuff happens every year to someone, use it as a reminder to be more vigilant in the future. The ODFW policy helps insure that people are purchasing tags prior to hunting, not hunting then not buying tags if they get skunked. They have done this as long as I can remember huntings and I began in the early 70's. I can promise you that life goes on if you don't go this year, perhaps you can try a different method this year then return to your first love next year. Life is too short to get caught up in coulda woulda shoulda, read the synopsis yearly when it comes out, mark the dates down, make your plans, and buy when you are sure you are going. Good luck this year, enjoy yourself and be thankful that you have the ability to hunt when the chance comes.

Dan360 · 09-02-2008, 11:11 AM

I think you might still be able to get an over-the-counter archery tag for Washington. It might be a bit pricey, but its an option.

blackdog · 09-02-2008, 11:50 AM

Doesn't archery season begin every year BEFORE Labor Day?????

jr5575 · 09-02-2008, 11:58 AM

I was told thatarchery seasons in oregon are on a 7 year cycle and this is to give archery hunters one year every seven the best timing and chance to harvest an animal. so this year is supposed to be the golden ticket

scubaseth · 09-02-2008, 11:59 AM

Ya I have went through the I thougt I had a bear tag until I couldn't find it after the season started. I make sure I get all my tags when I get the sports pac.

Scuba

Dave Smith · 09-02-2008, 12:00 PM

Grover, I'm sick just reading this. I came close to forgetting this year and I was thinking how horrible it would've been for me- so sorry you're dealing with this now. Make the best of it- maybe something spectacular will happen during rifel season or out-of-state that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Good luck!
Dave

Eagleclaw · 09-02-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdog

Doesn't archery season begin every year BEFORE Labor Day?????

Yep...

OR Coast Range · 09-02-2008, 12:13 PM

Several years ago I drew a 600 series tag. When the lady behind the counter printed my tags, she printed the doe tag but not the general season deer tag. Of course I didn't check it, so I couldn't blame anyone but myself - but it was definately a sick feeling when I realized that I wasn't going to be hunting bucks that year.

Jeremy · 09-02-2008, 12:16 PM

Probably another thing that wont be a problem once we can buy tags online

Adjhunt · 09-02-2008, 12:19 PM

That really stinks man!! Sorry to hear it.

I thought the deadline has always been the day before the season opens...
I got mine the day before the deadline.

09-02-2008, 12:23 PM

Go fishin'

BrianMaguire · 09-02-2008, 12:52 PM

That would make me ill, sorry to hear about it. I have had that bad dream before. I buy my tags right after the draw is done, I did that once 15 years ago, never again.

WSU · 09-02-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scubaseth

Ya I have went through the I thougt I had a bear tag until I couldn't find it after the season started. I make sure I get all my tags when I get the sports pac.

Scuba

I think you can buy a bear tag after the season starts, up to a certain date. I believe the date is in October...

WSU · 09-02-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lor

I'm really sorry you got caught up in this. I know alot of people support this policy, but I really hate this requirement for buying a deer or elk tag before the start of the season, especially one which is available over the counter. Archery season for the last 10 years I've hunted in Oregon has always started the last weekend in August. So, every 5 or 6 years we will get an opener on labor day weekend. Last time this occurred was 1997, then again 2003. Technically, the date has been moved back a week, giving you more time this year. I wish ODFW had some way of addressing this, even if it means going to an ODFW office.

I think it is a great requirement. Washington has no such requirement, and I can tell you that a decent amount of tags get bought after an animal is killed.

jr5575 · 09-02-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WSU

I think you can buy a bear tag after the season starts, up to a certain date. I believe the date is in October...

October 3rd

dla · 09-02-2008, 01:05 PM

Oregon solves nothing by requiring a purchase before the season start.

jr5575 · 09-02-2008, 01:12 PM

If we werent required to buy before the season started then like washington people would go out and hunt then some would buy tags after they harvested.

If the moneys from tag sales is going to better habbitat and such then imagine how much money would be lost if everyone who didnt harvest didnt buy tags.

lor · 09-02-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WSU

I think it is a great requirement. Washington has no such requirement, and I can tell you that a decent amount of tags get bought after an animal is killed.

Yes but its an over the counter tag for a general season in which the number of available tags is unlimited.

Rank Amateur · 09-02-2008, 01:17 PM

Yep, a lot of outlaws would take advantage of not buying the tag before the season starts. Lot's of wives would get their bucks and bulls. It is a tool for L.E.O.'s let's not take it away. Just set a date each year that you buy your tags for the year, say August 1st.

lor · 09-02-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

Yep, a lot of outlaws would take advantage of not buying the tag before the season starts. Lot's of wives would get their bucks and bulls. It is a tool for L.E.O.'s let's not take it away. Just set a date each year that you buy your tags for the year, say August 1st.

Then why not do it for all tags, not just deer, elk, antelope, sheep, and goats, or does the state believe potential outlaw behavior applied to the bear, cougar, and turkey population is acceptable.

jr5575 · 09-02-2008, 01:37 PM

I believe thats because there is no "additional" tags for deer elk ect. there are for bear cougar and turkey

FrogPond · 09-02-2008, 01:38 PM

I know of a guy who drew a steens sheep tag and showed up oppening day to buy his tag...WHOOOPS!! I think the final word from ODFW was that since it is a lifetime tag and he drew it, but didn't buy it, they would let him reapply...Oh, and his dad harvested a Ram a couple years earlier. Lucky family.

WSU · 09-02-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lor

Yes but its an over the counter tag for a general season in which the number of available tags is unlimited.

So is Washington. All that means to me is that there is even more reason and opportunity for abuse of the system without the requirement.

dla · 09-02-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WSU

So is Washington. All that means to me is that there is even more reason and opportunity for abuse of the system without the requirement.

If there is no enforcement in the first place, how does setting a date to purchase a tag solve anything? Think folks.

Hunting without a valid tag is illegal already. But if you can't enforce that, then how does setting a cut-off date solve anything? Maybe I should watch COPS because this isn't making sense to me.

jr5575 · 09-02-2008, 02:02 PM

I think it is probably to stop people from buying say a bear tag in august hunting through archery season saying theire looking for bear and then right through rifle and so on.

I just feel like theres enouph cracks and oppertunities for poachers and we cant make it easier.

Im not saying it helps a whole lot just that it is another hurdle for retards to try to jump.

scubaseth · 09-02-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WSU

I think you can buy a bear tag after the season starts, up to a certain date. I believe the date is in October...

You are right WSU. It was after the last date you could buy. I was doing a rifle hunt.

Scuba

Yeti · 09-02-2008, 04:23 PM

Grover,

Sorry to hear about you missing the deadline. It sucks but you can still hunt with a rifle if you are brave!

BTW, I do know someone else who forgot his tags. He is going to be rifle hunting this season.

Purchasing a tag during the season proponents:

Why is making it more difficult for people who hunt without purchasing a tag a bad thing?

Let's see, make it easy for bubba to hunt EVERY season until he gets an animal, then buy the appropriate tag. Now bubba, who doesn't want to commit to anything, is competing with me during archery deer. Tromping through the woods with a rifle during rifle deer. Then back in bugging me during late season deer. But wait there is more! He gets to do it for the wife and each of the kids too!

I am sorry but I see no reason to give bubba a chance to play this game. If you don't think it is already happening think again. Remember the guy who shot the bull in the Applegate unit a couple of years ago? He called his wife to have her buy a tag after he poached it. She bought the wrong tag, couldn't buy the right one in season

, and was busted along with her husband.

I commit to a weapon and a season and am happy to buy my tag before it starts. Why shouldn't bubba?

hazmat · 09-02-2008, 04:34 PM

I forgot , I hunt the late season so I wasn't even thinking about it.
I guess I have time to finish some more honey do's
'

DLAW · 09-02-2008, 04:36 PM

You could always get an over the counter Idaho tag also. Good luck, I could not even imagine missing out a year.

Grover · 09-02-2008, 04:50 PM

Since I don't have a tag I decided I will guide some others. The joy in hunting is being with friends and family and the hunt. Not the killing. A year without the bow in hand may make me a better hunter in 2009. Thanks to all that contributed to this thread.

lor · 09-02-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeti

Grover,
Why is making it more difficult for people who hunt without purchasing a tag a bad thing?

I would suspect those of us who are most vocal have lived in or hunted in states that don't have this rule, yet have more opportunity, larger herd sizes, and better management of the resource. Its like the people of Oregon get off on making things harder for law biding citizens, legalling attempting to disenfranchise them in the name of punishing the fictious bad guy, which everyone can identify.
As if laws don't already exist on the books for that. Along the same thread, there are other hunters who are happy to see hunter numbers potentially reduced thru possibily forgetting, or events in there life for whatever reason prevent them from meeting the deadline.
When in the two examples I presented earlier, general season over the counter(unlimited), or lottery draw in which a tag has already been assigned, a deadline is just plain silly. Its not a mangement tool in either case to protect the number of animals which can potentially be overharvested, if that was the case, I could understand it.
Lets be honest, the people this is targetted at will probably never buy a tag, period. Because they just don't care.

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Originally Posted by hazmat

I forgot , I hunt the late season so I wasn't even thinking about it.
I guess I have time to finish some more honey do's
'

This is a prime example of why this is such a bad rule. Especially with Archer's who can hunt early, late season, or both. I could see if a person missed the early season deadline, they can't hunt early, but to say they can't hunt a later season which is 2 months away really shows the lunacy of this rule.

I don't expect anyone to understand my position, I'm sure its been like this for a long time, and in many ways you've gotten use to it, or just adopted the party line. I wonder if anyone has ever studied how many folks get hit with this and just say screw, I'm not hunting in Oregon anymore.

I'm sorry guys, I just can't accept this issue and will always be on the objecting side when this topic is discussed.

Rank Amateur · 09-02-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lor

I would suspect those of us who are most vocal have lived in or hunted in states that don't have this rule, yet have more opportunity, larger herd sizes, and better management of the resource. Its like the people of Oregon get off on making things harder for law biding citizens, legalling attempting to disenfranchise them in the name of punishing the fictious bad guy, which everyone can identify.
As if laws don't already exist on the books for that. Along the same thread, there are other hunters who are happy to see hunter numbers potentially reduced thru possibily forgetting, or events in there life for whatever reason prevent them from meeting the deadline.
When in the two examples I presented earlier, general season over the counter(unlimited), or lottery draw in which a tag has already been assigned, a deadline is just plain silly. Its not a mangement tool in either case to protect the number of animals which can potentially be overharvested, if that was the case, I could understand it.
Lets be honest, the people this is targetted at will probably never buy a tag, period. Because they just don't care.

This is a prime example of why this is such a bad rule. Especially with Archer's who can hunt early, late season, or both. I could see if a person missed the early season deadline, they can't hunt early, but to say they can't hunt a later season which is 2 months away really shows the lunacy of this rule.

I don't expect anyone to understand my position, I'm sure its been like this for a long time, and in many ways you've gotten use to it, or just adopted the party line. I wonder if anyone has ever studied how many folks get hit with this and just say screw, I'm not hunting in Oregon anymore.

I'm sorry guys, I just can't accept this issue and will always be on the objecting side when this topic is discussed.

Fair enough LOR, its just one of those subjects that many of us will not agree upon. Many of us have seen the abuse and understand the reason why and that is our arguement. I do have the audio tape of the commission debating the deadline for cougar and bear, it was very contentious and they went around and around on it.

BrianMaguire · 09-02-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rank Amateur

Yep, a lot of outlaws would take advantage of not buying the tag before the season starts. Lot's of wives would get their bucks and bulls. It is a tool for L.E.O.'s let's not take it away. Just set a date each year that you buy your tags for the year, say August 1st.

Exactly, how many of us buy that second Turkey tag from the get go? I don't, after I tag my first one I decide.

a12seccrx · 09-02-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I'll certainly get rifle tags, but also checking out of State with my son for any archery hunts still available. I'm just sick to my stomach over this.

Don't beat yourself up over it! I've done the same thing a couple times, only in my case, it was shear stupidity and not that they moved the dates like they did in your case. Just go get your rifle tags and have a good time with what you can get. Good luck to ya!

Opportunist · 09-03-2008, 01:55 AM

That sucks! If you got to bowhunt, shell out the dough and buy Washington westside archery elk or go to Idaho archery I just checked they still have elk zone tags. Roll with it.

I don't know how old your son is but if he is under 17 Idaho is the way to go. You can buy him deer and elk tags for $35 +/- as a non-resident mentored youth hunter as long as he hunts with a licensed adult (yourself), check it out, it's a great deal!

BlacktailBowhunter · 09-03-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rustyoar

Does the sports pack contain your archery tags?

I try to buy tags around 4th of July instead of Labor DAy. Ever have that dream, like miss studing for a final or turning in a paper worth 50% of your grade. Now I have those about forgetting my tags.

Yes.

gcole · 09-03-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spottedhawk36

gcole,

wow that sucks for your dad. bet he wasnt to happy, so he thought the guy printed out an elk tag for him? i always double check what they printed me out.

Yes, he thought the guy printed out the tag, and he didn't check....He will never make that mistake again. Rifle elk tag for him this year.

Wheels · 09-03-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WSU

I think it is a great requirement. Washington has no such requirement, and I can tell you that a decent amount of tags get bought after an animal is killed.

Exactly WSU........................I think there is no reason to be able to buy a tag AFTER the season starts !!!!! Wheels.

AB23 · 09-03-2008, 10:41 AM

this sucks man. I can imagine what it felt like once u found out... No life isnt over but i'd be upset aswell. Atleast u can still go for rifle

jokester · 09-03-2008, 10:48 AM

You can't blame the system for your screw-up. However, I do kinda feel for ya, cause that does suck!

-jokester

Steelheader · 09-03-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I'm hoping I'm the only stupid one here that did not buy their Archery tags in time. I have always bought my tags the week after our Labor Day Salmon fishing trip. Satuday morning my Son comes up to me and tells me the news. "We had until last night to to get our Archery tags". I was even featured last year in Fishing and Hunting news. My fist ever Archery kill a 6 point bull elk. What do I do now? I want to blame ODFW for moving the dates up a week but I know they are not the ones who forgot. Any suggestions out there?????

ODFW is not to blame on this one, it was your fault for not doing your part. Sorry if this hurts. Maybe next year you will have it sorted out. Good luck.

fergy61 · 09-03-2008, 01:03 PM

One of my hunting partners who was supposed to leave for E.O. with me on a certain date last year, informed me at the last minute that he forgot to buy his tags and wouldn't be going. Man was I MAD

I waited for another week until my other hunting partner was coming over & went then. One week of vacation was wasted.

Hunting partner #1 bought his tags in January this year & vowed that he would never let this happen again.

It's a tough lesson but most people who forgot one time will never let it happen again.

As others have stated, you can still buy a Washington Lic & tag over the counter. I think that is what I would do if I were in your shoes.

Good Luck.

Ni! · 09-03-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lor

Its like the people of Oregon get off on making things harder for law biding citizens, legalling attempting to disenfranchise them in the name of punishing the fictious bad guy, which everyone can identify.

Lets be honest, the people this is targetted at will probably never buy a tag, period. Because they just don't care.

Bad guys aren't ficticious, they're a very real issue. As to your second point, there are two very different kinds of poaching. One I would call soft poaching, and the other hard poaching. Soft poaching is probably the most common, and it takes place during the season through the manipulation of tags. That's the type that this rule is designed to counteract, and I support it. The hard poaching is like what we're seeing down in Glendale with the poached elk left to rot during the summer. You're correct that this rule will not have any effect on those guys. That doesn't mean it doesn't help curtail the other kind of poaching that takes place, or that it's not a valuable tool for law enforcement to use in dealing with it.

Half fast Toyn · 09-03-2008, 02:10 PM

Almost did the same thing. I get my Sportsman Pack around Jan 1st every year. This year they didnt print off my archery elk or archery deer tags. I checked the Friday night before opener. Lucky me.

DAB · 09-03-2008, 02:33 PM

Did it the year that you had to buy the ( rifle )tag something like by July 15 or some early date. Was used to not having to buy it till the night before the season opened, not that I waited. Glad it is back to day before.

Bet ya the ones that have messed up about buying there tag on time won,t make the same mistake again.

I must go down and get mine this Payday.

DAB

ajfishfinder · 09-03-2008, 09:00 PM

Join the OHA and they will send you a nice calendar to hang on your wall that has ALL the important dates on it.

Hookset · 09-03-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dla

Oregon solves nothing by requiring a purchase before the season start.

Would you rather have Mr. Deer Hunter or Mr. Elk Hunter shoot an animal, then pick up the wife, buy her a tag then go pick up HER Deer or Elk that Mr. Hubby shot earlier? Then allow Mr. Hunter to go out the following day and repeat the same scenario all over again with Mom, then Sis, then Dad and so on...... Heck some guys were good enough the probably took over 30 deer within 5 years.

The requirement to purchase a tag before the season helped resolve some of the problem with illegally tagging someone else's animal. It's a good rule that has been around for some time now and really shouldn't create any problems for people.

WSU · 09-05-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dla

If there is no enforcement in the first place, how does setting a date to purchase a tag solve anything? Think folks.

Hunting without a valid tag is illegal already. But if you can't enforce that, then how does setting a cut-off date solve anything? Maybe I should watch COPS because this isn't making sense to me.

Check out this surprisingly timely newstory. No effect? Never enforced?

http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/...rylist=orlocal

Little Fish · 09-05-2008, 11:12 AM

Washington Westside archery season starts Monday. You could still pull it off.

dla · 09-05-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WSU

Check out this surprisingly timely newstory. No effect? Never enforced?

http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/...rylist=orlocal

Is there a cutoff date for Cougar tags in Oregon? Is that how the kid got caught? And how did the paper learn about it? I don't think this a good example of how having a cutoff date on tag sales reduces poaching.

Rank Amateur · 09-05-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dla

Is there a cutoff date for Cougar tags in Oregon? Is that how the kid got caught? And how did the paper learn about it? I don't think this a good example of how having a cutoff date on tag sales reduces poaching.

Are you telling us that you have no fear at all of being checked? I haven't been checked over East in a long time, but I'm not willing to gamble a ticket and suspension either.