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07-31-2008, 05:52 AM
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AdminiMom
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Vacation, unplugged
Anyone have any tips on how to have a vacation, without taking your work with you?
Every family vacation I go on, people have cell phones laying around, and people talk business in the morning. It bugs me.
Last I went on vacation, a lady lying by the pool by me from Canada said, "What strikes me is that everyone here has cell phones. How do they relax? They are all talking business!" She said that folks where she live barely have cell phones, but everyone here does! That's a shame! What's it coming to?
But several people I know will get fired if they don't check in, electronically.
When I went to Black Butte, I had to go to the library in Sisters to check on ifish each morning.  Bummage! Everyone else was around the breakfast table. (Except the adults, who were on their cell phones! LOL)
So, how do you take vacation and make sure that it's a VACATION?
Jen
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07-31-2008, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Beyond the Bass Clef - Tigard
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Go someplace that doesn't have coverage, leave you phone at home, discipline. If you have a job that makes you check in while on vacation - time for a new job. I learned a long time ago to just let it go - everything will be OK. I even got into the habit of throwing away all my phone messages while I was gone (B4 e-mail) figuring if they didn't get the question answered by now they will call back (end user suport on computers).
Now when I get back, I have 500 e-mail messages - sort for my boss and read his first. Everyone else gets to wait.
In my line of work nothing is an emergency - almost everything I work on effect our business a couple of years from now, except for our IT folks who couldn't plan how to boil an egg.
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07-31-2008, 06:12 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Amity
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
A cell phone is nothing but a leash with somebody else holding the handle end.
Just turn it off, or vacation where there is no service
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07-31-2008, 06:26 AM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
When I did my OR/WA vacation earlier this year, I brought clothes,camera, and cell phone for emergencies. Kept it shut off unless absolutely necessary.
It was reeeeealy relaxing, and the cute girl at the pizza place in Kelso made it that much better...the pizza was good too!
The world will not come to an end if you don't check in, and a company that requires me to check in every day when I am ON vacation......not good!
Speakin of which...time to start plannin this years trip!!!
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07-31-2008, 06:30 AM
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'Jumpin' Slugs'
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kelso, Wa
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
It's called a vacation or a chance to get away and relax. Shut off the cell phone except if it's an emergency, leave the internet alone. You can do that stuff when You're at home at the daily grind. Nothing more annoying than going camping and having the next campsite stay up late watching movies or talking on their cellphones til all hours of the night. What ever happened to just getting drunk and telling stories around the campfire....?
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07-31-2008, 06:31 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
The only way I get away is to leave the country!!!! I am on call 365 days a year, and its nice to have a week or two without hearing my clients problems!
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07-31-2008, 06:54 AM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
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Originally Posted by Jennie@ifish
Anyone have any tips on how to have a vacation, without taking your work with you?
Every family vacation I go on, people have cell phones laying around, and people talk business in the morning. It bugs me.
Last I went on vacation, a lady lying by the pool by me from Canada said, "What strikes me is that everyone here has cell phones. How do they relax? They are all talking business!" She said that folks where she live barely have cell phones, but everyone here does! That's a shame! What's it coming to?
But several people I know will get fired if they don't check in, electronically.
When I went to Black Butte, I had to go to the library in Sisters to check on ifish each morning.  Bummage! Everyone else was around the breakfast table. (Except the adults, who were on their cell phones! LOL)
So, how do you take vacation and make sure that it's a VACATION?
Jen
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For our honeymoon, my wife and I went to Riviera Maya in Mexico. No cell coverage. No TV in the room. Great way to "check out" and just relax. We didn't see anyone else in business mode either - everyone was relaxing.
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07-31-2008, 07:03 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: McMinnville...GO CATS!
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
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Originally Posted by Cat n Tat's Dusky
When I did my OR/WA vacation earlier this year, I brought clothes,camera, and cell phone for emergencies. Kept it shut off unless absolutely necessary.
It was reeeeealy relaxing, and the cute girl at the pizza place in Kelso made it that much better...the pizza was good too!
The world will not come to an end if you don't check in, and a company that requires me to check in every day when I am ON vacation......not good!
Speakin of which...time to start plannin this years trip!!!
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You vacationed in KELSO??
BU
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07-31-2008, 08:14 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
It's funny but everyplace I've gone on vacation for the last few years has no cell coverage and the places we stay never have wi-fi. At least that is the story the boss hears...
Who knew Gold Beach had no cell coverage????
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07-31-2008, 08:34 AM
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'Jumpin' Slugs'
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kelso, Wa
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
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Originally Posted by Big Unit
You vacationed in KELSO??
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Hehehehe Hey! There are things to see in Kelso!   Can I be one of them....
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07-31-2008, 08:45 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Oregon City
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Jen,
You'll have cell coverage at Diamond Lake if you're in the waterfront houses, but to get on the net you'll have to go up to the lobby. Don't ask me how I know this!
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07-31-2008, 09:04 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: westlinn
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Im with you on that. I misplaced my cell phone and was in absolute bliss for a few days. I like to strap on my back pack and head to the high mountian lakes and fly fish bare foot beneath three finger jack or mt jefferson. My children frolic in the cool mt streams build dams photograph wild life and seem very ready to do it when ever I offer. My only issue is the 80lb pack I must haul up to keep every one comfy and fed. My kids can only manage their sleeping bag and a change of clothes. I have been dreaming about taking some folks to the alpine lakes via pack horses or lama team to eleviate the sometimes grulling hike for my older relitives.
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07-31-2008, 10:10 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Forest Grove
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Vacation somewhere between Tillamook and Gales Creek  - no service on my phone. Use it for emergencies - there is an On/Off button on there somewhere. Isn't "vacationing with a cell phone" kind of like an oxymoron?
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07-31-2008, 10:31 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Redd
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Leave electronics at home.
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07-31-2008, 10:57 AM
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Cutthroat
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Oregon
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
get use to it. adapt. technology will continue to simplify our lives and make it more convenient for others to track us down. one day we will think of and reflect on the days of cell phones and laptops.
as one suggested take a vacation out of country. i was in europe not to long ago for work and had no access to teh intrawebs for three solid days. no cell phone except for a prepaid bought in germany that only rang once from a pending appointment.
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07-31-2008, 11:20 AM
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AdminiMom
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: North Coast
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Shut of the cell phone? Vacation without internet? OK!
Just dont complain if ifish goes down and you don't have it for two weeks!
Just remember... it was your idea! Bye, bye, now!
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07-31-2008, 11:20 AM
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AdminiMom
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: North Coast
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Wait a minute. I will be gone for 2 months.
See ya!
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07-31-2008, 11:21 AM
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AdminiMom
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: North Coast
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
muhahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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07-31-2008, 11:25 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Salem / Pacific City
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
When I see people on vacation doing business on a cell phone, my first thought is that they are probably one of two things. They are either at the bottom of the business food chain and must take calls while on vacation. Or they are simply bad at planning and or delegating. If they think it makes them look important to be poolside on a business call, they should know that it looks just the opposite...
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07-31-2008, 11:34 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SW Portland
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennie@ifish
Anyone have any tips on how to have a vacation, without taking your work with you?
Every family vacation I go on, people have cell phones laying around, and people talk business in the morning. It bugs me.
Last I went on vacation, a lady lying by the pool by me from Canada said, "What strikes me is that everyone here has cell phones. How do they relax? They are all talking business!" She said that folks where she live barely have cell phones, but everyone here does! That's a shame! What's it coming to?
But several people I know will get fired if they don't check in, electronically.
When I went to Black Butte, I had to go to the library in Sisters to check on ifish each morning.  Bummage! Everyone else was around the breakfast table. (Except the adults, who were on their cell phones! LOL)
So, how do you take vacation and make sure that it's a VACATION?
Jen
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It's hard for me to fathom workers getting fired for not checking in electronically. I think they need to renegotiate what a vacation is. A vacation is a BREAK from work, checking in on work IS WORK. That should be paid time, and if it's not, they need to manage thier boss better (IMHO). I'm guessing it's more a desire from the employee than a requirement from the "boss" to stay in touch.
I carry my cell phone for my convinience, not others. I pay for it. If I dont' want to answer it, that's my perogitive.
I usually tell my coworkers that I'm on vacation and can't be reached (If I don't answer their call, I "cant" be reached). I leave a message on my voicemail that I will be out of the office (often with a telephone number for a back-up coworker). And use the Out of Office message in outlook telling folks when I will be back. The only person that has my authorization to call me on vacation is my boss, and he knows that's only for REAL emergencies. Maybe I'm just lucky that way, but hasn't been a problem for me.
If someone feels they really can't get away and cut the strings, they need to work on delegation. If they feel they'll be replaced if they are not checking in, then they have bigger problems with their career that need to be addressed.
-= Scott
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07-31-2008, 02:36 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: May 2006
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
It's funny how people think this is a problem when they create it themselves. I do not own a cell phone and I have no plans to. My wife
would love for me to get one but that's one of the reasons I don't!
She says "but I can reach you anytime, in case I need you to pick something up on the way home". Uh.........that's precisely why I don't have a cell phone, I don't want to be reached. So, if you don't want to be reached, then turn it off, it's quite simple. Everyone loves ifish.net but we lived without it for years and if for some reason you are unavailable to fix an issue, oh well, we'll live.
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07-31-2008, 04:13 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: westlinn
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarySt
It's funny how people think this is a problem when they create it themselves. I do not own a cell phone and I have no plans to. My wife
would love for me to get one but that's one of the reasons I don't!
She says "but I can reach you anytime, in case I need you to pick something up on the way home". Uh.........that's precisely why I don't have a cell phone, I don't want to be reached. So, if you don't want to be reached, then turn it off, it's quite simple. Everyone loves ifish.net but we lived without it for years and if for some reason you are unavailable to fix an issue, oh well, we'll live.
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I think if I didnt have one I might never come home  I might be drivin home form work one day and just keep driving rather than picking up some french bread for dinner i"ll just head south toward mexico and start a cold beer and fishin pole rentals shop for the second half of my life  ahhh that darn cell phone been holding me back.
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07-31-2008, 04:29 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Lebanon, Oregon
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
One remote word.
ALASKA.
lol.
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07-31-2008, 07:12 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orting, WA
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Rivers Inlet, when I was there only satelite phones worked, and there was no internet, only fishing, eating, and the telling of a few sea stories
Steve/RR
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07-31-2008, 09:34 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
A few years ago we went to Kona Village in Hawaii and it was Da"Bomb
High end place with no TV's, phones, radios, computers, or personal cell phones and laptops are strongly discouraged . We stayed 6 nights and we didn't see any cell phones or laptops. KonaVillage is known as a place to totally unplug, drink sit on the beach, do some hiking drink mai-thai on a shipwreckd boat turned bar on the beach and just recharge the batteries. You are seriously pampered and the food/wine is just killer. Kinda spendy...but if you are looking to do some serious unplugging, the place is Kona Village Resort.
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08-01-2008, 08:02 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Colton
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
Where do Hawaiians vacation ?
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08-03-2008, 07:12 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Newport, Washington
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
This is kinda funny but I actually look for places with Cell service to vacation. I want to be in contact. I want people to contact me if they need something or are sick or have troubles or successes to talk about.
I know a person that went on vacation for two weeks back packing and his mom and 5 year old son was in a car wreck the day he and his wife left. His mother was killed and his son was hurt bad. They did not know for two weeks. It was sad, the 5 year old needed his dad and mom real bad. This was before the internet and cell phones but it left a need in my belly to be in contact at all times in case I am needed.
Leaving home with out my cell phone is like leaving the house without my pants. It just ain't gonna happen.
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08-04-2008, 05:56 AM
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AdminiMom
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: North Coast
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
With both Roo and my condition, it's kinda like that for me, too. Due to medical problems and potential emergencies, I want to know!
But, then again, it's also ifish. I can delegate most of it, but some I just can't. It's really tough to get people to do what I do unless I pay them, which I can rarely do because of financial reasons.
The reason I started this was to discuss how YOU all do it, as the article I read on CNN was so interesting.
Interesting responses here, too!
J
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08-04-2008, 08:15 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Astoria, Oregon
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Re: Vacation, unplugged
There is a HUGE difference in calling to check in at work or knowing that your familiy can reach you when they need you. If you don't own the company, don't call in! In my opinion you should never not be in contact with your family. Too many things can happen, good or bad. Family always comes first whether I'm on vacation or not!
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