Next Saturday where would you fish?

[Pilar]

Anyone going out for TUNA next weekend? Anyone have any clue where to look?

I'm hoping for something a little closer than Westport.

[KeyWest]

Originally Posted by Pilar

Anyone going out for TUNA next weekend? Anyone have any clue where to look?

I'm hoping for something a little closer than Westport.

CR was good over the weekend - can even get live bait in Ilwaco. Oh, and did I mention Halibut is open on Friday / Saturday as well?

[CATCH AND EAT]

I hear the Rainbow Trout Farm now has good numbers of fish available. sight fishing at it's best on lite gear and cheap bait. Just bring your own rock.


Dean, how many times do I have to tell you. There are no fish off the CR. Zero, nada, nothing. A barren waste land of sunken ships with pirates running amuck and vermin wandering the docks. If it were me I'd just go to the trout farm.

[Sea Jypzee]

Holy cow, where was that WARM water 2 days ago.

[Pilar]

Key West do you know the live bait situation in Ilwaco? Will they sell to just Joe off the street or do you have to know someone to get bait? Do you have to call and get a reservation?

Just want to know how much to count on it.

[CATCH AND EAT]

$25 bucks a scoup. Get there before 5 when the charters usually show up. 4:30 worked perfect for me. 2 scoups filled my 32 gallon tank big time.

[kennyg]

Think they are still at the 45/126 line about 95 miles from Newport.

Originally Posted by Pilar

Anyone going out for TUNA next weekend? Anyone have any clue where to look?

I'm hoping for something a little closer than Westport.

[sturgn]

I will be running out of Newport or Depoe and heading NW, hope they are there(I think they are) I will head toward tuna town. The latest free SST shows some pretty fishing looking water(Well to me anyway) at the 61 spot.

[skein]

I would fish right where you did last weekend. It's gonna be different water this time. That's where I'm figuring on heading.

N44 50
W 124 40

Sound familiar?

Skein

[sturgn]

[Elkiller]

I'm looking at Coos Bay pretty hard. Good chloro look and good temps out past 125 20. CR had good water as well but Coos is a shorter drive for me.

[SecondSeason]

bait number is 503-741-3797

they were very excited when i told them on sunday morning about saterdays run.

if you call ahead they you should have a good feeling on their stocks. we baited up on sunday at 6:30 am without problems.

when the local charters start running tuna trips that is when supplys might dip.

Happy hunting....buy plenty of bait so you don't run out.

[Irish Pennant]

I was looking at the CR for sat but there's a big morning tide swing and leaving before day break would be in the plan. I don't know the CR any where as well as some here so I'm very cautious when it comes to ebb tides and crossing the CR. I would rather cross when I can see so I'll wait another week for a better tide set. It will be Depoe Bay for me this Saturday.
For my education will the more experienced CR skippers double check with what I'm seeing as far as the tides go and a first light crossing.

[StickFish]

Pilar, we were thinking the CR and they will sell bait to any old Joe, Mike Ted or Jack. Like Bernie says be early. E0 was also cheaper at Ilwaco than Newport.

[KeyWest]

Originally Posted by Pilar

Key West do you know the live bait situation in Ilwaco? Will they sell to just Joe off the street or do you have to know someone to get bait? Do you have to call and get a reservation?

Just want to know how much to count on it.

They only sell to folks that have a few pictures of George Washington or a couple of other dead presidents

[CATCH AND EAT]

Originally Posted by KeyWest

They only sell to folks that have a few pictures of George Washington or a couple of other dead presidents

But no dead inventors unless you are buying 4 scoups.

[Spoonplugger]

Originally Posted by Pilar

Anyone going out for TUNA next weekend? Anyone have any clue where to look?

I'm hoping for something a little closer than Westport.

44:00 125:15 both clean and warm. From there go W, S or SW not too much N. About 63nm from Newport.

[Pilar]

Dang I forgot about the big ebb tide. Wish I could get a report between now and then to seal the deal. We are due for central coast fish. The July 4th (tuna) weekend just happened this last weekend .. I figure we are three - four weeks late and have heard the same from others.

[Dan9113]

Latest chloro shot is looking better at 45 line out about 145 50 line. Looks more like a three where we looked at the 12-14 friday night. There are a few spots of 1 mixed in. Poor shot but able to get a little recon from it.

I think we will have fish out of Newport by the weekend.

Dan

[ron m]

Well, it's Newport for me and I hope for tuna. But it's too early to tell, at least for me. I'll go by what I see on terrafin. I want clearer water than the soup I saw in person last Friday. It was warm enough, just barely, but enough, but it was way too murky. Conditions change so much in just one day that calling it now, 3 or 4 days prior, is just too iffy. We may be due, but i don't think it's just a matter of being 3 or 4 weeks late, it's a matter of a different set of conditons: ocean, currents, weather, jetstream, and probably others that have big effects on where the warm water is and goes and how clear it is. But regardless it's Newport for me, the question for me is if tuna will be on the agenda.
ron m

[Mypursuit]

Originally Posted by Sea Jypzee

Holy

See that blood red water off Tillamook Bay that starts about the 124.35 line?

If you look real close you will see an Arima with 2guys, 4 rods and a big cooler on deck.....

[retaliate]

Originally Posted by skein

I would fish right where you did last weekend. It's gonna be different water this time. That's where I'm figuring on heading.

N44 50
W 124 40

Sound familiar?

Skein

I agree with Skein, we just had bad timing, probably be plenty of fish between Area 61 to Tuna Town, & all around, I wish I could go this weekend, but will have to wait til next week, good Luck where ever you go.

[Mark Mc]

I'd put the boat on the trailer and go to Little Italy.

Yes eventually they will show up within 40 miles of Depoe. But what if they don't, for another 3 weeks? When you know for certain where they are.

Unless a person is just dying to be the first one to catch a boatload out of Depoe...

[Spoonplugger]

Originally Posted by Spoonplugger

44:00 125:15 both clean and warm. From there go W, S or SW not too much N. About 63nm from Newport.

The latest SST shows the warmer water my be headed N. Good news. Ron m has it right--it can change from day to day. If it was Friday today and tomorrow was Saturday there would be no question in my crazy mind. It would be good to compare the latest chlorophyll with this shot. South at the 44 line and slightly North looks excellent. I would go this weekend but have other plans in Portland.

http://coastwatch.pfel.noaa.gov/cwbr...10_2118_n18_wn

[Dylan]

Like the previous guys said, hopefully the ocean changes, gets warmer and clearer. I'm fishing this wknd and reallly hoping for some good tuna water out of Newport.

If it doesn't, road trip??? Or, maybe based on the attached data from coast watch, go for a combo trip. halibut at the ranch + tuna.

take some time with this attachment. it shows water temps and chloro. Yes, it's out of date (July 26). I'll be printing this combo AND the individual chloros and SSTs before I leave. Gas is too expensive not go with all the data!!
Dylan

[Fatdad]

The latest SST on Terra has 59.9 water at 45 09/124 55 28nm. That is looking pretty good. If we don't get a big blow tomorrow it could warm up even more. Maybe some of those Little Italy fish would move down. Just a thought.

[ChrisCurtis]

Originally Posted by Irish Pennant

I was looking at the CR for sat but there's a big morning tide swing and leaving before day break would be in the plan. I don't know the CR any where as well as some here so I'm very cautious when it comes to ebb tides and crossing the CR. I would rather cross when I can see so I'll wait another week for a better tide set. It will be Depoe Bay for me this Saturday.
For my education will the more experienced CR skippers double check with what I'm seeing as far as the tides go and a first light crossing.

IP,
I am not a skipper but have made many bar crossings and have figured CR tides for years. You are correct, Saturday morning 8/2 is a serious ebb tide at about 8amish, 10.8ft swing as I figure it.
Better to wait for the incoming or for a different weekend, definitely not good for an early am/first light crossing!!

[KeyWest]

Report from today (Sniper):

46-10 X 125-12. 40 Fish. Good blue water into the 124-48 (but didn't fish it).

[CrazyFish]

Latest Chlo. shot is looking like some blue water out of Garibaldi at the 125 30.

[FASTWATER]

Dean I stopped on the 124.47 over 46.17 yesterday on jumpers water was clean and 60.5 we caught a bunch before I moved out a little further! you got crew on Friday I was thinking butts on the inside spot,I got that spot dialed!!!Pilar come on up to the CR I will give you the tour!!!PEACE

[boelkhtr]

I just might be setting on my bum looking at the sea charts and wishing i could get out.

Lost a cog on the top end of the outdrive, took the bottom with it, its in the hands of the insurance and the mech. One day I will be out there you guys get them for me.

Herman

[Fshklr]

surely wouldn't waste anytime at the peaks specifically the crack...$250 down the tubes chasing that red herring

[Coastalfisherman]

My plan is to head to Nelsons Island and get our halibut then make a decision to go north or south from there. There is good water outside and SW of the ranch, but who knows where that will be by the time this weekend rolls around.

[TROPHY1]

I'm asking the same question. hav'nt fished the CR in quite a few years, it's alwayls been golden for me from Gari to Depoe. Looking for Friday and Sat. Todays Terrifin is hot water off Gari & Depoe just no Blue water shot.
I'll wait to see what the next day or two shows.

[KeyWest]

Originally Posted by FASTWATER

Dean I stopped on the 124.47 over 46.17 yesterday on jumpers water was clean and 60.5 we caught a bunch before I moved out a little further! you got crew on Friday I was thinking butts on the inside spot,I got that spot dialed!!!Pilar come on up to the CR I will give you the tour!!!PEACE

Current plan is to run both Fri and Sat. Get live bait from Ilwaco, then run for fresh halibat bait - I mean tuna. Load the boat with those critters, then stop for Halibut on the way in. Seems to be a pretty good plan most days.

[Pilar]

Dean can you help us out with a little local knowledge? What do you think about the big ebb in the morning on CR? Go early and miss it or ?

[colbachlaw]

I am running out of the CR.

Tide is not great in the am, but unless the bar is horrible when I go out to take a look, I am headed out to the 125 line with 2 scoops of bait. It takes a pretty ugly bar to stop 13 tons and a deep V hull.

So far the Ilwaco livebait place has been great and happy to have my business. I will call ahead to make sure, as livebait was the hot ticket last week.

Mike C

[KeyWest]

Originally Posted by Pilar

Dean can you help us out with a little local knowledge? What do you think about the big ebb in the morning on CR? Go early and miss it or ?

Hmm.... I'm probably not the one to be answering this question. I usually error on the side of going out to see what it looks like. But, my analysis....

Current: Max ebb on Saturday of 4.6 knots at 0603 is flying. It can still be flat calm if there is no ocean energy pushing in.

Forecast for Saturday:

SAT
NW WIND 10 TO 15 KT. WIND WAVES 2 FT. W SWELL 5 FT.

And the swell is decreasing from Wed (7'), Thur (6'), down to 5' on Friday / saturday. Wind & swell will be from the NW.



So, If I were predicting what the bar will be like on Saturday at around 4:30A:

• Current will be flying. Less than 4.6 knots but still moving.
• North side will be unpassable (and you really never want to go there on an ebb unless you have a death wish).
• Main channel will be iffy to unpassable - red line until 6 might be an option but from 8 to 6 - well I wouldn't plan on that.
• Clatsop spit along the jetty will likely be the only option. This means leave Ilwaco and shoot over to B10 and look south.

My plan is as follows:

• Get bait as early as they are willing to show up. The earlier they show up, the further away from max ebb we will be.
• Motor out to B10 and look. If there is a swell pushing in at 10 that is noticable (like 2' or better), then I will hold off until I can see to the jetty (5A) so as not to get caught by a breaker comming in on the spit (been there, done that).
• No noticable swell at 10 - shoot across to the jetty and out.

I will be attempting a crossing on Friday at the same time, and thus closer to max ebb. So if I can make it across on Friday, I'm sure Saturday will be fine.

I realize this doesn't help much in your planning process. But if we have enough boats I'm sure we could convince him to open earlier (like 3A) which would put us well within the safety zone as slack water is 3A. That would put us crossing the bar around 3:30A. If your nervous about running Ilwaco channel in the dark - just follow along.

I also always error on the side of going earlier rather than later.

My - but not a scientific analysis.

[Pilar]

Key West wow great analysis. The advice I got a long time ago about CR was don't run it on an ebb. Ilwaco channel has probably changed since I ran it last but it wasn't too bad.

Thanks for the detailed info.

[CATCH AND EAT]

Just dont' cut close to the dolphin markers on the green side heading out. And at the gates of Ilwaco you definitly want to stay a little closer to the red dolphins as the channel has silted in and they have placed mini lighted Nun buoys smack dab in the center. Other than that you are good to go.

[skahorse]

I'm tempted to trailer up to Garibaldi, but with my work schedule, it'll be tough to get there before 8AM Saturday morning.

As others have said, the latest SSTs look promising for central coast TUNA, which makes sense now that the North wind has disappeared for the time being... However, looks like Wetsand is calling for the North wind to return by Thursday/Friday.

I have to think the North wind is causing not only the cold temps, but the dirty ocean that others have been reporting as well. If we could just get the wind machine to shut off for a solid week or two, we'd have fish.

I'm holding out for central coast at this point...

Ska