CCA Salty Dogs Chapter info and meeting

[Gun Rod Bow]

Yesterday it was asked by Kerry if there could be a Salty Dogs "Chapter" for CCA.

I said I would do my due dilligence with the CCA members involved in chapter developement and our state President etc.

I have done all that, and here is how it would work...

If you join CCA you will "officially belong" to the chapter that covers your zip code. But if the Salty Dogs, or any other group want to meet separately, do whatever they want, they can go nuts.

Have their own meetings, have a BBQ, beer bash, tuna carking competition (save me some bellies please)

We already have the precedent for that here in Oregon and other areas.

Please understand when people have questions about what CCA is or is not, that CCA is our members. Period. With guidelines from a national organization. That's it.

Myself and a bunch of other hard working folks that want to see fisheries thrive in our children's and grandchildren's futures got together and make up CCA-OR.

A futher question was asked about getting together over a frosty beverage for a face to face meeting with some folks from CCA.

We are all for that. Way prefer that to this actually. I think folks communicate better when they see each other.

So, Beaverton, Hilsboro, Salem, Grande Ronde...this week. One evening...next week...you guys who want to meet decide and we'll be there. Done deal.

Bring your questions. Say hi to some of us. Let us know if you see pointy horns or tails anywhere.

[Moldy45]

If you join CCA you will "officially belong" to the chapter that covers your zip code. But if the Salty Dogs, or any other group want to meet separately, do whatever they want, they can go nuts.

Bruce I am fuzzy on this one.
We would belong to our local chapter and meet where ever we want but how do we collectively convey our message if we disperse from our meetings and not be recognized as a chapter?

[Sea Jypzee]

This all sounds good Bruce.

Question - You say

If you join CCA you will "officially belong" to the chapter that covers your zip code.

So, living down here on the coast where there is no chapter that covers my zip, would I just join chapterless?

Will you be at the Hammond OTC event in (now less than) 2 weeks? Just thinking perhaps this would be a good opportunity to hold a sort of informal meeting/chat session that you were talking about? Though, admittedly I'm hoping we'll actually get to fish this event and won't have much extra time.

[Chromaflage]

OK, since I started this mess, I throw out a suggestion - how about this Thursday, McMennimins in Hillsboro on Cornelius Pass @ 6:30 PM?

I do have some questions about your chapter descriptions, Bruce. You say we would belong to the CCA chapter that covers our zip code, but we can meet independently as a group. How does that work? We can discuss later if more appropriate.

I too have the same questions as above. It would be nice to have a SD chapter that is somewhat autonomous from other geographical chapters....for leadership, fundraising, etc.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by Sea Jypzee

This all sounds good Bruce.

Question - You say So, living down here on the coast where there is no chapter that covers my zip, would I just join chapterless?

Actually Nancy you would currently be in the Tillamook Chapter if you live in Depoe Bay or Newport.

What should happen eventually is that there is let's say a Newport Chapter (they don't have to be big or involved trust me) and if Skein from Sweet Home wants to participate in the Newport chapter, or if Moldy from Mac wants to be the rep to the Oregon GRC for the Newport chapter, or if Nalu who lives in Beaverton part time wants to be President of the Newport chapter and be on the state board...then do it.

CCA is the members, with some guidlines. We can work out the details.

Will you be at the Hammond OTC event in (now less than) 2 weeks? Just thinking perhaps this would be a good opportunity to hold a sort of informal meeting/chat session that you were talking about? Though, admittedly I'm hoping we'll actually get to fish this event and won't have much extra time.

I hope we can meet before that, and I'm afraid if I go to the OTC event in Hammond I'll end up all bloody and carking tuna for 3 hours...(been there)

I hope we can put something together before that.

[Moldy45]

Moldy from Mac

that is fightin words Bruce!

[skein]

Chrome, I can't go this Thursday. I'm commited to go to the Linn-Benton chapter meeting at Joes in Albany. It would be a shame to pull people away from their event (already planned) to jump to another. However, I REALLY want to meet with the 'Dogs and discuss, or form, a Salty Dog Chapter. Can we do another day?

Skein

[Chromaflage]

I just threw it out there - nothing hard and fast. Maybe next week would be better - Wed or Thursday at the same place and time? I'm not stuck on the locale either - if there's some place along the I-5 corridor that works, let's pick a place and go. I'm flexible Mon-Thurs next week.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by Moldy45

Moldy from Mac

that is fightin words Bruce!

You work in Mac goofy.

I appologize for any slight that I may have inferred toward the wonderful Berg of New.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by skein

Chrome, I can't go this Thursday. I'm commited to go to the Linn-Benton chapter meeting at Joes in Albany. It would be a shame to pull people away from their event (already planned) to jump to another. However, I REALLY want to meet with the 'Dogs and discuss, or form, a Salty Dog Chapter. Can we do another day?

Skein

Salem area could get Jim and still get some folks from PDX area, maybe even a carpool from the coast. What about Grande Ronde?

[ron m]

Originally Posted by skein

Chrome, I can't go this Thursday. I'm commited to go to the Linn-Benton chapter meeting at Joes in Albany. It would be a shame to pull people away from their event (already planned) to jump to another. However, I REALLY want to meet with the 'Dogs and discuss, or form, a Salty Dog Chapter. Can we do another day?

Skein

Hmm, I'm looking at the CCA website and see chapters in:
Columbia County
Emerald Empire, aka Eugene/Springfield
Mt. Hood
Portland Metro
Tillamook
Salem
Tualatin Valley
Willamette Falls

So, Jim, is the Linn-Benton chapter having it's first meeting this Thurs at Joes in Albany? I wonder how many other chapters have formed that are not yet listed on the CCA OR site.

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this Thurs. I'll be at a meeting and will be busy countering info give by a rep from OUR OCEAN.
ron m

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by ron m

Hmm, I'm looking at the CCA website and see chapters in:
Columbia County
Emerald Empire, aka Eugene/Springfield
Mt. Hood
Portland Metro
Tillamook
Salem
Tualatin Valley
Willamette Falls

So, Jim, is the Linn-Benton chapter having it's first meeting this Thurs at Joes in Albany? I wonder how many other chapters have formed that are not yet listed on the CCA OR site.

Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this Thurs. I'll be at a meeting and will be busy countering info give by a rep from OUR OCEAN.
ron m

There is a chapter officially in Pendleton, but they are small and just getting rolling. I think there is either one in Bend or about to be, not sure.

A couple more in the talking stages. We have members all over the state though. And even the Portland Metro area will likely divide down into some smaller chapters.

The Linn-Benton Chapter became official yesterday at the state board meeting. They are now organizing and selecting officers etc.

Our website is hanging in there, but I had a few conversations today about the rework of an Oregon (not PNW) site. My wife will be helping with that actually.

If it gets done in 90 days I'll be amazed.

Have you ever tried to get things done in a group of volunteers? I have. Not as fast as being a business owner. But I can tell you, our board meeting yesterday was exciting. Lots of things happening and getting done. It has been about a year, and we are starting to fire on all cylinders.

[stream]

Originally Posted by Moldy45

Moldy from Mac

that is fightin words Bruce!

Some times I wonder if you didn't fall and hit your head on a rock ( but I still like ya )

We can't even make up our minds where to meet lets get dates that work and get it done please before Tuna gets here

[Jerry Dove]

Originally Posted by Gun Rod Bow

There is a chapter officially in Pendleton, but they are small and just getting rolling. I think there is either one in Bend or about to be, not sure.

A couple more in the talking stages. We have members all over the state though. And even the Portland Metro area will likely divide down into some smaller chapters.

The Linn-Benton Chapter became official yesterday at the state board meeting. They are now organizing and selecting officers etc.

Our website is hanging in there, but I had a few conversations today about the rework of an Oregon (not PNW) site. My wife will be helping with that actually.

If it gets done in 90 days I'll be amazed.

Have you ever tried to get things done in a group of volunteers? I have. Not as fast as being a business owner. But I can tell you, our board meeting yesterday was exciting. Lots of things happening and getting done. It has been about a year, and we are starting to fire on all cylinders.

Bruce you are doing a great job, keep it up. Yes volunteers work slow at times but oh boy we do get a lot done. JD

[Chromaflage]

Let's try this -


Elmers in Woodburn - just West of the freeway. Tuesaday July 22 @ 6:30 PM?

[skein]

Elmer's Woodburn. I'm there. Way to go, Kerry.

Skein

[stream]

Count me in to

[Chromaflage]

Sweet! Bruce, will you be able to make it? I took the liberty of sending the preliminary information to the Keep Oregon Fishing group.

Thanks

Kerry

[KeyWest]

Count me in.

[Packy]

I have a stupid question. Why does a group called The Coast Conservation Association, key word COAST here, only have one chapter on the coast? LOL! There needs to be a Central Oregon Coast Chapter and it should not matter what your zip code is. You join where ever you want to be involved. Im just trying to think logicaly. Maybe Im stupid or at least confused. I dont understand. Why cant you be a member where ever you want. IMO there should be a North Oregon Coast Chapter, Central Oregon Coast Chapter and a Southern Oregon Coast Chapter,and you should be able to join what ever one you want, regardless of where you live. As long as you are willing to travel there to be involved. With key meeting places in towns like Astoria, Newport and Coos Bay. Does this make any since to anyone, or am I, way out there with my thinking? LOL!

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by Packy

I have a stupid question. Why does a group called The Coast Conservation Association, key word COAST here, only have one chapter on the coast? LOL! There needs to be a Central Oregon Coast Chapter and it should not matter what your zip code is. You join where ever you want to be involved. Im just trying to think logicaly. Maybe Im stupid or at least confused. I dont understand. Why cant you be a member where ever you want. IMO there should be a North Oregon Coast Chapter, Central Oregon Coast Chapter and a Southern Oregon Coast Chapter,and you should be able to join what ever one you want, regardless of where you live. As long as you are willing to travel there to be involved. With key meeting places in towns like Astoria, Newport and Coos Bay. Does this make any since to anyone, or am I, way out there with my thinking? LOL!

If there were like 5 members in the state...we could be anything.

As the membership in any area grows, a critical mass is found and a chapter is formed. The Linn-Benton guys have been coming to Salem. As of yesterday, there is now a new Linn-Benton chapter forming and selecting board members and officers etc. Let's say there gets to be 1,000 members in that area, the L-B chapter may split and a Corvalis chapter is formed.

There are a lot of Newport area fishers who attend the Salem meetings. But technically, the coast from Tillamook South is in the Tillamook chapter.

We have some active folks in Florence and more coming on line in Coos Bay. I'm sure those areas will have chapters before long. And as those chapters are formed, they get a seat at the state board meetings, and can have a member on the GRC bringing their regions concerns to the state.

With all this talk about the Salty guys, what I hope is that salty folks from all over the state (like my buddy the life member from Prineville) can start educating the rest of the CCA members as to their concerns, and learning about others.

Ain't it cool?

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by skein

Elmer's Woodburn. I'm there. Way to go, Kerry.

Skein

Me too. I'll let the others know.

[Chromaflage]

Done! Thanks, Bruce!!!

[pearl]

If there were like 5 members in the state...we could be anything.

As the membership in any area grows, a critical mass is found and a chapter is formed. The Linn-Benton guys have been coming to Salem. As of yesterday, there is now a new Linn-Benton chapter forming and selecting board members and officers etc. Let's say there gets to be 1,000 members in that area, the L-B chapter may split and a Corvalis chapter is formed.

There are a lot of Newport area fishers who attend the Salem meetings. But technically, the coast from Tillamook South is in the Tillamook chapter.

We have some active folks in Florence and more coming on line in Coos Bay. I'm sure those areas will have chapters before long. And as those chapters are formed, they get a seat at the state board meetings, and can have a member on the GRC bringing their regions concerns to the state.

With all this talk about the Salty guys, what I hope is that salty folks from all over the state (like my buddy the life member from Prineville) can start educating the rest of the CCA members as to their concerns, and learning about others.

Ain't it cool?

Dead on GRB.

I'm glad there is some interest from the Dog community. I can tell you that I belong to the chapter in my zip but attend other chapter meetings from time to time just to see what the others are doing and hopefully educate myself.

My initial thought is that if your from the valley as an example your would be initially appointed to your zips chapter but as a Salty influence grows you could work in unison under the CCA guide lines to enhance the fisheries you have a passion for and shape the direction of the salty fisherman.

Steve

[Packy]

Well when there is a Newport area chapter or Central oregon Coast chapter, and I can join it regardless of my zip code. I will join. I live in La Pine and I would have to travel anyway. My boat will be moored in Newport. So thats where I want to see a chapter formed. I think in the past, the areas that have chapters, Its been mostly all about the protecting the river fisheries IMO, with places like Tillamook area having 5 rivers and then thier is all the guys and gals on the Columbia and the Willamette rivers that sounds like the majority up to this point. With us Saltwater guys here and there. With most of the issues being addressed and money spent on river fishing related issues. I may be wrong, and please, correct me if I am. From all I have seen, and read though thats what it looks like right now. Thats why us saltwater guys need to get it together and get chapters in areas of key fishing ports. Like Newport,Garibaldi,Hammond,Charlston,Depoe Bay,PC,ect. The North, Central and South coast chapters sounds like the best way to get the numbers for membership and our concerns addressed. As the river guys have been doing. I am willing to help with this cause to get this done. Just let me know what I can do to help. I think we could become a very powerful voice in the CCA, if us saltwater guys get are heads together and get real Coast chapters formed. Not being spread all over the state and helping the with mostly the river issues, and throwing the saltwater fisherman a bone once in a while. Don't get me wrong those are good issues. The ocean fisheries are too and needs the same focus and help that you have been giving the river fisheries, if not more right now. Lets get some real Coast Chapters formed so we have some real power in what issues, we would like to see addressed. Not side meetings away from the regular CCA meetings, and then go back to our CCA chapters and try to get our voice heard as saltwater fisherman. I dont even like the sound of that. Thats not a united effort in my opinion. C'mon Salty Dogs Lets Get Busy! Lets Make It A Real CCA With Chapters Up and Down The Coast.

[hookup1]

As I said in another thread I am on the Board of the Rogue Valley chapter of CCA and all of us board members are Salt water lovers so our agenda includes The coast. It doesnot matter where the group is the consensus of the group leads to the problems you present to the State level for work. But A good strong group on the coast would go a long ways. Just have to get it put together it is all volunteer remember. STEVE

[Gun Rod Bow]

Originally Posted by hookup1

As I said in another thread I am on the Board of the Rogue Valley chapter of CCA and all of us board members are Salt water lovers so our agenda includes The coast. It doesnot matter where the group is the consensus of the group leads to the problems you present to the State level for work. But A good strong group on the coast would go a long ways. Just have to get it put together it is all volunteer remember. STEVE

Great point.

I'd also like to add, the Salty Guys supporting a Newport or Hammond or Florence or Coos Bay chapter is fine if that's what you want to do.

But, instead of sticking to your own...you might consider reaching out to the other chapters, educate the inland folks on your saltwater issues, and we can all work together.

Strength in numbers folks. That is what is going to make it work.

You might be surprised how interested and willing inland folks are to help you with your issues, and maybe someday vice-versa.

This whole effort is the result of a few CCA members bringing saltwater issues to the state board and the state board of CCA reaching out a hand to you.

Oh and Packy, I have a good friend in Prineville who is a life member of CCA (joined before I did actually). He is an avid tuna fisherman, and a fishing guide. I doubt he will ever attend a chapter meeting anywhere. But he sees the sense of fishers all over Oregon banding together. Just a thought.

[Chromaflage]

Bruce, I am putting together a presentation outlining a proposal for a potential structure. I will present this and we can discuss on Tuesday. Some good ideas here, though.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Somehow we need to get an idea of a head count. I'll handle my side, if the Dogs can give me a guess, I'd appreciate it.

If it is more than 20 ish we may need to adjust the location a tiny bit. I have some ideas.

Head count first.

Kerry, maybe you can have folks PM you and get me a number???

[pnwcoast]

I believe the MR's have awakened a sleeping giant. How can I help.

[Bent tip]

I am interested in a Salty Dog chapter, but will be unable to attend the meeting due to family vacation. Please keep us informed on what happens at the meeting. Yeah, like information isn't exchanged here