Tell me I am not crazy

Or not too crazy.

I will have some money coming for a boat in a few months and the boats that I want are all on the east coast. I have two airplane tickets and lots of time.

Would it be a good idea to run a 22'-26' boat from Florida to Oregon via the Panama Canal or is it too much?

I could also drive back east and tow it back but would rather go by water.

Would anyone here want to go for a long boat ride with some stop overs for fishing?

[Miss B Haven]

If we weren't all crazy, we would be insane (Buffet, Jimmy not Warren.) When are we leaving ? (not sure I care when we get back!). You got any Marlin/Saifish gear ?

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Threemuch]

You're crazy. They cut the cabin off BIG boats to move them from one coast to another by truck rather than through the canal. Besides 1000s in fuel, and living aboard a tiny boat for weeks, you would be navigating some poorly protected waters (pirates) and would not be able to get much help if you have mechanical or other (health?) problems. The trip has got to be 5000 miles. What do you think the toll is on that canal?

But man, what an adventure. It's fun to dream.

[Pilar]

Keta, I drove my wreck back from N. Florida back in '96. 4 days, 2 drivers and $$$ in gas.

The memories are priceless :grin:

[avid]

What boats are you looking at?

Here is the log from a couple that traveled in a 48' trawler from California to Florida. It's good place to start your planning.

http://www.his.com/~vann/KrgStuff/Cal2Fla.htm

It costs $550 to transit the canal and most people nowadays pay a broker to handle the arrangements and provide the pilot or guide. That probably would cost another $500.

http://www.worldheadquarters.com/panama/canal_transit/

That would be the least of your problems. <g> It's a serious trip even on a big boat! But that is what dreams are all about. Now call a trucking outfit and ask how much it would cost to haul that boat to Oregon. Otherwise, you could motor to somewhere in Texas on the Intracostal and trailer from there.

[avid]

I found this article on long distance boat shopping from a Surveyor in the panhandle of Florida. This is one of many interesting articles on his website.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/long_dist...t_shopping.htm

Here is a controversial article where he recommends against diesel engines on any boat under 35' or 16,000 #. It's just his opinion.
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/GasDiesel.htm

avid,

22'-26' Shamrock cutty or mackinaw.

Used Shamrock boats

Thanks for the links :smile:

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[corky23]

Have you looked at radon boats? they are made on the west coast and there are a few on the boat trader. I like to look even though i cant afford one, yet.
later
kris myers

I WANT A SHAMROCK!!!!

There were two in Ketchikan and I was impresed with the way they handled. They are an inboard with a reduction gear and a keel. They handle bad water well and track extremely well.

[avid]

My short list:

Davis
Skipjack
Osprey- subject to more research

After recommending the David Pascoe articles yesterday, I went back and read everything on his site. It's enough to scare me into not buying a boat. Unless I buy a Bertram or Blackfin which he thinks are bulletproof. I had almost been convinced by boat salesmen that what I wanted in boat construction wasn't necessary until I read those articles.

[Threemuch]

Avid-
Why isn't sea sport on your short list? I have ridden on all three of the boats that you are talking about: a 24 Osprey, a 26 Rock Harbor, a 25 Skipjack. Great boats, all. Fit and finish comparable. Big, heavy, smooth riding boats.

I think Sea sport is in the same class as well, and I have fished from a 22 XL.

Premium Boat=Premium Price, you sure put together an expensive list.

Keta, occasionally a shammy comes up for sale around here. I have one friend in CA who runs a 17 CC shammy and loves it. And I saw a 26' cuddy for sale in Santa Cruz a year back.

If you take a shamrock throught the canal, get the company to foot your bill, and use you for advertising. I would guess it's never happened before.

KB

[avid]

Kurt,

I sea trialed a brand new SeaSport Explorer during a Salmon Tournament outside Golden Gate a couple of weeks ago. The cockpit was almost completely taken up by the engine cowling. There weren't any built-in handholds in places there should have been. The walkaround is strange; you are outside the rail until crossing in front of the cabin. Most importantly my wife didn't like it.<g> It was also balsa cored and I don't want a balsa cored hull. That was the way I felt before reading David Pascoe's website and now even more so. Despite one of SeaSports VPs telling me they have never had any problems.

My wife is driving the list of boats. I want an open fisherman with a t-top. She wants a cuddy/cruiser. It has to be major sea worthy, not lose its value in a few years and be trailerable. That's a tough set of criteria to fill.

I would love to hear your impressions of the Skipjack. TIA

[Popeye]

KB, I agree with you. I have a 47 and would not even think about doing the ditch.

[Longfin]

Avid - Wheres the link to the David Pascoe articles. I have a c-dory and am looking to get something a little faster. I always thought sea sports and ospreys were pretty close in design and construction. How come grady white or boston whaler is not on anyones list.

[avid]

Fred,

I am warning you about this website. It's going to change how you look at boats. This guy is hard core. I think years as a surveyor have made him cynical. Maybe that's a good thing.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/

Whaler was on my list until I tried to buy one after the Seattle boat show. That is my second shot at buying from Trudeau's and my last. I think I was dealing with a new salesperson that is no longer there. If you are interested in Whalers there is a dealer in Florida, near the factory, that sells them right.

[Threemuch]

Pascoe. Before you read his stuff, keep in mind, that if you aren't buying a hatteras or a bertram, you are buying junk.

www.yachtsurvey.com

He writes a pretty scathing review of a Shamrock that I believe ends in "nice try."

Gradys...I have rode on a 22 cuddy (I think the model was seafairer) and a 27 sailfish. Big heavy cuddys. My big complaint is that they rode very wet. Smooth, but wet. Even the 27. Who wants a big boat that rides wet?

Whalers. Many of my friends in CA own them and swear by them and their unsinkability. Of course, I only know one person who actually had a boat sink, and that was a *** starcraft that had a bad outdrive seal on it's maiden voyage. Someday I will probably own a montauk. Small, easily trailerable, and super sea worthy. Just bring good rain gear.

I love skipjacks, and the fact that there are 100s running around killing tuna in Socal that were built in the 70s and look brand new is a testament to their quality. Tough to pay 30K for a 15 year old boat though, and that's what they go for. Kinda funny looking too, but if you like the look, it's awesome, very distinct.

What about a pop can boat? There are some good ones. Maxweld, ACB? I haven't ridden on these, but hope to some day. I love assasins maxweld and the hopper down in Garibaldi. Ah, to dream. I need to hit the lottery. Champagne taste on beer money.

[avid]

Kurt,

I seen people talking Maxwelds here before but their website didn't give one much to work with. I see they have a new site up but how can one dream if they don't have a clue as to price or plans. I think saying custom leaves it too open. They should show some of their standard designs. Maybe the new site does.

ACB, it sounds quite interesting but doesn't look real good. IMHO I want a boat that other people have heard of for resale value. I considered a JetCraft Kingfisher 2425 but it's new boat. Then again, when I went through the transom door of a Kingfisher something sharp ripped a new, heavy pair of jeans. Boats with sharp edges, I don't think so.

If you read Pascoe's website you can take what he says and compare it to the boat you are buying. I believe in no coring below the waterline. Solid glass and no coring for bolt through areas with backing plates. These things only make sense. I have heard about boat disasters, like balsa coring that can be spooned out and decks so soft you think you are on a trampoline. Hulls so full of water it squirts out if drilled. Pascoe's website is about education. I was in San Diego looking at boats and said I seen enough just after climbing aboard a boat and the broker said you haven't seen it yet. I said look at the deck flexing under your feet and he said, "You noticed that?" Scary!

[fish assassin]

Yeah, the Maxwelds are nice, but you better have
pretty deep pockets. I second mortgaged one of my
homes to buy my 30 foot MaxCat! A 27 footer STARTS
at about 140 boat bucks!!

The MaxCat tends to bang a little in a head sea and
you'll need to slow down to about 16-18 knots if there
is any swell/wind chop, but takes a following sea
extremely well! I can usually run mine (in energy
conservation mode ... 2800 RPM) at about 22-24 knots
in a following sea. Top speed on mine during sea
trials was 37.5 knots! Top speed now, with all the
fishing/living gear on board, is about 34 knots.

Well appointed, built like tanks (I know for a fact
that you can put three 250+ lb. guys on the roof
without popping out the windows ...) and pretty fast,
depending on your power option. Now available with
a 300 hp. MerCruiser matched up to Bravo III outdrives!
Mine are just measly little 250 hp MerCruisers. :depressed:

Problem with buying a MaxCat is that you can't get it
in a hurry! I had to wait in the queue for almost
a *year* before Andy started building it! It then
took four months to get it built ... usually takes
about 2.5-3 months, but some stuff came up.

The best part about having a custom boat built at a
location close to home is that during the final stages
of construction I was able to be on site adding little
things like my electronics (radios front and back,
GPS/sounder front and back, antennas, compasses, etc.)
before he had everything "buttoned up". It's a lot
easier to run wires behind the sinks/counter/refer
*before* everything is installed and closed up than
after! They also gave me a lot of good, helpful,
professional advice as I was there with the crew
installing MY stuff.

Sorry for the long post ... I'm done! I just get
excited every time I get to talk about my little
MaxCat "Pacific Mistress".

Sea ya,
-assAssin-

[avid]

assAssin,

Wow, that makes the boats I'm looking at look cheap!<g> Thanks for the lengthy post, it's great to hear an owner's POV and a plus for MaxWeld that you love your boat.

Davis boats also have a waiting list and invite owners to visit. It would be great to be able to pop-in and see how things are going. Plus you know how the boat is put together which could be a lifesaver in certain situations.

[Marty]

Keta

There are some great deals on boats in Florida, as there are more boats there than any other state. For a couple years I would buy good used boats in Florida and ship them to a friend in San Diego. He would sell them and we would split the profits. We would ship two 22 to 25 footers on a flatbed for about $3,200.00. The rates vary, but about $1.25 a mile is an average price. If you get a boat over 9' wide, the rates can go up drastically. The boat broker I worked with knew what I wanted and he would video tape prospective boats and fed ex them to me for review. They would be surveyed and I would make an offer thru him. It worked pretty smoothly and I may end up doing it again. If you had the funds, you could buy two boats, sell one and the profits from that one would offset the one you really want.

Another boat for your list would be a Parker. Its made in N. Carolina, and in California they outsell the whalers, radons, shamrocks, Davis and skippy's 2 to 1. Check out there website. Personally I am partial to the Seasports.

Good luck in your search, as getting there is half the fun.

Marty

[avid]

My wife's nephews are a Parker dealer in Stuart, FL. I haven't persuaded her to call ask what kind of deal they would cut us. Well at least not yet. <g>

[fish assassin]

Originally posted by Marty:
Keta

(text deleted)

Good luck in your search, as getting there is half the fun.

Marty

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Really!! You would not believe how many boats I looked
at before I decided on the MaxWeld. Lots of agonizing,
lots of comparisons. Took me a couple of
years to make *my* decision. Glad I spent the time!
This will probably have to be my last boat ... even
though I've already got "ten footitis". I really do
believe I could see me in a 40'x15' MaxCat!

-assAssin-

PS, Marty, I love the looks of your SeaSport!! What
a great looking boat!

[Uglygreen]

i love my Almar Sounder, Almar is currently owned by North River, I would buy another one any day. Solid construction with good attention to detail and a smooth ride. I can usually run 5-10 MPH faster than similar boats of other makes. It is a wet ride, but what 20' open boat isnt? Good raingear! Someday, once the kids are gone, I will have a larger version with hard top and alaska bulkhead. Everyone has been impressed with the fishability and punch the Ugly Green boat packs for its size. One of the few positive flotation - foam filled Aluminum boats avalible.

My primary concern with this boat was being able to handle and fish the boat solo in a safe manner.

I sold a wellcraft 28' costal with twin 250 HP Mercs to buy this boat used. Had plenty of cash left over for the electronic toys. I fish 3 times as much with the smaller boat. Am very happy with the choice.

I now have a 14' car topper, a 16' drift boat, a 18' FB jet sled, and the 20' Ugly green boat for what I had into the Wellcraft. There is not a piece of water within 200 miles of Portland that I cant go to and fish with my little fleet.

UG

[avid]

Don't get me wrong, Sea Sports are great boats and I may still end up with one. They are the predominant boat in Puget Sound by a huge margin. In fact, one of the dealers told me that Bill Gates and Paul Allen each purchased two. We are going to the Davis Factory next week and I will let you know what I think.

[Threemuch]

UG-
Gotta love a center console for solo fishability. Quality raingear is a must for any salty dog. My big desire is to someday have a really big boat moored in my favorite Oregon Harbor and a 17 montauk on the trailer.

Do you wear a leash when you troll? My biggest fear is going overboard at 8 kts and watching the boat troll away. Try making this agonizing decision, drown or grab a jig as they go by. Most small positive flotation CCs have pretty small freeboard. The montauk is about 12", 18 with the rail. Yours looked pretty low as well. Easy boat to fall out of.

[Miss B Haven]

I'll stick to my 34 Tolly - thank you very much !

Trailer ability does have its bennies I must admit, but having a 24 knot floating fishing home on the water's hard to beat. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[corrirod]

Avid,

Found this site while looking for boats similar to Osprey and SeaSports, only made out of aluminum. This company is in Canada and with the exchange rate the way it is you can really get a good deal. Also, I'm not sure the name but talked with a guy who owns a boat repair place and he said there is another manufacturer in Canada that makes a similar boat to SeaSport but better and cheaper. I'll post the name if I remember it.

http://www.wolfboats.com/Boatspage.htm

[Deepslayer]

Those Wolf boats look pretty good Corrirod. Any idea of how many of my kids I would have to sell to get one?
,Ed

[Deepslayer]

Another Canadien manufacturer of quality aluminum boats is silverstreakboats. I remember when Sturgn was pricing them. The favorable exchange rate definitely makes a difference, but still out of my price range! :depressed:
,Ed

[avid]

corrirod,

Is either one of these the Canadian manufacturer you were talking about?

http://www.doubleeagleboats.com/226.html

http://www.campionboats.com/

My wife is an accountant and she told me I could afford to have a slip or a trailer boat. I am going with the boat. &lt;g&gt; Would I love a 34' Tolly, sure. UG, if their cabin boats catch fish like the UG, then maybe that's the way I should go.

[Sensei-san]

Keta, Having helped maintain Rich Oba's Bertrams, I recommend them highly. The only knock is that they are a wet riding boat in choppy seas. He has two Bertrams. A 25' Moppie and a 38' Convertible. Everything that David Pascoe says about Bertrams is true. Both of Rich's boats have zero blisters and the construction is first class. The legend is that that Richard Bertram hired the best Cuban ex-patriates that had worked in the ship building yards in Havana. He also used a special fiberglass resin with a green tint so that they could see if the glass was wetted out throughly. You can see the quality. No chopper gun was used to lay glass in Bertram boats. Blackfin boats are Bertrams taken to a higher level. Carl Herndon, who was the production manager at Bertram in its heyday, founded Blackfin. The Blackfin 38 express is the finest fishing boat bar none. The Blackfin 31 is the Bertram 31 done as a Ferrari. If you are serious about buying a boat in Florida, there is a free magazine in Florida called the Florida Mariner. It has tons of ads for boats. You can find boats in it that are not on yachtworld. But yachtworld.com is a good place to start looking. But the advice that the others gave about trying to do the run by water is good advice. There are alot of pirates in the Caribbean. Small speedboats are highly prized as drug boats. A 22-24' boat would be perfect for them and you would be bullet riddled shark bait. Besides trailering it back would be just as fun. Did you see "My Cousin Vinny"? It could be you in the county jail in Tuscaloosa for running a stopsign.

[Fishplay]

Hey guys I own a Maxweld and I'm extreamly happy with the boat other than I've seriously outgrown it. It's a tank and compares to the Almar for construction. But one manufacturer you have left out and deserves honorable mention is Boulton Powerboats click here . This guys boats have the cleanest lines and the nicest interiors of any metal boats out there. It's the little things that make a big overall differance in alluminum manufacturers. You wont find anything to get snaged up on in a Boulton.
Smooth, Smooth, Smooth!
26-30 ft Offshore with twin 225 Hondas. OHH YAA!!!

[ 09-18-2002, 01:08 AM: Message edited by: Fishplay ]

[Popeye]

Keta,
The only firepower you would be able to take is a flare gun.....however, they do make a good size hole at point blank range

[skein]

Okay, since you guys seem to know every boat that can get out past the crabbing dock, what do you think of Puffin's Edwing? He was absolutely fanatical talking about it at ifishstock, and certainly caught my attention. I went to their site, but couldn't find any pictures. I'm going to try to get up there, but it's not exactly an afternoon stroll from Sweet Home.

Puffin? Puffin's Crew? Got any pictures?

We're going to have a tuna boat by next season, all we have to do is decide what it's gonna be. What's the verdict on the 21ft Arima, the one without the cabin? I've owned a little one, and was really impressed by its quality and fishability. Seems the bigger ones, the early 19's and the 22, are carrying too much cabin and they look cramped and heavy. But the 21 (Ranger?) looks pretty good. Any thoughts?

Skein

Skein,
Puffin's boat appears to be well built and in his words "bullet proof". It looked like it was handling the water well too, however it's still a metal boat and metal and saltwater don't mix.

Popeye,
Flare gun! Well I can convert my FAL to shoot flares :grin: Do you think that will work, or do you think I'll end up in a Mexican jail :shocked: ?

[Miss B Haven]

Originally posted by Keta:
Sensei-san,
If I did go by water I would take some firepower, what ever I could take through Mexico and Panama.
It looks like I could drive my truck back and tow it for $1000- $1500.
I will have to see when I know how much cash I get. No credit for this guy. :smile:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Keta - Multiply this by 10 (at least) if you go by water. Also- plan on a new boat when you get here. No boat you're talking about will last longer than the trip. Check the miles and think about the hours on the used motor(s) you're thinking of buying. Plan on at least 1000 mile range between Fuel stops and that only works in some cases if you call ahead and arrange trucks to meet you. Have one or two of EVERYTHING as spares. And yes - you will be in a Mexican jail if you have a gun on the boat and get checked (they don't give permits either). This of course assumes you survive the trip at all. You'll about 300 charts just to start (don't tell me the GPS/computer will do).
My 34 (Twin Cats/300 gal) wouldn't EVEN do this trip. Lots of 48's wouldn't do this trip. Trawlers and sailboats can do this trip just fine. You are not talking about either. Fast fish boats don't have the legs or the storage for little things like food and water.
Dream this, practice a few years with trips to Cabo in the right boat. Then decide and go for it.

[Pilar]

I have many photos of 'Puffin' in battle, most are at least 30 miles offshore and feature various dead or dying fish. I'll see about scanning some and posting them.

The 21' Ed Wing Ocean is a boat that needs to be finished to be perfect. The manufacturer puts 100% of his effort in building a bulletproof and extremely seaworthy boat. This guy builds all kinds of craft for service on the Columbia river bar from trawlers, crabbers and on down to the sport fishers. Very little attention is paid to the outfit and to finishing and the poofy stuff that makes a good boat great.

If you want inexpensive and hard core strong then this is the boat for you. If you can finish the boat yourself IE: wire in the electronics, mount pole holders and downriggers, canvas work and interior padding and upholstery then get your butt up to Chinook Wa and check it out.

Ed will do that stuff for you but he will never give you the quality for the buck spent on the outfit. Once the hull and basic boat is built he is done.

Most other boats are built to look good and less attention is paid to the bulletproof part.

All that said, my next boat will be an Ed Wing Custom, probably in 25 - 28 ft. with an I/O Mercruiser and a huge fuel cell. When the chips are down and the Ocean is angry I really want the bulletproof part to work and could care less about the looks. Or maybe a Grady White Sailfish .... Wait I can't afford the Grady .. Ok Ed Wing then.

[Threemuch]

Pilar-
You are better off without the sailfish anyway. You think my gas bill is big? Try a sailfish with twin 225s on the back. Count on .5 to .7 mpg, I have fished off two of them.

Puffin is a kicka$$ boat. I have also seen a CC version of the same hull.

What's wrong with a metal boat in the salt? Virtually every serious working boat and all ships are made of metal. An understanding of galvanic corrosion and sacrificial annodes, as well as a religious commitment to changing zincs (no problem if you are a diver) is all that's required. That said, them tin cans is COLD! Try sleeping on board an aluminum cabin boat that's in the water without a heater. It will suck the life right out of you.

KB

[Uglygreen]

Agree 100% with the previous post. My Wellcraft 2600 Coastal was similar in size, weight, hull design, and power to a sailfish. Cost at least a $100 bill every time I started it. Which made a catching a couple puny Coho a lot less fun. Having had both glass and metal boats - metal is the only way to go. Easy maintaince / easy to fix. Never have had a corrosion problem. Have had pleanty of gelcoat / plywood problems. I spend 2/3's less time cleaning the darn thing. White fiberglass is a pain, sorry but the truth when compaired to grey painted aluminum. I used to always cringe whenever black soled boots / shoes came near the glass boat, no longer.

The Almar is "bulletproof" as well, but a lot of attention is paid to the details, fit, and finish.

I wouldnt mind a new boat that is a little rough, that would be fun to finish, but not in a used boat, repairing and changing rookie half-a$$ed work sucks.

UG

[ 09-18-2002, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[Uglygreen]

I did love the large warm glass boat for camping / overnight trips however. My wife liked the big glass boat better as well. My daughter was concieved on the Wellcraft. When I sold it for a smaller aluminum boat for more fishing oppertunities she said I could forget the hanky-panky on the boat. "Not on that little tin can, not on a bet" I believe was the quote.

NOTE: For the rest of you out there, the wrong answer to this is to tell the wife / girlfriend / signifigant other / etc... that fishing is more fun than sex anyway. You get in MAJOR trouble. And I still hear about it four years later...

UG

[avid]

I drive by the Boulton boat shop, on Crater Lake Hwy, on a regular basis just to admire the beautiful boats. I haven't gotten up the nerve to even go in and ask how much. They were working on what looked to be at least a 40'. Fish-Rite had a dandy blue water boat sitting out front with twin Suzuki 140 four strokes.

[nerta]

:shocked: keta I met your wife the other day she was shopping for kitchen utensils with some lady with the last name of BOBBIT! :grin: :grin:

[avid]

I was going to make some comment about getting "cut off" in more than one way but I held fire. &lt;g&gt;

My right leg :depressed: , my pain :depressed: , MY BOAT!!! :grin:

Threemuch,

Real ocean work boats are made out of steel not aluminum. I would rather have a steel boat in the ocean than a glass or aluminum except for the weight factor. Steel is easier to work on and paint.

[Sailfish]

Hey Keta I got a thought for you.
I was just up in Cleveland Oh. and there are tons of nice boats up in that area for sale. I'm not sure if the prices are as cheap as they are in Fl. But you have the added benefit that most great lakes boats have'nt been sitting in or been exposed to the salt for any length of time. According to the latest issue of Sport Fishing magazine, there are actually more boats in Michigan than in Florida, and alot of these are hard-top cuddy style. I saw a ton of nice Parkers, Grady's, Trophy's etc. while I was in Cleveland. Maybe a shorter trailer ride and no salt corrosion? I have no idea how you would look for boats for sale in Michigan but you might want to investigate it, it's probably not to difficult. Good luck.

[corrirod]

Trader Online will list boats in all 50 states. The address is:

www.traderonline.com (as in Boat Trader)

It's so much fun helping other people spend their money!

Good luck.

[ 09-18-2002, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: corrirod ]

[kenai]

Skein--- Im in the same boat, Yuk yuk. I've been thinking alot about upgrading next yr too. have the 17 ft Arima now and love it but would like a little more range and a hardtop. I'm going to look for a used 22 arima and some other affordable brands. What kinda price range are you guys talking for a vessel like the puffin? Grady's seem like your paying a lot for the name. The ACB's claim incredible mileage and look like a tough craft as well so thats on the list as well. Good discussion, sure beats listening to salesmen.

Sailfish,
My wifes sister lives in Canton, OH. I will call my brother-in-law and have him check.
Thanks :smile:

Rod,
Next year you will have another running partner for tuna trips :smile: . Too bad I have to look for a job :depressed:

[ 09-18-2002, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: Keta ]

Sensei-san,
If I did go by water I would take some firepower, what ever I could take through Mexico and Panama.
It looks like I could drive my truck back and tow it for $1000- $1500.
I will have to see when I know how much cash I get. No credit for this guy. :smile:

[ 09-18-2002, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[puffins crew]

Skein,

These are the only pics I have around. The early morning pic is of The sun rising over Yaquina bay/Newport.

The other is me after a Halibut/Chinook day. Not much of the boat , but the 30lb Chinook was a nice addition to the 40lb Halibut I caught that day. :grin:

[skein]

Thanks for the pics, Puffin's Crew. That gives me a better idea. Do you know if the Edwing shop has pics of boats they've done, or at least some schematics of basic designs. I have a pretty good idea of what I want, but I'm no boat builder/layout guy, and I want to cover as many bases as I can. It's sure a lot easier to build things in than it is to add 'em on later.

That sunrise picture was really cool. I'll bet that was a pretty morning to be out there.

Skein

[Threemuch]

Cheap! In your shammy that will only be like 3 or 4 bucks! You SHOULD go after all! :shocked:

[avid]

skein,

There is a very simple web page that Pilar or Puffin mentioned here some time ago.

http://www.edwing.com/

[skein]

Thanks, Avid, I missed it. All Google has for edwing boats is...well, nothing.

Skein

[corrirod]

Keta,

I can't wait to see what you end up with. It'll be great running with you next year!

Just FYI if anyone is interested. Found the Panama Canal site. Doesn't appear to be a big deal to cross, as long as you've got the dough. This site has a live cam also which is pretty cool. Here's the main address:

www.pancanal.com

And the link to the tolls/tariffs:

http://www.pancanal.com/eng/index.html

[Hamachi]

$140K for a boat? Geesh! What do you guys do for a living? That's almost a house note!

Back in '90 the Hamachi was $13k for boat/motor/trailer. (Extensive mods/upgrades since then)

[avid]

I was wondering about Hamachi, please tell us more. TIA

[corrirod]

You can't even buy the outboard for $13K now, let alone the rest of the boat!

[Hamachi]

What do you want to know?