Wanted: Female Yellow Lab Pup

[Catch 22]

We are looking for a female yellow lab pup.

She would need to meet the following criteria:

1. Be from a field bred line. Not interested in show/pet labs. Parents that hunt is a must.

2. Be around $500 or so. No $1000 and up pups please.

3. Have parents available to view (meet).

4. Have open registration.

[PacificPointer]

Originally Posted by Catch 22

We are looking for a female yellow lab pup.

She would need to meet the following criteria:

1. Be from a field bred line. Not interested in show/pet labs. Parents that hunt is a must.

2. Be around $500 or so. No $1000 and up pups please.

3. Have parents available to view (meet).

4. Have open registration.

With this criteria that you've listed I'd research and get yourself a dog from a Ch dog. And I just wouldn't look at the parents I'd look at the pedigree and see how many Ch dogs are in the line and if you might breed the dog look at there any nice line bred dogs.

Your price off $500.00 is fair especially since things are slow. People with private treaty keep on going, you should buy from the person who insist that you keep in contact because they want to know how the pups turn out. Everyone who breeds should be in contact and monitor/evaluate the breedings. People who wan to be secretive keep going.

Do you want a 55-70 female or a big groundpounder? Id look at Utopia out of Junction City and there are some nice dogs down in K Falls that have some CH.

Or stay warmer and get a Pointer

[Hawaiian Time]

You might want to look for the FC/AFC or MH designated titles if you want a good field bred lab. HT

[whtelk]

If my pup doesn't get out of this insane puppy stage you can have her...NOT.

[Twitchs_Tackle]

Keep us updated please, I am in the same boat. Think we've narrowed it down to a yellow female withe the same main points you list.

Any info you could pass on would be appreciated!

[huntercgr]

A friend has a lab pup for sale that is registered. It was given to him as a surprise, but they didn't want another dog. I do not know anything about the pup, but do have the parents names if anyone knows how to research it. The pup is in Heppner, born March 30th, and is a yellow female. LMK if you want to look up the lineage, or if you need more info.

The parents are located in Willamina.

[PacificPointer]

Actually the guy who is doing the Dock dogs would be a good person to ask.

[Frozen_Arrows]

look on retrievertraining.net and working retriever central you are going to find the best field bred litters out thier most will have FC or FC/AFC sires and females with good pedigrees. What you are looking for a nice fieldbred yellow female with a titled parent is going to run you around 1k per pup non titled parents will be cheaper.

Utopia has a litter of black pups fc father for 1k per pup. They wont have Yellows.

[Capin' Dan]

CH are titles earned by conformation labs. FC/AFC are titles earned by Field trials and MH/SH/JH are hunt titles at the rear of a dogs name earned for competition in hunting test. there are also a number of obediance titles as well and then there are agility, tracking, and many others out there now days. He is looking for FC/AFC.

IS $500 a resonable price for a lower end dog probably but for a top notch breeding I think you are looking at the $800 or $1000. Even in these trying times I haven't had a problem placing my dogs of this spring.

Remember conformation dogs can hunt and sometimes are even a better match than high energy bred hunting lines (Not saying that all field bred dogs are bounceing off the cieling) just my extensive experiance with labs over the past 25 years and running a pure bred rescue tells me that there are more high energy dogs out of those lines that conformation. I also personally feel that most conformation breedings are better bred and healthier dogs IMHO. Once again based on my observations in dealing with rescued dogs in the past.
I would really like to lay to rest the opinions that folks have about show dogs won't hunt it is just that most of them don't because their owners don't hunt. I will go on to say that many field labs don't meet bred standards as set by the AKC it would be nice that someday that could change before we destroy the bred with a bunch of grey hound looking labs.

Sorry for hijacking the thread and feel free to flame away

[Catch 22]

Originally Posted by Capin' Dan

CH are titles earned by conformation labs. FC/AFC are titles earned by Field trials and MH/SH/JH are hunt titles at the rear of a dogs name earned for competition in hunting test. there are also a number of obediance titles as well and then there are agility, tracking, and many others out there now days. He is looking for FC/AFC.

IS $500 a resonable price for a lower end dog probably but for a top notch breeding I think you are looking at the $800 or $1000. Even in these trying times I haven't had a problem placing my dogs of this spring.

Remember conformation dogs can hunt and sometimes are even a better match than high energy bred hunting lines (Not saying that all field bred dogs are bounceing off the cieling) just my extensive experiance with labs over the past 25 years and running a pure bred rescue tells me that there are more high energy dogs out of those lines that conformation. I also personally feel that most conformation breedings are better bred and healthier dogs IMHO. Once again based on my observations in dealing with rescued dogs in the past.
I would really like to lay to rest the opinions that folks have about show dogs won't hunt it is just that most of them don't because their owners don't hunt. I will go on to say that many field labs don't meet bred standards as set by the AKC it would be nice that someday that could change before we destroy the bred with a bunch of grey hound looking labs.

Sorry for hijacking the thread and feel free to flame away

You didn't hijack anything Captn. I like to learn different views before making any big decision. So Thank You! Really. I know that I can spend over $1000 on a dog from a show breeder that has CH lines 5 gens back and it may or may not hunt well. Show rings are not my thing. However I do hear you about field labs straying from the conformation standards.
I have seen some field bred labs that couldn't sit still for 20 seconds. But I also don't want a big lazy lump sitting around all day. Some people like corvettes and some like cadillacs. I want something sporty yet controllable. LOL.

[Hawaiian Time]

Originally Posted by Capin' Dan

CH are titles earned by conformation labs. FC/AFC are titles earned by Field trials and MH/SH/JH are hunt titles at the rear of a dogs name earned for competition in hunting test. there are also a number of obediance titles as well and then there are agility, tracking, and many others out there now days. He is looking for FC/AFC.

IS $500 a resonable price for a lower end dog probably but for a top notch breeding I think you are looking at the $800 or $1000. Even in these trying times I haven't had a problem placing my dogs of this spring.

Remember conformation dogs can hunt and sometimes are even a better match than high energy bred hunting lines (Not saying that all field bred dogs are bounceing off the cieling) just my extensive experiance with labs over the past 25 years and running a pure bred rescue tells me that there are more high energy dogs out of those lines that conformation. I also personally feel that most conformation breedings are better bred and healthier dogs IMHO. Once again based on my observations in dealing with rescued dogs in the past.
I would really like to lay to rest the opinions that folks have about show dogs won't hunt it is just that most of them don't because their owners don't hunt. I will go on to say that many field labs don't meet bred standards as set by the AKC it would be nice that someday that could change before we destroy the bred with a bunch of grey hound looking labs.

Sorry for hijacking the thread and feel free to flame away

Cap n Dan...Some don't like the short stocky look of a show lab. To make generalization that show dogs are better bred is IMHO a crock. Show labs have many health problems associated with their lines. I have seen a few show lines that get the job done in the field and even have a couple in our training group that are great retrievers but not as stylish as the field bred lab in most cases when it comes to retrieving. One top show line dog turned out dysplastic that trained with us for a short time. They do have allergies just like field labs from tiime to time. I personally like to train a dog that has the go instead of spending a lot of time trying to get the go to exhibit itself. It's just a matter of preference on the type of dog you want. I don't make disagree that the show dog line can retrieve but to make a generalization that they are better bred to me is like someone saying show dogs don't retrieve. They are totally different in most aspects. AKC sets the conformation standards and yes the field lab does not meet the criteria but the field lab has not been bred to show but to retrieve with efficiency. HT

[rimrock]

The cost of a dog is a small price of the overall ownership. If you can find a great line/pedigree, quality breeder than even $1000 is really nothing to pay. I'm NOT saying spend money without a care in the world, just the inital cost is nothing over 10+ years of the dog's life.

[98ramtough]

Originally Posted by Capin' Dan

CH are titles earned by conformation labs. FC/AFC are titles earned by Field trials and MH/SH/JH are hunt titles at the rear of a dogs name earned for competition in hunting test. there are also a number of obediance titles as well and then there are agility, tracking, and many others out there now days. He is looking for FC/AFC.

IS $500 a resonable price for a lower end dog probably but for a top notch breeding I think you are looking at the $800 or $1000. Even in these trying times I haven't had a problem placing my dogs of this spring.

Remember conformation dogs can hunt and sometimes are even a better match than high energy bred hunting lines (Not saying that all field bred dogs are bounceing off the cieling) just my extensive experiance with labs over the past 25 years and running a pure bred rescue tells me that there are more high energy dogs out of those lines that conformation. I also personally feel that most conformation breedings are better bred and healthier dogs IMHO. Once again based on my observations in dealing with rescued dogs in the past.
I would really like to lay to rest the opinions that folks have about show dogs won't hunt it is just that most of them don't because their owners don't hunt. I will go on to say that many field labs don't meet bred standards as set by the AKC it would be nice that someday that could change before we destroy the bred with a bunch of grey hound looking labs.

Sorry for hijacking the thread and feel free to flame away

We just picked up a "show" bred dog. He is now 9 1/2 weeks old. He is sitting, laying down, kenneling on command and is very birdy. Of course also loves to chase bumpers into the kiddy pool. All of this is just playing of course, but the pup definitely has the hunting instinct and there is no doubt he will love hunting.

This pup is so mellow and such a pleasure to be around. I think the training is going to be 10X easier with him than my last hyperactive lab.

Thanks for the "show" pup Capn Dan. We absolutely love him!

[blackdog]

You might ask Hawaiin Time if he's got anything coming up. He has some tremendous dogs that would fit what you're looking for IF the color matches up.

[Catch 22]

Originally Posted by blackdog

You might ask Hawaiin Time if he's got anything coming up. He has some tremendous dogs that would fit what you're looking for IF the color matches up.

I'm keeping him in mind as well. Thank you.

[PacificPointer]

Catch22:
Research alot, find the kennel that wants you to have/run one of their dogs. If the kennel dosen't want or make a effort to show you that they want you to run/own their dogs be suspect. just because a kennel has a big name dont be fooled. Also look at the events won by the CH. In the Pointer world a HT is laughable to the American Field guys and dogs that can run. You breed two All Age dog you be lucky to get 1-2 pups that will run AA. Its called drag of the breed, dog breeding goes down not up. And research /deposit money on a litter 1-2 pick.

I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on crap dogs from established kennels, I just give them away. Find the kennel that will work with you, right now I'm getting dogs from a guy that "wants" his dog here in Oregon. Last dog I got was 225.00 price of shipping and health cert. Same guy just had another litter and is bro'ing me on another pup. Why some will ask??? Money dosen't matter to him, sending his dog to the areas he wants his dogs proven in does.

[Tilla]

When you are through shopping, have patience and want to get down to business, I can find you your best friend for the next 14 years. No charge.

Here is a pick of the litter now in Pocatello Idaho with the luckiest guy in the world last week.

[rimrock]

Originally Posted by PacificPointer

Catch22:
Research alot, find the kennel that wants you to have/run one of their dogs. If the kennel dosen't want or make a effort to show you that they want you to run/own their dogs be suspect. just because a kennel has a big name dont be fooled. Also look at the events won by the CH. In the Pointer world a HT is laughable to the American Field guys and dogs that can run. You breed two All Age dog you be lucky to get 1-2 pups that will run AA. Its called drag of the breed, dog breeding goes down not up. And research /deposit money on a litter 1-2 pick.

I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on crap dogs from established kennels, I just give them away. Find the kennel that will work with you, right now I'm getting dogs from a guy that "wants" his dog here in Oregon. Last dog I got was 225.00 price of shipping and health cert. Same guy just had another litter and is bro'ing me on another pup. Why some will ask??? Money dosen't matter to him, sending his dog to the areas he wants his dogs proven in does.

Excellent advice.

[Catch 22]

Originally Posted by Tilla

When you are through shopping, have patience and want to get down to business, I can find you your best friend for the next 14 years. No charge.

Here is a pick of the litter now in Pocatello Idaho with the luckiest guy in the world last week.

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