Hydro 4000

[fishboys]

Has anyone heard of this? It is claiming to increase your gas mileage from 20% to 60%. First heard about it on Am talk radio.

Just wondering if anybody else would consider purchasing this unit?

NBC did a story and a test on the unit also.


http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8302039

[butwhymalemodels]

The vehicle was driven for 20 minutes at 55 mph on a full tank of gas.
Once done, we found that even with an oil change, clean air filter and proper tire pressure, we were averaging roughly 9.4 miles per gallon.


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With the Hydro 4000 installed, our news vehicle was now averaging 23.2 miles per gallon.

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That's pretty darned amazing.

$1,200 would pay for itself pretty quickly.

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Yes, and Seven Of Nine will be tucking me in tonight.....

[StickFish]

Troy, Hitekrdnek and I have been talking about this. The questions we had were how much water does it use and where does it come from - appears to be a small tank that has to be filled periodically. The next is the seperation of Hydrogen and Oxygen from water takes electricity - how much? I think it was 10-12 amps which when the engine is running my question is what excess capacity is available in the normal car's alternator - that one I don't know. We all know that an alternator is a poor rapid charger for a dead car battery and the the draw from that can kill your alternator. My next question is you are increasing the combustibility of the fuel air combination with the introduction of hydrogen. What effect does that have on compression and heat? We all know a gas engine fed NO2 is going to go like a bat out of you know where, but it isn't for the causal Aunt Bea on her way to the store in the Buick.

Next question is the laws of thermodynamics - you can't get anything for nothing - how does this fit into the equation. Last - if it really worked why hasn't GM, or Ford snapped up the license for exclusive use in their vehicles, or why hasn't big oil grabbed it to keep us filling their pockets instead.

Interesting idea, but I'd like to see some real science

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Originally Posted by StickFish

Troy, Hitekrdnek and I have been talking about this. The questions we had were how much water does it use and where does it come from - appears to be a small tank that has to be filled periodically. The next is the seperation of Hydrogen and Oxygen from water takes electricity - how much? I think it was 10-12 amps which when the engine is running my question is what excess capacity is available in the normal car's alternator - that one I don't know. We all know that an alternator is a poor rapid charger for a dead car battery and the the draw from that can kill your alternator. My next question is you are increasing the combustibility of the fuel air combination with the introduction of hydrogen. What effect does that have on compression and heat? We all know a gas engine fed NO2 is going to go like a bat out of you know where, but it isn't for the causal Aunt Bea on her way to the store in the Buick.

Next question is the laws of thermodynamics - you can't get anything for nothing - how does this fit into the equation. Last - if it really worked why hasn't GM, or Ford snapped up the license for exclusive use in their vehicles, or why hasn't big oil grabbed it to keep us filling their pockets instead.

Interesting idea, but I'd like to see some real science

Ships often spend over $100,000 a day for fuel, why wouldn't they be using this if it doubles mileage?

Maybe they 'accidentally' had some loose plug wires on the first dyno run.

Or maybe big oil and the man is just thumbing us, ya that's it. Big oil and the man.

$1200 bucks for a little gizmo? Give $1200 and I will give you a gizmo and say almost anything you want to hear too.

Ships have used water injection btw, does work, gets a couple %, but a big hassle. I think it suppresses preignition.

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Ships have used water injection btw, does work, gets a couple %, but a big hassle. I think it suppresses preignition.

Yep, that's exactly what it does. I remember reading about water injection systems in JC Whitney before I owned cars and swore I'd have one but still don't.
The equation will always balance and it will always take the same amount of energy to overcome the inevitable inertia of the universe.