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Old 05-15-2002, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default Newport Salmon

In an earlier post, somebody mentioned two chinook taken at the rockpile last weekend. That certainly tweaked my interest.

I have not yet fished for chinook out of Newport (although I caught three bottomfishing at Seal Rock). I may be a little early in my interest but would like to start honing my skills for kings out of my favorite port.

Any experts on the subject? I'm interested in where, when and how. I've already got the what and why down just fine.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-15-2002, 07:38 AM   #2
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Moby, I'm no expert but I'll tell you what I know.

Method .. I've used two and they both work.
1) Deep troll with a downrigger

This allows the use of an attractor. I suggest you use the biggest Abe and Al flasher you can find. Tie that to your main line using a Sanpo ball bearing swivel. Both of my big flashers have this on a welded ring right out of the box. Use a 5 or 7 bead chain swivel on the tail and a 3 ft leader with 2 sharp hooks fixed. You just plug or use a whole herring and get a big slow roll.

Go for either 100 to 120 ft or track the bottom. 30 feet up off the bottom is good. Your downrigger will need at least 200 ft of wire and I recommend you get the 300 ft spool for not much more money.

To run this rig. Start your troll and set the speed on the kicker, let out some line and watch your action. Early in the morning, before first light this 'test' will sometimes result in fish on as the salmon are right on the surface feeding. Then let out 25 to 50 ft slowly so you don't foul your rig. Clip on to the release and slowly lower to 100 ft. You can watch the depth sounder and find the fish. You will see them as individuals or groups at a specific depth. Salmon look up so fish above any obvious fishy level by 10 ft or so.

2) Dead drift/Mooch

This is a new technique (to me) I learned last summer from Capt. Dan and Baitboy on the Sea Swan. You may not use an attractor and the bait must be 6" or longer. Use an 8 to 12 oz. trolling sinker with a bead chain swivel on one end (tail). The same leader and bait method, although spin seems unimportant or less so than fresh bait.

To fish this rig. Check your action by letting out a little line. If it works for you then slowly lower it to the bottom. If you go fast it will wrap up in a big mess. Dropping gear while the boat is slowing and approaching the start of the drift greatly reduces tangles. Hit the bottom and bounce a few times letting out line until you have bottom all the time. Crank up 10 to 15 turns on the reel handle and set the drag pretty loose with a clicker. Put it in the holder and leave it there until the po buckles and screams. If you hit the bottom because the depth changed, crank up 10 more turns.

A ling may surprise you as you set your line. This is how we target them only we keep hopping the bottom and hold the rod.

Good luck and happy hunting.

Wait there's more ...

North end of the rockpile is where. Try
N44 32.300' W124 22.123'

This is an area a little east of the north end. The depth is about 200 but varies. The rockpile is to your west a bit and you need to be careful if you head west because it will shallow up and snag your gear.

Now is when. It only gets better as the summer goes on but the feeders are there now. Any decent ocean day with a little wind to drift the boat will work. Show up early and fish till the wind picks up.

You will find the fish near the surface at daybreak and deeper as the day goes on. As soon as the sun hits the water I go down to 60, 80, 100 etc. You can see the fish on the depth sounder. We have fished as deep as 180 on the down rigger, use a 10 or 12 lb weight and go slow.

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Old 05-15-2002, 09:10 AM   #3
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Yesterday...I talked to a long time commercial fisherman about the latest....this last week they have been fishing the fingers (north and inside of Hecta Banks, which is not worth the beating. They are small fish.

Then yesterday....there was some current on the beach and the crabbers bouys were down, so one boat went to the pile and got 5 large on one pull...and a did ok.

So there are a few around, but they are not being targeted much.

The water on the beach is mud brown today, still a upwelling going on. (I could hardly see the razors in a foot of water.)

The ocean is so so, and I can see a boat at the 30 fathom line off the lighthouse.....there was a 50" caught there 2 days ago.....eek did that slip out.

I still have a good feeling about Friday....
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Old 05-16-2002, 12:36 PM   #4
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I have company coming that weekend and I am stuck on shore, but you can bet you will have plenty of others around, there is sure to be lots of commercial trollers out there as well.

I have dug most of my razors at Agate beach wayside (just down the hill from Walmart) it has been real good, but they could be a little bigger (next year)
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Old 05-16-2002, 11:48 PM   #5
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Default Re: Newport Salmon

We have a 3 day weekend coming up. I'm planning on spending it in Newport. I've never been to the Rockpile but would like to go at least one day, ocean permitting of course.

Is anybody else heading that way over Memorial day weekend? I'd sure like to have a couple of other boats to tag along with, since it would be my first trip out there.

Wak'm... Where are you picking up the razor clams?
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