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Old 04-07-2008, 02:56 PM   #1
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What are the rules for having rockfish onboard with a Halibut?
I am getting that it's not allowed at all and that all rockfish are closed beyond the 40 fathom line. Is that right?
Please explain for me and the rest of us that arent sure.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:00 PM   #2
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What are the rules for having rockfish onboard with a Halibut?
I am getting that it's not allowed at all and that all rockfish are closed beyond the 40 fathom line. Is that right?
Please explain for me and the rest of us that arent sure.
You have it correct - rockfish, lingcod, cabazon cannot be onboard at the same time as halibut. You can, however, retain black cod.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:02 PM   #3
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What about not fishing for them past the 40 fathom line? Is that correct also?
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:04 PM   #4
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What about not fishing for them past the 40 fathom line? Is that correct also?
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Yes - it is closed outside 40 fathoms from 4/1 - 10/1
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:13 PM   #5
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:20 PM   #6
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Just to clarify:

You can have rockfish and halibut aboard your vessel during the inshore halibut season starting May 1st, EXCEPT if it is an ALL DEPTH halibut day.

During ALL DEPTH halibut openings, you CANNOT have both halibut and rockfish aboard regardless of where you fish for halibut. (Meaning that even if you fish for nearshore halibut, you still cannot retain any rockfish). Incidental catch of halibut near shore with a fish box full of rockfish would mean you would have to turn it loose if it was an all depth day.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:26 PM   #7
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http://www.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/finfi...nmaps/2008.asp

"During days open to all-depth halibut fishing, most species may not be taken and retained, possessed or landed when Pacific halibut are onboard the vessel except salmon (using authorized methods during authorized seasons), sablefish, tuna and most other offshore pelagic species are allowed. "
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #8
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Ditto what Nalu said.

Sort the days into two buckets:

a. All-depth halibut days (you know, the 2 or 3 day weekends when you can fish the chicken ranch & the banana)

b. All the other days, known as the "non-all-depth" days (which is awkward), a.k.a. the "inside 40 fathom only" days.


If you are out on the 'b' days, and if you are fortunate enough to catch halibut inside of 40 fathoms, yes you can also have rockfish & lings on board.

But if it is the 'a' days, even if you caught the halibut in 20 fathoms, it is an all-depth day so you may not have rockfish & lings on board along with your halibut.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:06 PM   #9
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You have it correct - rockfish, lingcod, cabazon cannot be onboard at the same time as halibut. You can, however, retain black cod.
I think you can also retain pacific cod; at least in WA.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:12 PM   #10
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Thats why I fish Canada!
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #11
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:21 PM   #12
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Last summer I caught a halibut inside of 40 fathoms on an all-depth day. That was the end of my fishing day because it would not be legal to go catch bottom fish. I was happy with the halibut, but a few lings would have been a nice addition.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:12 PM   #13
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Would it not be legal to take your halibut to shore and head back out for bottom fish ?
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:20 PM   #14
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Would it not be legal to take your halibut to shore and head back out for bottom fish ?
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"During days open to all-depth halibut fishing, most species may not be taken and retained, possessed or landed when Pacific halibut are onboard the vessel except salmon (using authorized methods during authorized seasons), sablefish, tuna and most other offshore pelagic species are allowed. "
The operative word being "onboard". It makes no mention of back in your truck, or back at camp. Two SD conventions ago I confirmed this question with the OSP game officer that attended. He said It was fine.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:58 PM   #15
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as a newbie ocean fisherman....what is the reason for not have the two fish on the same boat? What, they afraid of fish truff wars on the boat? Har Har

but seriously, why not have both fish on same boat?
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:21 PM   #16
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The idea behind it is that offshore (greater than 40 fathoms) is closed to rockfishing during the summer. Prohibiting rockfish and halibut aboard together during ALL DEPTH days is designed to assure that nobody is in fact fishing for rockfish in deep water when they are also fishing for halibut.

There was discussion of allowing retention of 1 halibut as an incidental when fishing nearshore during all depth days, but it didn't come to pass.
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