Bobber OR back bouncing

alwyze fishin · 12-05-2001, 05:49 PM

Ok I got a question way is that some like to Bobber fish and some like to drift fish?

My thought

I for one like to drift fish for salmon and steelhead. Oh and I use a slinky Time saved by not making them is by time lost by having to put new lead on or retie a hole new set up

Ok I just started to use a bobber this year for salmon and the amount of fish that I caught on a bobber equal One fish to a bobber down to a hook set on lets say 8 fish drift fishing.

So way is it those like to use a Bobber is it that they just cant feel the bite on a drift fish method or is it we have not out grown the way we were taught to fish by our peers when we where little

Watch the Bobber son or daughter when it goes down set the hook
way is it that some like to use a Bobber over drift fishing

My thought

I for one like to drift fish for salmon and steelhead. Oh and I use a slinky Time saved by not makeing them is by time lost by haveing to put new lead on or retie a hole new set up

Ok I just started to use a bobber this year for salmon and the amont of fish that I caught on a bobber equal One fish to a bobber down to a hook set on lets say 8 fish drift fishing.

So way is it those like to use a Bobber is it that thay just cant feel the bite on a dift fish methed or is it we have not out grown the way we were taught to fish by our peers when we where little

watch the Bobber son or daughter when it goes down set the hook

alwyze fishin · 12-05-2001, 05:52 PM

Its not back bouncing its drift fishing

bait boy · 12-05-2001, 06:00 PM

Being a first year user of Jigs and bobbers I found the ability to get in tight to cover or fish in snaggy drift water to be the biggest advantages to bobbers. also the ability to acually cover slow water very quietly and thoroughly is a plus.

I do fish drift gear and think that it definitely has its place...I just can't remember where that is :grin:

I just saw a jig and bobber out fish a drifter 10-1

alwyze fishin · 12-05-2001, 06:21 PM

bait boy

I can see where the Bobber can come in to play I just was having a little fun

Bubzilla · 12-05-2001, 06:35 PM

Better strike detection; more natural presentation; easier use of delicate baits; fewer hang-ups; can be presented upstream or downstream effectively; precise lure/bait placement; easier to control speed of presentation; allows you to fish water that you can't fish with drift gear.

Visual strike detection is hard to beat. With a float I can actually get more than two casts with a sand shrimp! Yippie! Fewer hang-ups means less downtime tying rigs. Less downtime means more time fishing. More time fishing means more fish. Being able to fish up and down stream equally well means I can fish more water--oh yeah, and hog the hole!

Being able to precisely place the lure/bait should be an obvious advantage, as is the ability to better control the speed of the presentation. Simple really: more natural drift means more steelhead. And my favorite, fishing places that can't be fished effectively with drift gear: undercut banks; upstream pockets, pool heads, etc.; back eddies; boulder gardens; canyon walls.

Oh, but really I just fish floats because I can't figure out what a bite feels like! :grin: It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with catching more fish. Swear. Really. Not kidding.

alwyze fishin · 12-05-2001, 06:47 PM

Bubzilla

thanks for the info

the next time I come on to hole that is holding bobber fisherman I will remember your words Tie UP the HOLE

Ok I am not the much of a A--

I will drift passed and throw my drift set up right below you to where you have pushed those few fish

bait boy · 12-05-2001, 06:56 PM

Geez while youre at it why don't you Just Troll through Bobber water....

Bubzilla · 12-05-2001, 07:32 PM

alwyze fishin,

Are you sure you're not that big of an "A--"? I'm bettin' the jury is still out on that one! :grin:

Get Bit · 12-05-2001, 08:26 PM

AF,
I look at it in two categories. And when it comes right down to it probably more like four. The first two are Salmon vs. Steelhead. The second two categories are boat vs. bank fishing. If I'm fishing Salmon from a boat I'm back bouncing, bobber fishing, and running Kwikfish in that order.Driftfishing doesn't even come into play Salmon fishing except for Silvers. From the bank, I will bobber fish followed by driftfishing. In my opinion, driftfishing is far less effective then any of the other methods I mentioned for Salmon.
Steelhead are whole different ballgame. The boat thing finds me fishing plugs,
diver/bait ,driftfishing,and bobber/jig combos. My order of preference differs according to water clarity and level. When banking it I primarily driftfish and run a bobber/jig. Just my opinion. Would like to hear any others.
Get Bit

FISHFINDER · 12-05-2001, 08:46 PM

Question about bobber fishing for steelhead with bait...... do you still use weight to get the bait down to them? If so, don't you still have the problem of snagging up? I hope someone answers this because there is a lot of water that I wish I could fish but can't very effectively while drift fishing. I have been successful at the bobber and bait thing in ultra-low flow and water levels because I can get away with no weight. However, when fishing higher flows, the bait needs some weight to keep it down where the fish are.

FF

First Bite · 12-05-2001, 09:30 PM

I have pretty much switched over to float fishing year-round for both salmon and steelhead. Since doing so, my success ratio has gone through the roof. When the river levels are running on the low side, which has been a common occurence the past few years, float fishing allows you to cover all the water. I still love to drift fish for winter steelhead when the water is up and flowing but my first choice is to use a float.

Thill has recently come out with a float called the Premium steelheader that allows you to switch back and forth between float fishing and drift fishing. The float has a latex tubing that you simply roll back and insert your line into a notch and then roll back the tubing over the line. This way you can alternate between drift fishing and float fishing at will.

fishfinder

I use 1/4th-oz jigs and tip them with a sand shrimp tail and fish under a float. The heavier weight of the jig allows it to get down quickly. I rarely hang up on bottom and therefore spend more time fishing and less time rigging up.

Mark

Threemuch · 12-06-2001, 09:13 AM

Is there a good book or online resource for learning bobber techniques? I am new to this type of fishing and would like to learn it.

Bubzilla · 12-06-2001, 11:56 PM

Threemuch,

There are a couple books available from Amato Publications: "Float Fishing for Stealhead: Techniques & Tackle" by Dave Vedder; and "Steelhead Jig Fishing: Techniques & Tackle" by Dave Vedder and Drew Harthorn. STS magazine frequently has little tidbits as well.

Both of the books mentioned are pretty limited in their overall information--heck, they're only about 50 pages each with a lot of pictures. They will help quite a bit with learning basics, however.