HSUS files suit over Sea Lions

[Limbhanger]

Associated Press

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- The Humane Society of the United States, Wild Fish Conservancy and two citizens have filed suit in U.S. District Court to halt the authorized killing of sea lions at the base of Bonneville Dam in the Columbia River.
The lawsuit filed Monday had been filed in federal court in Washington D.C. last week but was withdrawn when the fish conservancy group asked to join it.


The National Marine Fisheries services has granted a request by Oregon and Washington to kill up to 85 animals a year over five years to protect endangered or threatened salmon runs.
The Humane Society says federal law allows killing sea lions when it is proved they have a "significant negative impact" on salmon. They called the permit to kill the animals "outrageous and patently illegal."
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[Mossyhorn]

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Hasn't it already been proven that they are causing a negative impact. What needs to be done is something to prevent anyone from filing a lawsuit whenever they darned well please.

[Norm]

Originally Posted by Mossyhorn

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The Humane Society says federal law allows killing sea lions when it is proved they have a "significant negative impact" on salmon. They called the permit to kill the animals "outrageous and patently illegal."
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Hasn't it already been proven that they are causing a negative impact. What needs to be done is something to prevent anyone from filing a lawsuit whenever they darned well please.[/quote]


Remember HSUS is PETA with a different name to hide behind. Maybe we can send HSUS the excess sea lions since they know better than the Biologists

[Oregonhunter]

As soon as the state got the OK F&G should have been out there doing some target practice. I still dont understand why we are waiting two weeks for Washington state to finish some report. They have got to know that this only gives anti groups time to file lawsuits?

My two anyways,

oh

[BlacktailBowhunter]

HSUS targeting Sportsmen again. Oh that's right they never stop.

What we need to do is start protesting the HSUS everytime they do this crap. We need to have well organized demonstrations with good spokes people.

Hell, let's introduce the public to our demonstration and have a salmon/wild game cook out.

Introduce the general public to some real organic food.

Limbhanger, you are such a Petaphobe. You know those people have no power. Hell, HSUS only brought in 132 Million last year. That's not enough to make any difference is it?

Haven't these guys on here convinced you that HSUS with their 132 million a year and PETA with their 30 million a year are no threat to Hunters and Anglers?

Pull up a chair at the dam and watch the sea lions feast while wildlife is managed in the court room by animal rights attorneys.

[BlacktailBowhunter]

Originally Posted by Oregonhunter

As soon as the state got the OK F&G should have been out there doing some target practice. I still dont understand why we are waiting two weeks for Washington state to finish some report. They have got to know that this only gives anti groups time to file lawsuits?

My two anyways,

oh

I can't say for sure, because I don't have any documentation to back this up, but if I had to guess based on Washington and Oregon's history, this is what I would come up with.

Oregon is scared to death of getting sued by the HSUS. HSUS has deep pockets and they use those deep pockets.

Washington has favored the animal rights activists on more than one occasion, take the ST Helens elk herd for example. 125 dead elk documented over a 3 week period, they were starving to death, and the WDFW would not issue permits to harvest them saying their numbers were stable. I do have this info.

Washington has several anti's in their mist. There was a bio busted for puting linx hair on a barbed wire fence to keep it off limits to hunters that is documented.

I would guess WDFW is using the study as a stall tactic. What the hell is there to study now after all these years this has been going on.

Like I said, not much for fact, just an opinion.

[Limbhanger]

Originally Posted by BlacktailBowhunter

Limbhanger, you are such a Petaphobe. You know those people have no power. Hell, HSUS only brought in 132 Million last year. That's not enough to make any difference is it?.

LOL......I wouldnt say PETA phobe as much as losing our rights phobe.

I'm just waiting for their next website......Pinnipedsarepeopletoo.com

[BrianMaguire]

The law suit don't mean jack, its what the judge does with it that mean something. Unless they can prove irreparable harm to sea lions, there is no way they will get an injunction, which is the only way that sea lions won't start being shot. The government however has done serious harm to their credibility by politizing science so who know how much credence the Judge will give to the evidence presented.

[Dave Smith]

This is another example of how the animal rights groups care NOTHING about animals. It's not about loving animals like they want everyone to believe, it's about hating hunters and hunting. They would prefer an animal to starve to death or be attacked by an inbalanced population of predatory animals than to be humanely shot and eaten by hunters and their families. They are so unbelievably removed from the natural world- it's sad- get a life- join nature, stop treading against it. What could be more arrogant than to believe that you as a human are above the natural world. That constitutes a God complex.

[Limbhanger]

Originally Posted by BrianMaguire

The law suit don't mean jack, its what the judge does with it that mean something. Unless they can prove irreparable harm to sea lions, there is no way they will get an injunction, which is the only way that sea lions won't start being shot. The government however has done serious harm to their credibility by politizing science so who know how much credence the Judge will give to the evidence presented.

I agree, but with an excess of a 100,000 million dollar budget and a crack team of lawers they know what they are doing. They seem to do these things to hold up the process, put attention to the their cause and to make it more expensive for all the parties to finally get the job done. Thanks to the media it also gives them indirect advertising which in Portland will bolster more support for which ever critter they are trying to save this week.

[Idahoan]

Originally Posted by Oregonhunter

As soon as the state got the OK F&G should have been out there doing some target practice. I still dont understand why we are waiting two weeks for Washington state to finish some report. They have got to know that this only gives anti groups time to file lawsuits?

My two anyways,

oh

[bo4elk]

Ya'all know that they are reading these posts too.

For those opposed to taking out a few problem seals, fish for a while. See what happens happens to the fishing when the first seal head pops up. Seals are not a native species of the mid-columbia founded by the Bonneville Dam.

[huntinwithlabs]

and I was hoping that a seal tag would have come with my Sportsman Pac.

Seriously, those concentrations of salmon are like a super electomagnet to the seals. Its Hometown Buffet, sushi style

[Butcher45]

HSUS=PETA=bunch of people with a lot of time to kill (since most of them don't work) with rich people paying the tab for them.

[Ildor]

Anyone up for herding a couple Orca's upstream?

[Pete]

Sorry, but this isn't a hunting topic, it's a fisheries topic. There is a thread on this topic on the main board. Please note, also that because of the sensitive and high profile nature of this topic, there are ground rules in the thread which everyone is expected to comply with.