Need Help: How much would you pay for this boat??

50 out · 03-09-2008, 02:41 PM

Hello all Dogs,
Its been a while since I've been on.
I have a chance to buy this boat and could not find a value for it on NADA. I was hoping the infamous Salty Dogs could help me out. Here are the stats;
R & B 1996 Offshore
All Aluminum
1500hrs(est)
26 ft
250 hp Mariner salt water motor
40 Mariner kicker w/ back deck steering
offshore brackett
minimal electronics
Duel axel trl w/brakes
Crab divot

Thanks for any help or advice and I too am looking forward to Halibut and Tuna season.
50 out

fish_on · 03-09-2008, 02:53 PM

30K ish

FisherJack · 03-09-2008, 02:54 PM

I have no clue as to how much she is worth, Jamie, but it looks like you could do some serious fishing in that machine. Look forward to seeing you out on the water this spring & summer.

No Fences · 03-09-2008, 03:55 PM

Hope it work out for you. Sure wouldn't be hard to find that one on the pond.

Moldy45 · 03-09-2008, 03:57 PM

Why would yo want to go Aluminum?
If you did a search you could probably find a great deal on a used striper!
all glass construction,high degree dead rise, and would go over or through waves like in the movie "The perfect storm"
I did a lot of searching before I bought my Striper and found out that all other makes are inferior to the overall build and capabilty of the Striper.

Ok all seriousness that looks like a salty boat for sure.
I wish I had something more to add to that but I have zero experience with a aluminum boat of that size.I am sure you will get some good info from the owners of there aluminum similar boats.
however it looks nice!

Sallysea · 03-09-2008, 04:22 PM

If that is an original two cycle engine, it could be a real gas burner. Might try to buy the boat without the engine and/or plan to upgrade.

Smoked Salmon · 03-09-2008, 04:43 PM

26 feet? Are you sure? I mean, it looks plenty big enough and well proportioned, but I see it as 24' max. Also, what is the width of the boat? That makes a huge difference in a slight slop, which seems to characterize most of our fishing days...

Angus · 03-09-2008, 04:58 PM

40 horse kicker

olybirds · 03-09-2008, 05:42 PM

1500 hrs on a Mariner... Woohoo!!

Thats a nice looking ride, but I'd have to expect a Re Power would be in order.

Got any interior pics???

ron m · 03-09-2008, 05:53 PM

Jamie, I don't have much of an idea about the value, but the motor would be a big part of it. if you have to repower, then you're looking at probably 15K or moe in addition to the electronics.

One suggestion, if you are serious about buying it, arrange to take it to a shop and have them do a through diagonistic on the motor. Ya gotta have a dependable motor going offshore.

Is it self bailing deck? I hope so.
if ya get that, then I guess you won't be crewing wth me ever again!
good luck,
ron m

Bluefinn · 03-09-2008, 05:57 PM

If that is a 40 hp kicker I would be worried about all that weight on one side.you want to run this thing and see how it does.Marineer are not known for being the best of motors(basicaly a 2 stroke Merc.).Listen to what others have said plan on a repower in the next few years.It looks like a good hull and would be an awesome boat with a new 4 stroke.If you can buy it right and repower later.It might not be a bad set up.I would say 20k would be a good buy.I hope you can run it first and see how the hull performs.How much fuel does it hold?

Bait O' Eggs · 03-09-2008, 06:13 PM

That boat looks about 22 feet,

With the motor hours, its worth little to nothing,

1996 boat and trailer, maybe high 20's is my guess

Something Good · 03-09-2008, 07:37 PM

I wouldn't pay more than $30K and that's if I really liked it. $25K would be a good buy if the boat itself is in good condition. Looks like a pretty flat bottom. Take a ride in some slop if you can to make sure you will be happy with the ride.

gerberman · 03-09-2008, 07:45 PM

I know this boat, and it has been on the Cook Inlet in Alaska, so it is a great Salty Boat. It was just repainted and vinal sided, Yea a four stroke would be a great addition. Sorry to hear the former owner passed away.

Two Fister · 03-09-2008, 09:09 PM

This is based solely on the excessive amount of time I spend looking at used boats. The used market is supposed to be down a bit because new boat sales are way, way off. That being said, most folks with used boats apparently haven't gotten that memo.

Kind of like houses; people think their houses are worth what they thought at the top of the market even though values are dropping. Boats are worse in some senses as they are sold in a vacuum without comparables. At least with houses you can see the place down the street that isn't selling at less than "market value".

If it's 26' (not including the offshore bracket) it's going to be worth a lot more than $30K. With the price of aluminum skyrocketing (along with everything else) you'll have a hard time finding a hull for that kind of price. New 26' aluminum boats with offshore brackets are selling for $80K without power, electronics, or any other features. And that's if you get a good deal. Add a pair of 4 strokes, electronics, downriggers, etc. and the price goes way over $100K.

I'd buy it with the intention of upgrading the motors and electronics. That being said, I'd say you'd be closer to +/- $40K easy.

TF

Chrome Bumper · 03-09-2008, 09:41 PM

Looks like they included the bow pulpit and engine bracket in the number.
Aluminum is going up with energy. 12-13 year old boat
20 boat and trailer
4 big motor
2 little motor
1 misc
37k total cash after a survey
Lines like an Arima. Like the front door.

Hard to tell how big it really is, is that a ford ranger next to it?

Mypursuit · 03-09-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrome Bumper

Looks like they included the bow pulpit and engine bracket in the number.
Aluminum is going up with energy. 12-13 year old boat
21 boat
4 big motor
2 little motor
1 misc
28k total cash after a survey
Lines like an Arima. Like the front door.

I'm sure you meant that in the highest of praise

mitch · 03-10-2008, 07:03 AM

If you could, I would like to know the weight and performance with the 250. Thinking of repowering my 26' Islander with a 250. If you are serious about buying then get that engine worked up and try a test ride or two. As the others are saying, engines are painfully expensive but I doubt repowering is an economical decision. However, it might be a pricing gambit if you are negotiating a deal.

Onokai · 03-10-2008, 08:11 AM

I have had two 250 horse motors and I can say that both those old timers have very little value and will drink gas like an alki at a free drinks bar
Plan on spending another 19 k to replace both with newer 4 stroke stuff . If the price is still cheap on hull then its worth it. Also throw in another 2k on new controls and gauges-almost forgot that stuff so thats 21k-if the hull is say 5-7k then its a go. Mark

Chrome Bumper · 03-10-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mypursuit

I'm sure you meant that in the highest of praise

Efficient low dead rise seaworthy hull, nice layout.

spooner · 03-10-2008, 12:14 PM

1500 hr is a lot of hrs for a out board.

Tuna Dog · 03-10-2008, 01:31 PM

Mid-20's tops....

Major negative is the high hours on a not so popular motor could mean big bucks added to the cost in the near future.

Sure a new boat is expensive because of the high cost of aluminum but as a used 13 yr. old boat it's only worth so much...

Duckworth Dave · 03-11-2008, 05:57 AM

Prices are much softer on the east coast & Florida. Plus metal boats are lite & cold. The weight of a plastic boat makes for a way better ride. I brought a 30' Stamas from Florida with twin 250efi yamies with under 30 hour on each motor. I called the old owner and he spent $44 grand on the repower and I bought the whole boat with good electronics shipped to Garibaldi for way less than the cost of a repower. Go east and save big dollars.

Grady252 · 03-11-2008, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Duckworth Dave

Prices are much softer on the east coast & Florida. Plus metal boats are lite & cold. The weight of a plastic boat makes for a way better ride. I brought a 30' Stamas from Florida with twin 250efi yamies with under 30 hour on each motor. I called the old owner and he spent $44 grand on the repower and I bought the whole boat with good electronics shipped to Garibaldi for way less than the cost of a repower. Go east and save big dollars.

That guy got jacked...... When I priced the re-power on my old Grady Verados with Elctronic throttle and steering was $38K, Yamahas were 34K, and Suzukies were 31K......

44K?? Oh Well at least you got a deal if he didn't....

I would think the aluminum hull giving no value to either of the motors would be around $25K, then you can add $5K in electronics, $25K for new single outboard and smaller kicker, and you will be into a used boat for $55K..... Or talk to Capt. Kujo.... he may have a better deal going!!

CATCH AND EAT · 03-11-2008, 06:23 AM

$!5,000 would be about All I'd pay. At least $20 to repower and set up.

Two Fister · 03-11-2008, 08:24 AM

One thing I'm noticing in this thread is that the guys with glass boats are saying it's worth a lot less than the guys with aluminum boats.

Imagine that!

gonfishenagin · 03-11-2008, 09:10 PM

As the builder of this boat i will say that 1st its only a 24' boat including outboard motor bracket, it has an 84"x .250 5086 bottom and 3/16 sides. Gary (the former owner died feb 29th) used this boat for guiding Halibut and salmon trips out of Anchor point in Alaska. the boat was refurbished winter before last with a new paint job inside and vynal on the outside. the 250 hp mariner had a new powerhead installed 5 yrs ago i think and the lower unit was replaced 4 yrs ago. i would not place much value on the motors. That same boat new today i sell for $75,000 plus the motors. That boat new 11 yrs ago was $50k with motors. If you would like any more info on this boat PM me and I will be glad to give you any info i have
Jim

Grady252 · 03-12-2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

One thing I'm noticing in this thread is that the guys with glass boats are saying it's worth a lot less than the guys with aluminum boats.

Imagine that!

My value was not based upon what I own.... it was based upon what I think the package would be worth after he is done installing new power and electronics..... a 12 year old boat this size complete ready to go would sell for $45-65K, so you certainly would not want to spend so much that you could not get your value...... you could go buy a new Raider for $75K with new power on a trailer......

I was thinking back to the boat show a month ago...... if you are going to spend too much you might as well get a new 26' NR Offshore for $100K, rather than a 12 year old no name that you have to refit before you can use it.......

Grady252 · 03-12-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gonfishenagin

As the builder of this boat i will say that 1st its only a 24' boat including outboard motor bracket, it has an 84"x .250 5086 bottom and 3/16 sides. Gary (the former owner died feb 29th) used this boat for guiding Halibut and salmon trips out of Anchor point in Alaska. the boat was refurbished winter before last with a new paint job inside and vynal on the outside. the 250 hp mariner had a new powerhead installed 5 yrs ago i think and the lower unit was replaced 4 yrs ago. i would not place much value on the motors. That same boat new today i sell for $75,000 plus the motors. That boat new 11 yrs ago was $50k with motors. If you would like any more info on this boat PM me and I will be glad to give you any info i have
Jim

This makes it a 22' boat with an offshore bracket by my standards..... I don't know how or where your market is, but I have not known to many guys that will buy a 22' hull for $75K.....You can buy a lot of boats with power for that price......

$50K complete package when new..... probably worth $20K now..... with worn out motors....

Two Fister · 03-12-2008, 08:02 AM

Grady252,
I understand what you are saying and agree with most of it. It's just that I'm currently looking for a used aluminum boat and the prices that some folks are asking amazing. Several of the boats that I've looked at were likely substantially less money when they were brand new and they haven't been repowered or significantly upgraded. I, of course, walk away from those boats but it seems like I'm walking away from more and more boats.

Given that some of the big manufacturers are sitting on a lot of inventory I may start looking at new boats. Their prices are way, way down and I'm seeing new boats for a lot less than 2-3 year old boats on the used market. The only problem is that buying a new boat flies in the face of my cheap, tight arse, Scrooge like sensibilities.

TF

Grady252 · 03-12-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

Grady252,
I understand what you are saying and agree with most of it. It's just that I'm currently looking for a used aluminum boat and the prices that some folks are asking amazing. Several of the boats that I've looked at were likely substantially less money when they were brand new and they haven't been repowered or significantly upgraded. I, of course, walk away from those boats but it seems like I'm walking away from more and more boats.

Given that some of the big manufacturers are sitting on a lot of inventory I may start looking at new boats. Their prices are way, way down and I'm seeing new boats for a lot less than 2-3 year old boats on the used market. The only problem is that buying a new boat flies in the face of my cheap, tight arse, Scrooge like sensibilities.

TF

I feel your pain.... it's really hard when guys want new prices for old.... just because a new one is X doesn't mean the used one is worth the same amount..... Good luck on your search....

Chesapeake · 03-12-2008, 08:28 AM

24' (I'm calling it 24 because the full bottom extends the length of the bracket. Well its not realy a bracket at all, more like a split transom like on a Pollard or Harbor craft.)

So......

=>Reconditioned 24' river boat with strange addition to the front sides (maybe 18deg. V with about the same entry, swept down sides instead of swept up)
=>Full cab
=>dual steer
=>crab davit
=>Galvanized trailer in decent shape

I would guess the hull to be worth 25-30K without the motors if its in great shape. It would cost you that just to build the hull today. The motors should come with the hull for FREE.

Its like old fiberglass runabouts. You buy the motor and the boat comes with it. Aluminum seems to be the oposite. You buy the hull and the motors come free.

Speaking of used prices. I see the same, 2 or 3 year old boats with an asking price more than the original price and only a few grand shy of a new boat.

If you got it for $30K and spent $15 to repower you would be at 45K and right at the new boat prices for a comparable boat. But you would have a used boat and used trailer with a reduced resale value.

I agree with Grady252 on this one, $20K tops. If your financing you will also need to consider the likely higher intrest rate for used.

Two Fister · 03-12-2008, 08:48 AM

Just for a little reference, $20K is just slightly more than the scrap value of the aluminum and the value of the trailer....

Chesapeake · 03-12-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

Just for a little reference, $20K is just slightly more than the scrap value of the aluminum and the value of the trailer....

I'm going to guess that boat at around the 3500-3700# mark (bare hull). I dont know the price of scrap plate aluminum, but it would have to be neer $4 a pound, or the trailer is worth a pretty penny for your figures to work out.

New price on the aluminum in the boat is probably right neer $10K.

Smoked Salmon · 03-12-2008, 11:39 AM

If you, the OP, are still reading, I suspect that you really want this boat, otherwise you would have been talked out of it already. You know that it is not 26', and really is only 22, despite an offshore bracket. You also have heard many folks say the boat needs re-powering. And you mentioned minimal electronics, so there is another 8k. Proper safety gear, another few bucks. You could probably get away with one year on the salt without major money, but there is always a risk, especially with one main engine at that age. I would HATE to think anyone would run a 40hp all the way in from the tuna fields.
I would seriously consider taking the prevailing advice. It seems overwhelmingly in favor of paying a price that is lower than I suspect you saw on the sticker.

Bill

Two Fister · 03-12-2008, 01:40 PM

Ummm...not my boat dude. No interest whatsoever on my part.

I was estimating 4,000 pounds for hull weight as it is made from .25 aluminum plate. Last time I checked, 4,000 * $4.00/pound = $16,000 (I even checked my sophisticated equation with a calculator)

Double axle trailer looks to be in good shape - $2,000

So if I can crunch the numbers of my extensive and complex analytical calculations $16,000 + $2,000 = $18,000 or slightly less than $20,000. I feel safe in qualifying a $2,000 difference as slightly less. If someone has a significant problem with that then I think there are other problems at hand that I am not qualified to handle.

I think it looks like a nice boat that's in good shape. Not anything that I'd be interested in as I am looking for something smaller that handles the 90% of my fishing better than the 10% of time I might get to the coast. I'm happy to pay Nalu for that 10% as it's much cheaper for me than maintaining a big ocean boat here in the high desert. I do think, however, that it is a solid looking design that would be pretty versitle. R&B Boats are well made and well respected, even if they aren't a major manufacturer. I personally find that highly preferable to a boat made on an assembly line. IMHO, by throwing out numbers that are unrealistic you are setting 50out up for some failed negotiations.

Remember Saltwater Cowboys Maxweld at Motion Marine that I posted just about a year ago? 22' with offshore bracket, hardtop, no engine of any kind, no steering, no electronics, no trailer, had been in a serious car accident that had smashed the trailer out from beneath it that they kind of forgot to mention, etc. Their asking price at the time was more than $20,000 and aluminum prices have shot through the roof since then.

I'm not saying that it's worth $50K, but IMHO it's worth more than scrap metal give or take $2,000.

TF

Mark Mc · 03-12-2008, 02:00 PM

One more thing to consider:

Up until a few months ago, there were already a lot of very good quality used boats on the market. Now, with the impending ocean salmon closure (or severe cutback), and $4 a gallon gas, you can be sure that there will be even more boats for sale this year. This is especially true in Northern California (SF Bay & north).

If you spends some time tracking the SF Bay Craigslist, and sites such as Coastside Fishing Club (classifieds), you will see what I mean.

It is becoming more of a buyers market, not less. Time is on your side.

Chesapeake · 03-12-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

Ummm...not my boat dude. No interest whatsoever on my part.

I was estimating 4,000 pounds for hull weight as it is made from .25 aluminum plate. Last time I checked, 4,000 * $4.00/pound = $16,000 (I even checked my sophisticated equation with a calculator)

Double axle trailer looks to be in good shape - $2,000

So if I can crunch the numbers of my extensive and complex analytical calculations $16,000 + $2,000 = $18,000 or slightly less than $20,000. I feel safe in qualifying a $2,000 difference as slightly less. If someone has a significant problem with that then I think there are other problems at hand that I am not qualified to handle.

I think it looks like a nice boat that's in good shape. Not anything that I'd be interested in as I am looking for something smaller that handles the 90% of my fishing better than the 10% of time I might get to the coast. I'm happy to pay Nalu for that 10% as it's much cheaper for me than maintaining a big ocean boat here in the high desert. I do think, however, that it is a solid looking design that would be pretty versitle. R&B Boats are well made and well respected, even if they aren't a major manufacturer. I personally find that highly preferable to a boat made on an assembly line. IMHO, by throwing out numbers that are unrealistic you are setting 50out up for some failed negotiations.

Remember Saltwater Cowboys Maxweld at Motion Marine that I posted just about a year ago? 22' with offshore bracket, hardtop, no engine of any kind, no steering, no electronics, no trailer, had been in a serious car accident that had smashed the trailer out from beneath it that they kind of forgot to mention, etc. Their asking price at the time was more than $20,000 and aluminum prices have shot through the roof since then.

I'm not saying that it's worth $50K, but IMHO it's worth more than scrap metal give or take $2,000.

TF

Ummmm!!!!!!! I think you missed the point of my post. New straight from the supplier 5086 aluminum plate currently runs $3 a pound(maybe 1/4 total weight of boat) and 5052 plate runs $2.60 a pound.

With your figure of $4.00 a pound for scrap I could go to Alaskan and buy aluminum, drive it down to Schnitzer and trade it in to turn a tidy profit.

IMHO I doubt the guy will get that boat for much less than 30K. I'm just trying to point out that it may or may not be a good purchase, and its more than likely not a great deal at 30K.

But I dont think he has even stated an asking price. So who knows.

Ultimatley he will have to decide "What its worth to him", becasue that is the only valid answer. What we think means nothing, unless he only plans to buy and then sell the boat.

Two Fister · 03-12-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chesapeake

Ummmm!!!!!!! I think you missed the point of my post. New straight from the supplier 5086 aluminum plate currently runs $3 a pound(maybe 1/4 total weight of boat) and 5052 plate runs $2.60 a pound

Cheaspeake,
I was using the prices from Cap't Kujos post about the new boat he is building. His prices included cutting. My bad. Your posts in the same thread did a good job explaining why it will be hard for CK to build a 22' boat for less than $50K. A lot of those same points apply to the value of a well built used boat.

There are a lot details missing to be able to accurately determine what the boat is worth. IMHO, it is worth somewhere between $25K and $35K depending on where it's located, what kind of shape the interior is in, how much you can get for the motors as parts (worth more that way than whole), what electronics are included and their quality, etc. Then again, I'm not looking at comparables. I'd guess there aren't a lot to compare it to.

Anywho, I'm going to follow Marks lead and look for a boat in NorCal.

Have fun,
TF

Chesapeake · 03-12-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

Cheaspeake,
I was using the prices from Cap't Kujos post about the new boat he is building. His prices included cutting. My bad. Your posts in the same thread did a good job explaining why it will be hard for CK to build a 22' boat for less than $50K. A lot of those same points apply to the value of a well built used boat.

There are a lot details missing to be able to accurately determine what the boat is worth. IMHO, it is worth somewhere between $25K and $35K depending on where it's located, what kind of shape the interior is in, how much you can get for the motors as parts (worth more that way than whole), what electronics are included and their quality, etc. Then again, I'm not looking at comparables. I'd guess there aren't a lot to compare it to.

Anywho, I'm going to follow Marks lead and look for a boat in NorCal.

Have fun,
TF

I see, I thought we were talking scrap prices not computer cut new material. These conversations work better face to face over a brew.

I'de agree with the $25K here and $35K in Alaska.

Grady252 · 03-12-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Fister

Just for a little reference, $20K is just slightly more than the scrap value of the aluminum and the value of the trailer....

Scrap prices are different than even pure weight clean sheets.... scrap is $1.00 per pound for clean scrap.... your post did say scrap value.... "last time you checked* $4.00 per pound"

That would make the hull worth $4k scap value..... $16K C&C cut ready to assemble, and probably $12K if you bought sheets of Aluminum......

No name boats are harder to sell........ keep that in mind no matter what you look at or buy.....

Baxter · 03-12-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady252

...No name boats are harder to sell...

That is certainly true but this isn't exactly a "no name" boat. The builder posted to this thread; RB Boats. I know that you mean "less popular boats", but realize that this is a professionally built boat with a builder who still takes an interest 11 years later. And it looks to have alot more care and work into it than most popular production boats. This isn't some fool's tone-deaf, back yard project, full of half-baked and untried ideas. In other words.

If I were in the market for this type of boat I would try to get it for a price similar to other more ubiquitous production models and be very happy to have a custom, professional product for the same money.

--Lee

Grady252 · 03-12-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baxter

That is certainly true but this isn't exactly a "no name" boat. The builder posted to this thread; RB Boats. I know that you mean "less popular boats", but realize that this is a professionally built boat with a builder who still takes an interest 11 years later.
--Lee

Totally agree..... Sorry for not being more clear. I certainly don't think this looks like a back yard project.... the lines of the cabin look a little less conventional and a little boxy to me, but looks clean.

Baxter · 03-12-2008, 07:35 PM

And just to be clear myself, I don't have generalized contempt for "backyard" projects either. But as a backyard builder myself, I know that it takes alot of self-education, effort, and discipline to build a boat that can be loved by more than just its mother. So to speak.

I have an increased respect for professional designers and builders after confronting design and build problems myself. I know how easily it can go wrong.

--Lee

Two Fister · 03-12-2008, 08:55 PM

Grady252,
R&B Boats are pretty well respected for quality in the Pacific Northwest aluminum boat building industry. Maybe not a household name, but the folks that spend time behind a welders mask or trying to build decent or better quality boats know who they are.

Sorry for the confusion over the price of scrap metal.
TF

Paddler · 03-12-2008, 09:03 PM

Here's another way to think about this boat. It's basically a 22' (or less, as it appears that the anchor roller is included in the overall length) with O/S bracket and a hard top. So, what's a Hewescraft 22' Ocean Pro hull worth new? Is this boat worth more than a new OP, or less? What's an 11 year old trailer worth? More than $1500? The motors aren't worth much, if anything. Mariner is a second tier maker, and I wouldn't pay for a used, rebuilt second tier motor.

Life is too short to pay much for this boat. I certainly wouldn't pay more than $15K-$20K, and probably closer to $15K. It would need to be completely gone through to ensure reliability, plus new motors, electronics, etc, plus trailer inspection/repair. Figure $20K-$25K to put this boat in the water, on top of your purchase price. And this is from an aluminum boat owner.

Bob5292 · 03-12-2008, 09:53 PM

I don't know anything about the builder and their quality, but I don't think comparing it to a Hewes or Raider really seems fair. The hulls look just about the same but it sounds like these guys are building a bit more "commercial grade" boat. The Hewes 22 OP uses a .190 5086 bottom and very thin .125 inch 5052 sides and the Raiders in that size, spec out the same. I bought a Raider at the Seattle boat show last year an it was literally slapped together. I only paid about 65k for a 26' cuddy with a 250 Etec, a self bailing deck, and plenty of options, but it wouldn't have held up to my use. There is a big difference between a heavy gauge boat like this and what its being compared to.

Bob Tully

retaliate · 03-13-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob5292

I don't know anything about the builder and their quality, but I don't think comparing it to a Hewes or Raider really seems fair. The hulls look just about the same but it sounds like these guys are building a bit more "commercial grade" boat. The Hewes 22 OP uses a .190 5086 bottom and very thin .125 inch 5052 sides and the Raiders in that size, spec out the same. I bought a Raider at the Seattle boat show last year an it was literally slapped together. I only paid about 65k for a 26' cuddy with a 250 Etec, a self bailing deck, and plenty of options, but it wouldn't have held up to my use. There is a big difference between a heavy gauge boat like this and what its being compared to.

Bob Tully

Yep! big difference between .250 vrs .190 botton, & .190 5086 vrs .125 5052 sides. RB is known for Quality, & that is a quality looking Boat, However it will need new Motors befor long.

CATCH AND EAT · 03-13-2008, 09:30 AM

Look, it is worth what your the buyer and he the seller is will to offer and take. Nothing more, nothing less. Be wise in your purchase. There has been both good and bad information given here. For me personally 15K max but that is me. I'm thinking about the repower, electronics and so on. Big $$$$$$ items to pay for on top of a boat with worn out motors.

The motors have some salvage value in the fact they have had work done. Perhaps the owner of the boat will take them off and sell the seperate. Just an idea.

Two Fister · 03-13-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CATCH AND EAT

The motors have some salvage value in the fact they have had work done. Perhaps the owner of the boat will take them off and sell the seperate. Just an idea.

That's the same approach I'm trying to work on an Almar that was repowered with a FICHT. The owner thinks it's a great motor, and it may be, but it has ZERO resale value. He wants to get another boat and I'm trying to get him to keep the motor for his new boat. That may kill the deal, but so be it. There will always be another boat for sale.

Boats are worth what you are willing to pay. If it's not enough then there is likely someone out there that is willing to pay more. You have to be patient when selling. Sometimes you have to know when to wait for another buyer, or conversely, when to walk away from a boat that you really like that is overpriced. You have to be patient when buying.

Unfortunately, I'm running out of patience...

TF