New Ifish Proposal

[bigjake_888]

I propose a new I fish forum of:

"Guns and Ammo"

It seems like the forum of hunting gets intermixed with this kind of stuff and there can be a benifit of keeping them seperate.

[SImudBogger]

i like that idea

+1

[baltz526]

lets not go there

[ORhunter]

Maybe:

If folks wouldn't hijack a topic it wouldn't be necessary.

We might also need one for retrievers, one for pointing dogs or one for rifles and one for shotguns. One for big game hunting, one for varmints, one for upland hunting, one for waterfowl.

[baltz526]

lots of gun/reloading/shooting/shotgun type sites on the internet. lots of good ones. if you need a fix, some great guys on the nosler site, shotgunworld, 24hr campfire, and on and on. why make more headaches for moderators here

[Rauly]

Originally Posted by baltz526

lots of gun/reloading/shooting/shotgun type sites on the internet. lots of good ones. if you need a fix, some great guys on the nosler site, shotgunworld, 24hr campfire, and on and on. why make more headaches for moderators here

[baltz526]

PS: you might figure out who natty bumpo really is (no it is not me, way above my pay grade), but i have my suspisions

[sealgal2008]

Maybe its a seasonal thing, hunting may be big in the fall but shooting bigger in the spring and summer.

Cheers
Betty

[traks44]

Originally Posted by baltz526

lots of gun/reloading/shooting/shotgun type sites on the internet. lots of good ones. if you need a fix, some great guys on the nosler site, shotgunworld, 24hr campfire, and on and on. why make more headaches for moderators here

AGREE!

Leave it be, Not interested in a topic then dont look. IFish is perfect the way it is IMO, and I frequent ALOT of boards. Some boards try and expand it makes things to big and far less community oriented.

Jenny has a great thing here, NEVER change it!!!

[Ryan Pultz]

if the toaster is not broke dont go sticking a fork in there rp

[No Fences]

I'm with Baltz on this one.

[Big Billy]

wouldn't that kinda be like having a rod & reel only forum??????

[PIR8 Hook]

Originally Posted by baltz526

PS: you might figure out who natty bumpo really is (no it is not me, way above my pay grade), but i have my suspisions

Well, "Natty" Nathaniel Bumpo is "Hawkeye" from James Fenemore Cooper's Leatherstocking tales including "Last of the Mohicans" & "The Deerslayer", Baltz. You can be my "gun guru" & I'll be your liturature "Phone-A- Friend"....between us we know everthing that is worth knowing.....Right Baltz?

[WiskeyJaR]

Originally Posted by bigjake_888

I propose a new I fish forum of:

"Guns and Ammo"

It seems like the forum of hunting gets intermixed with this kind of stuff and there can be a benifit of keeping them seperate.

I like this idea. Sure ifish is great the way it is, but whats wrong with improvement? There is way more different "forums" for fishing, but only one on hunting? Yes I know this is a "fishing forum" hence the name iFISH :P) But lots of fishermen have "shooting" interests too.
As for "more problems for the Mods"....I think there would be enough interest that Jennie, or who ever, could get volunteers to mod on the new forums. Sure their are all kinds of web sites out there for "guns and ammo", but then there are also a bunch of "rod and reel" sites out there too, why do we need one here, just a nother forum the mods have to watch.

just me

[Big Unit]

I think we should leave AS IS.

I hunt more than shoot. I don't get into ballistics and stuff. BUT if I want info, it's fairly quick and accessable. I do read some posts, but not a lot. I probably would miss a lot if it was in another area.

Good idea, but it's easy to just skip over the guns and ammo threads.


BU

[Bob-Burr]

I think it is a great idea.
I also have a suggestion, how about those who don't "like" the idea because they are not intersted in a "Guns and Ammo"forum keep their personal feelings out of the equation and just not respond on this thread at all. Why would you come on here and say you don't like the idea because you are not interested? Is it all about you and your likes?
How many of you "like" the chapel? "rod and reel"? "fly fishing"? "recipes"? etc....
I don't think any one of the members hold interest in ALL the forums do they?
Instead of being a naysayer and giving your opinion about something you have no interest in or speak for others for browny points and "think" it will be to much work for the mods/admin just keep that opinion to your self and not discourage others from having an idea. As for being to much "work" maybe one of those that like the idea will step up and offer to keep an eye on things if the forum gets the ok.

[bigjake_888]

It aint broke anyway...

[nehalemguy]

No. We are fragmented enough already.

E

[mpmax]

Sure, what do guns and ammo have to do with hunting anyway?

Leave it alone.

[DRUNK COWBOY]

I think before we do that "Guns and Ammo" we should have a "Waterfowl" page.

[ORhunter]

I think ihunt goes hand in hand with ifish. Lots of us do both and for those who don't, that's fine.

[Headhunter]

What gun and ammo should I use to waterfowl hunt?

Originally Posted by DRUNK COWBOY

I think before we do that "Guns and Ammo" we should have a "Waterfowl" page.

[Mello-Yello]

Originally Posted by Bob-Burr

I think it is a great idea.
I also have a suggestion, how about those who don't "like" the idea because they are not intersted in a "Guns and Ammo"forum keep their personal feelings out of the equation and just not respond on this thread at all. Why would you come on here and say you don't like the idea because you are not interested? Is it all about you and your likes?
How many of you "like" the chapel? "rod and reel"? "fly fishing"? "recipes"? etc....
I don't think any one of the members hold interest in ALL the forums do they?
Instead of being a naysayer and giving your opinion about something you have no interest in or speak for others for browny points and "think" it will be to much work for the mods/admin just keep that opinion to your self and not discourage others from having an idea. As for being to much "work" maybe one of those that like the idea will step up and offer to keep an eye on things if the forum gets the ok.

I think the idea of someone asking what people think is to get everyone's opinion? Seems sorta senseless to only have those that agree........agree.

[StevenB]

Originally Posted by nehalemguy

No. We are fragmented enough already.

E

I like that every aspect or topic of hunting is stuffed onto one section.

Sure we can click on New Posts and review a wide discussion base. It seems to work for all the fishing categories. Unlike hunting fishing is not trying to be put down at every turn by many. There are too many IMO who know hunting and personal weapons to be of no use. To me ifish (by accident or on purpose) has put hunting and weapon topics in the best possible place. Surrounded by fishing, life, & thoughtfulness. IMO a lot of the sense of thoughtfulness comes from us all being in the same boat.

All topics on hunting or weapons (for hunting or not) can and do exist here. The big plus in that is topics one might never think to read about can be an interesting topic in the hunting section.

Thanks to ifish hunting forum I know and understand the passions of far more people who shoot and hunt. In my case that means people who are shooting birds of any kind for example.

Spin off a waterfowl section and my exposure to duck hunting and duck hunters amounts to what is on or in the news.

In turn I like tha there are duck hunters learning about big game hunting in real time.

If hunting & weapons were not recovering from years of abuse (Abuse from good intentioned people who want no one to hunt and/or have a weapon) I'd vote Yay to adding all sorts of hunting or weapon divisions. For now, let's think of our diverse definition of the hunting division of ifish as a blessing.

[Ryan Pultz]

Originally Posted by Bob-Burr

I think it is a great idea.
I also have a suggestion, how about those who don't "like" the idea because they are not intersted in a "Guns and Ammo"forum keep their personal feelings out of the equation and just not respond on this thread at all. Why would you come on here and say you don't like the idea because you are not interested? Is it all about you and your likes?
How many of you "like" the chapel? "rod and reel"? "fly fishing"? "recipes"? etc....
I don't think any one of the members hold interest in ALL the forums do they?
Instead of being a naysayer and giving your opinion about something you have no interest in or speak for others for browny points and "think" it will be to much work for the mods/admin just keep that opinion to your self and not discourage others from having an idea. As for being to much "work" maybe one of those that like the idea will step up and offer to keep an eye on things if the forum gets the ok.

Ahh but that is the joy of ifish we can share our opinions. And well seeing you have not been here long I would suggest you give it a few years before telling others how and what they should do. ohh and browny is spelled Brownie rp

[Ryan Pultz]

Originally Posted by Bob-Burr

I think it is a great idea.
I also have a suggestion, how about those who don't "like" the idea because they are not intersted in a "Guns and Ammo"forum keep their personal feelings out of the equation and just not respond on this thread at all. Why would you come on here and say you don't like the idea because you are not interested? Is it all about you and your likes?
How many of you "like" the chapel? "rod and reel"? "fly fishing"? "recipes"? etc....
I don't think any one of the members hold interest in ALL the forums do they?
Instead of being a naysayer and giving your opinion about something you have no interest in or speak for others for browny points and "think" it will be to much work for the mods/admin just keep that opinion to your self and not discourage others from having an idea. As for being to much "work" maybe one of those that like the idea will step up and offer to keep an eye on things if the forum gets the ok.

Ahh but that is the joy of ifish we can share our opinions. ohh and browny is spelled Brownie rp

[StevenB]

Originally Posted by Ryan Pultz

Ahh but that is the joy of ifish we can share our opinions. ohh and browny is spelled Brownie rp

Hey Ryan. Bob Burrr to his credit has been on ifish since 2002. I don't think 60 posts is a lot of interaction so I think this topic means a lot to him.

The fellow who started this thread joined two years back.

Maybe I ought to have PMed you this info Ryan but it's 1:38am in Alaska. There must be just 6 of us active on ifish rright now.

[QH's Paw]

Originally Posted by DRUNK COWBOY

I think before we do that "Guns and Ammo" we should have a "Waterfowl" page.

About a year ago, I suggested this(waterfowl forum) in a thread I started . Things got out of hand in that discussion and Jennie ended up getting involved before it was over. The thread got locked and we were told in the future to bring the new"forum" ideas up directly with Mods in PM before throwing it out on the board for discussion. I'm surprised this thread is still up. The thread I started wasn't just locked , it was removed. I searched for it in all my threads and it no longer exists. There were a number of people who made comments they didn't waterfowl but, they enjoyed the posts and pictures related to it. Some of these peolpe stated they probably wouldn't look in on the "fowl" forum if by itself.
I would think there would be far more interest or activity in a waterfowl or archery page than guns and ammo. I'm just going on my own observation of actual numbr of threads and replies.

[Cliff D.]

The way it's set up now i get exposure to topics i wouldn't normally look at. Helps me see things from other perpectives.If you want specific topics there are many other places to narrow your focus. I think it's Pilars tag line (Specialazation is for insects).

[Cornbread]

It ain't broke, don't monkey with it.

Besides have you ever moderated or admined on a BB board like this? I have for what used to be the world's largest CAD programming site, so I speak from experience. The more fragmented the board is, the harder it is to moderate and without good moderation a board quickly becomes spam and troll filled and the users start to go away and or the general experience is lessened for the group as a whole.

Most moderators on public BB boards are volunteers. I am not sure if the ones on iFish are or not but if they are you are just asking some one who is doing something for free to go one step further and do more for you for nothing. It isn't a very fair trade for people who already are probably taxed to their end by how many forums are on this board as is.

I have seen this hundreds of times on other boards. It is the "wouldn't it be neat, shiny object" syndrome by people who aren't the ones that have to do the work. The problem is people don't realize how much work goes into a BB board by admins and moderators nor do they realize that on a really active board there is generally less than 2% of the people using the site that actually pitch in and help with any of the tasks involved with keeping the site up and running smoothly. If you really think the change would be of good benefit to the majority of the users PM your idea privately to the admins of the site and get their take on it and then see where it goes.

When I used to Admin CAD Encoding I had a forum called "the suggestion box" where users could submit ideas for the board but you could only post an idea and respond to stuff in an idea you had posted. If you weren't the original post maker you couldn't comment on someone else's idea only the admins could. This kept shiny object syndrome to a minimum and once in a blue eon a user would come up with a good idea and we would implement it. Then if I or another admin or moderator spotted a thread like this on the forums I would simply move it to "The suggestion box".

In the end for a better example of what you are asking think about it this way. You have a friend and they open up their house every Friday for a neighborhood party. You use their house for free and you have a great time. Then one day you decide you want a special room in their house to talk with your personal friends about your personal stuff so you tell the owner of the house to build a new room just for you, just because you want them too even though it doesn't benefit the community a whole and then instead of directly asking the owner of the house you publicly ask all the guests if they would like a new room and if they do you some how hope that will convince the owner to do it for you. Kind of rude, isn't it?

There are better ways to go about effecting change if change is needed on a public BB board.

[ORhunter]

Pultz:

Let me see if I understand you correctly. A person without tenure has not earned the right to an opinion or to express it? A person without tenure hasn't gained enough knowledge to form a valid opinion? Is that how it's supposed to work here?

Sort of seems to me, any time someone disagrees with someone else, you are not permitted to voice that disagreement. Do we all have to be a bunch of clones to get along here? Since when is an opposing view improper?

None of use are on this earth with the expressed duty to make everyone else happy and feel good.

[Big Unit]

Sounds like the last eight years here in the free U.S. To disagree is to be unpatriotic. Hmmm. No thanks.

Bob, you voiced your opinion, others voiced theirs.

BU

[Bob-Burr]

Originally Posted by Mello-Yello

I think the idea of someone asking what people think is to get everyone's opinion? Seems sorta senseless to only have those that agree........agree.

I agree but where do you see him asking for opinions? He made a sugestion.
I propose a new I fish forum of:

"Guns and Ammo"

It seems like the forum of hunting gets intermixed with this kind of stuff and there can be a benifit of keeping them seperate.

Ahh but that is the joy of ifish we can share our opinions. And well seeing you have not been here long I would suggest you give it a few years before telling others how and what they should do. ohh and browny is spelled Brownie rp 03-07-2008 02:09 AM

I heard you the first time Ryan, I guess we all make spelling mistatkes as well as double post mistakes. I am not at all surprised you of all people knew how to spell "brownie" points.
I guess the spelling of browny/ie depends on if you are refering to a delicous cake like treat of a place of darkness one likes to insert his nose to make points.

[QH's Paw]

I think it's started....tick tock tick tock......shouldn't be long now.

[JustCallMeDave]

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