spot hogg questions(w/hog wrap)

I now have two bows and on my trykon have trophy ridge sights with the vertical pins and on my new vetrix i want to go with horizonal pins. is there any advantages to going with micro size spot hogg over the original? My 2nd question is should i get the 7 pin or the 5 pin? I consider myself a good shot and can shoot at 70 yards and hit the kill zone ony my block with no problems. I will not shoot 70 yards at an animal at this point of time but i believe in a couple years i could have enough confadence to do so, we will see when that time comes. 3rd question, on the 7 pin does anyone ever get the pins confused? 4th question do you have any problems seeing all 7 pins in your peep sight?

Any info from spot hogg owners would be a great help to me.
Thanks
Mike

[PullShootExplode]

I recently upgraded my hogg-it with the wrap and the pins are awesome. I was going to go with the .10 pins but after looking at the .19 and .10 side by side my eyes liked the .19 pins. as far as 5 vs 7 pin if you just adjust your pins for 30-70 yards you will be fine with a 5 pin. Just some food for thought. You cant go wrong with either choice of sight. good luck and pick a spot.

[micah]

Micro pins cover less of the target and I found are a little easier on the eyes if your pins are really bright. As far as a 5 or 7 pin sight i'd go with a 7. The reason is because you can practice your longer shots all spring and summer long. Shortly before the season take out 2 pins and put them in hunting pack for back up pins, anything can happen and it would suck to bust a pin out and not have an extra. If you want to keep all 7 in take white out and mark the metal part of you pin on your 40, 60 and 80 yard pins. If you cant see all your pins through your peep I'd suggest getting a larger peep. One to where it lines up with your sight ring at full draw.

Mich,
thanks for the info, but to clear the micro part up i was refering to the size of the circle around the pins i noticed that there is two sizes. im guessing here but one looks to be about 2 1/2 inchs and the other is 1 3/4 or 2 inchis in diamiter

[Mello-Yello]

1. I like the smaller diameter Spott-Hogg, maybe just because it's what I started out with. I think it protects the pins a little better. I also run the sun-shade to further protect my pins and prevent them from glowing too much if the sun is on them.

2. 5 or 7 pins is pretty much a personal preference. I've always used 5 pin sights, mainly because back in the day bows were so slow there wasn't room for 7 pins. The biggest reason I like 5 pins answers question 3.

3. In the heat of battle it's easy to get pins confused when using only 5 pins. It would drive me crazy trying to keep track of 7. Again though, personal preference.

4. The folks at spott-hogg designed their sights in a manner that wasn't widely known at the time. The intent is to center the entire sight-guard inside the peep rather than just the sight pin. This keeps your form consistent regardless of which pin your using, particularly your peep location in relation to your anchor point. It took a little getting used to but I can't imagine doing it the old way now and it significantly improved my shooting. So, using this intended method, you'd always be able to see all 7 pins. The trick here is to get your peep sized right so your sight-guard is centered in your peep (spott-hogg's have a white circle in the face to facilitate this). I like mine pretty tight, with not much gap between the peep and the sight. You'll want to have a little bit of a gap though because in low-light your peep will tend to close up on you. For years I just used small drill bits to increase my peep size until I had it right. I now use a hooded peep from Specialty Archery. The kit comes with a peep housing and various sized apertures that screw into the housing.



M-Y

[AyeFish]

Not to hijack, but...is it just me, or do y'all notice that some sights, even for $150.00, just don't have a straight row of pins? One or two pins might be slightly to the left or right, and when you're out on your third, fourth or fifth pin, this can move your shot several inches.

Half the battle for me picking a sight is not brand, but one within my chosen brand that has a dead-straight row of pins. I've noticed Cobra is more straight than not (and mid-price), and some of the spot hogs are uneven.

Check out several sights side by side when you're shopping, you'll see it. I returned a sight at Bowtech (no questions asked) for this reason, and noticed better shooting afterwards.

If you hold on one pin, and then hold on the "uneven" pin, at fifty yards, you'll realize you're swerving six inches on some of these defunct sights.

Anyone else?

[fair hooker]

I got a spott hogg right on sight with 5- 0.19 pins, wrap, and the 2 3/8 inch pin guard. I'm happy with it. I think as was suggested I should drill my peep out a bit so I can see the entire sight, and it would be a good idea to have an extra pin or two.

The bright pins with the wrap let me shoot as late as is legal and work fine in full light. Adjustments are also easy and solid when set.

With 5 pins, I can cover all the shots from 0 to 70 yards. For hunting, I think 7 pins would be hard to sort out in the excitement of the moment.

[beardbuster]

Originally Posted by lonedrake

Mich,
thanks for the info, but to clear the micro part up i was refering to the size of the circle around the pins i noticed that there is two sizes. im guessing here but one looks to be about 2 1/2 inchs and the other is 1 3/4 or 2 inchis in diamiter

You cannot get the 7-pin in the small guard. The small guard accomodates the 5 and 3 pin models. I have both the 5 and 7 pin models in the Hoggit Hunter and I shoot the 5 pin small guard on my 3D bow right now with the Hoggit. I did have the 7 pin on there and had actually done as suggested and used white paint to color every other pin, so I could easily pick the pin without counting. I switched to the 5 pin just so I could stay in the bowhunter class on the 3D bow, but I hunted with the 7 pin last year.

You cannot remove the pins and place them in your pack when using the hogg wrap. The fiber is wrapped in the casing and then into the pin itself. The bonus, you will not break these sights or the pins. They are tough!

Pick a sight and a pin count that suits YOU. Everyone has an opinion about what is correct and ethical, but it is your decision. The 7 pin is a good sight, if you practice at the distances it can be a deadly sight. It can also be misleading to many since a lot can happen between your bow and 80 yards to the target.

I have been shooting Spot Hogg for almost 5 years and will not shoot another sight on the market. If you attend the archery get together I will show you my set-up and you can judge for yourself.

[beardbuster]

Originally Posted by AyeFish

Half the battle for me picking a sight is not brand, but one within my chosen brand that has a dead-straight row of pins. I've noticed Cobra is more straight than not (and mid-price), and some of the spot hogs are uneven.

Sights are assembled, not sighted in when you buy them. Depending on the speed of your bow will effect how your sights will line up too. If you bow is slower than your pins will not be perfectly centered as they need to spread out to accommodate arrow drop. As they spread out, they will pull away from the center. So its hard to pick up a NEW sight and judge how it will shoot on your bow. With the correct arrow set up, you should minimal pin gap and all your pins should be centered along the wire.

If you shoot with a level that is adjusted for your bow, you will eliminate the angle or torquing of your shots as well. Half an inch off at 20 yards could mean 8 inches at 50 or 60.

[AyeFish]

Originally Posted by beardbuster

you should minimal pin gap and all your pins should be centered along the wire.
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Centered along the wire is what I'm talking about. We know they will be higher or lower depending on which pin is used for what yardage. But a visually apparent left or right (horizontal) difference of one single pin in the entire row is a very common occurance and not adjustable on most sights. Just something to look for when you pick your specific sight.

[fair hooker]

On my spot hogg there is a simple allen wrench screw to move iindividual pins in or out. You can make them all line up vertically along the wire.

[AyeFish]

Originally Posted by fair hooker

On my spot hogg there is a simple allen wrench screw to move iindividual pins in or out. You can make them all line up vertically along the wire.

And that is the adjustability you want. Sweet deal.

[micah]

I haven't used a spot hogg with the wrap, but I imagine they would be tough to take apart. I've never actually busted out a pin, but I have broke the fiber optics on sights including a Spot Hogg, thats why i carry a couple extra pins in my pack. Anything can happen.

[beardbuster]

I bent every pin on a Hoyt Micro adjust sight one year as I was chasing a bull through the brush. The next year I switched to Spot Hogg - no complaints. Fiber optics may break, but the pins and sight construction is very tough machined aluminum.

[micah]

I agree, Spot Hogg pins are tough as nails.

[nakoa]

look into a 5 pin flash point i love mine

[Rustyoar]

BB you shooting the Old Glory still?

[shane&drake]

I bought a seven pin flash point, and a bigger peep this morning and shot it for a couple hours, I love it so far. I think its brighter than the spot hawg and it darkens in bright light to keep it from getting too bright. The guy did say the pins weren't as durable and they are a pain to change but I'll have to put it to the test before I verify that.

[beardbuster]

Nope. I shot the Diamond Liberty after the old Glory, then the Guardian and now the 101st and a black Guardian for 3D. All these bows are excellent and always sighted in with a Spot Hogg Hoggit Hunter.

My all time favorite is the Guradian. The Old Glory was a great bow; put quite a few animals down with that one in one year. Turkeys, wild boar, deer and elk.