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Old 02-21-2008, 03:18 PM   #1
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I might be looking to unload a couple rifles or shotguns from the safe. Does anyone know the legalities of private party sales in Washington state?

I'd rather not have something bite me in the butt a few years down the road.

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:31 PM   #2
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I might be looking to unload a couple rifles or shotguns from the safe. Does anyone know the legalities of private party sales in Washington state?

I'd rather not have something bite me in the butt a few years down the road.

There is no FFL required for sale of firearms between private parties in WA. unless the weapon is shipped then it has to be shipped to a FFL. Personally if you are selling to someone you do not know I would have a signed bill of sale with a copy of the individuals DL# or CWP# to keep in the safe just in case you get a visit from LEO's down the road if the weapon is used in the commission of a crime.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:34 PM   #3
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:03 PM   #4
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so watcha sellin? tax refunds are coming soon!
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:23 PM   #5
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so watcha sellin? tax refunds are coming soon!
Benelli Nova and Winchester .300WSM for sure.
I'm considering moving a Ruger Blackhawk .41mag and Beretta mini-Cougar .45ACP as well.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:39 PM   #6
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Here is a link to the voluntary form from the DOL for the private sale of a firearm in Washington.

http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652004.pdf

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Old 02-21-2008, 09:14 PM   #7
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There is no FFL required for sale of firearms between private parties in WA. unless the weapon is shipped then it has to be shipped to a FFL. ...
That's not correct- you can ship within the state of your residence even if transferring ownership. However, the mail or common carrier clerk you'll be dealing with will likely not know the law either and will insist that it goes to an FFL holder.

It's always a good idea to check out what the ATF says (and check with your own state) instead of taking advice from the internet.

Here's a quote from the ATF FAQ page:


(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

There's some interesting stuff in there. You can ship a rifle to your buddy in another state without involving an FFL holder if you are just loaning the rifle. You can ship a firearm to yourself in care of a person in another state without using an FFL holder (an example is shipping the rifle you will use on a guided hunt to yourself in care of the hunting guide).

The problem is that most clerks at shipping locations don't know the law and will cause all manner of headaches. In real life it's often easier to use an FFL holder.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b

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Old 02-23-2008, 05:05 AM   #8
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I stand corrected on the issue of interstate shipment of a firearms. That being said if it were (ME) I would only ship through a FFL to someone I do not know and could not meet with face to face.
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Benelli Nova??? is it the super nova??? and if so

HOW MUCH ??????
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:57 AM   #10
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I stand corrected on the issue of interstate shipment of a firearms. That being said if it were (ME) I would only ship through a FFL to someone I do not know and could not meet with face to face.
I was just posting that up for informational purposes, not to call you out. Sometimes what's "legal" isn't necessarily a good thing to do. Agreed 100% on using FFL's.

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Old 02-24-2008, 10:24 AM   #11
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what does it take for a trade with one in Wash (rifle) and one in Oregon (pistol)???
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