Coastal " sincerity and appreciation" !!!!

Ty · 02-13-2004, 01:28 AM

OK, here are some things to ponder before repling to replies to a post:

So, I by no means think that I am a good steelhead fishermand or master of any river in Oregon.

I love taking pictures and catching fish. I am a begginner steelhead fisherman that has been away from them for then ten years and in "Total Awe" of how good the fishing has been.

I by no means am fishing anywhere that is a secret. However, there are some that want to know and many more that already know. Really, does it matter? No, and the river I fish in it's hay day was much more famous and crowded than now, no matter what anyone says.

Seems that some of the really good fisherman are anoyyed by my posts. For this I am very sorry, there are they guys that I have the greatest respect and admiration for.

I like to take pictures, especially of a creature so magnificent as steelhead. I also love to post them on Ifish. I am not bragging and have found a "niche" so to speak in which to share my pictures and reports.

I feel that there are alot of fisherman that enjoy the posts and tech tips. Sorry to the ones that I have affend or think that I am tryin to brad, just in amazement of my own meager success of averaging 3 fish per trip (mostly half day trips).

My fishing trips are about getting away from classes like Calculus and Genetics so I can finish up my degree in Biology w/ sp option in Fisheries.

The goal is not always to catch fish, but to improve my fishing techniques, fish new water, and most of all have fun. This certainly lowers my catch ratio, but that is what I like.
Alot of times I fish "marginal" water and "marginal" techniques just for the shear challenge. I only hit the total zoo area's when I need more confidence or the water is high. I am fishing water more and more that is less fished. I really enjoy days like today when there is not another fisherman in sight and I am catching them where I have seen no one all winter, that is true gratification. It would surely be enough for me to fall asleep not ever posting a thread and sharing my pictures.

I have found alot of Ifisher's that seem to think I am coming off as some know it all or making up this or that on a partiacular topic about both fishing and fisheries biology.
I assure u that I could dig up literature about both..... and prove that I am correct most things. So, hopefully I receive no more threats from Ifishes to beat me up..... But, for those that want to....... and think they are tough enough... all I can say is that I fight dirty and hope u can swim... cause that is too bad that they have nothing better to do then think about kickin some dude's a.. on Ifish or finding him on the river someday.

FYI:
Kenai Pennisula streams i.e. Ninilchik, Deep Creek, and Anchor river especially where severly impacted by sport over harvest(ADFG).http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/state...SCkenaipen.pdf

Here is ADFG summary on why they justify keeping a steelhead over 36" in SE:
http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/state...pdfs/trout.pdf

This way 92% of the steelhead in South East are unhavestable... hmmm let me think about why that is......

Steelhead multiple return rates can be as high as 30% under certain conditions and river, the average is thougt to be around 15% and can very greatly year to year and river to river.'

When someone posts things like this, relize that there is always a study or something that may negate this. Science is always changing and shifting like the channal of a river.

Info I share by far is not from just one source and ussually if combined with my own experience in the field and more imprtantly by professionals that I have worked with and asked them one annoying fisheries question after another, untill even they get sick of talking about fisheries, but noooo not me, can't get enough of that stuff..

So in lue of the questions of my credibility, I will site some the Proffetionals in the Field that I have probed over the years that are much better source than one single research paper:

ODFW Fisheries Profesionals, past and current:
Bob Buckman, Randy Reeve, Dennis Wise, Thomas Riemrick, Gary Susac, Ron Williams, Steve Mamoyak, Ken Flizaar, Eric Shindler, Brian Riggers, Steve Jacobs, Steve King, Patty Farthing gosh I know more but can't remeber them all..

Alaska USFWS Fisheries:
Ken Harper, Gary Sonoval, Doug Molanoix, Doug Palmer, Ken Gates, David Cannon, Rich Gannon, Rich Canon, Randy Brown.........

Montana State Fisheies:
Ilene Carter, Thomas McMannon, Bob White....

And at this point my mind is bling bling fizzeled you dizzled cause I can't remeber any more..... but there are many more all which have involved conversations about fisheries that inspre intricate and cridical thinking .

I wont even start with all the books articles and literature that I consume, let alone bore u with the kewl and exciting thing that the USFWS field office that I work at has cooking.....

So that is just a little more about me, so those that misunserastand me may understand where I am coming from and give me a break when I come accross ignorant and unatriclulated be cause I am so discused with a few and i mean few Ifish members about flamming and inflamitory remarks, personal attacks, and i.e. threats. Lots of times I post at school with computere where the keyboarsds are screwed up and I am in a rush and don't take the time to edit or I am tired from fishing, studing, or just plain worn out from the good ol' past time of chasing some college woman.

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spinner53 · 02-13-2004, 03:58 AM

Ty Brau, Here's hoping I'm not on your Sh*% list :smile: Though I may be on KHH's ( and rightfully so I should add )
That being said, I enjoy your post as they aren't braggin', but thankfully ( I need all the help I can get ) more instructive.
All your reports give details as to the technique used and most of the time have pictures. I have made up some of the "Kinky" slinkies, have used them for a few hours, and have now installed the tubing type sinkers on my jig/bobber rig.
Keep on posting, not all of us can fish as much as yourself, but your shared trips are great to hear about. I can only guess you're fishing the Siletttz and or Alsea ?

Peace.

SlappinH20 · 02-13-2004, 04:19 AM

Hey Ty
I think that if you can find something you really like and make it your passion and then path in life, then hooray for you, you are very lucky!

What other people think is just that, other people, not you.
So, keep following your heart and you will be doing the right thing!
You, Dude, are doing something that most people can`t, or won`t do. That may make some of them uncomfortable. That is their problem! [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

Thank you for posting your pics! I get all hyped-up and ready to go when I see all that chrome, and I am learning ways to rig up that never would have occurred to me!

ZaQ · 02-13-2004, 04:41 AM

Someone I respect once told me, when they stop hating you, than start worrying about it.

Keep posting pics and slaying fish!

Quasimodo the fish killer · 02-13-2004, 05:42 AM

hey look at the bright side if they are talking about you good or bad at least they know your alive

I always figure if someone is talking about you then you must be doing something right.

Quasi.

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Fshklr · 02-13-2004, 05:48 AM

Ty, (Wyatt Erp)

Keep posting [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]
Too bad about the threats [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img] If Johnny Ringo is making threats and you want a Huckleberry to fish with I'm 6' 3" - 240

Post on!!! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]
Also turn off your email contact and enable p.m.'s..I would think hate mail through p.m.'s could be a discharge from ifish??
Better yet...Copy and paste their offensive email and show all here what the true colors of these jerks are!!

fishnpray · 02-13-2004, 05:48 AM

Ty-

I get a kick out of your posts, pic-filled or otherwise, and i'm glad that you have the pair to get on here and let everyone know where you're at in such a gentlemanly fashion. I was greatful the other day to see that you'd reasponded to my inquiry about technique, and have seen nothing but helpfulness(word?) coming from your membership. keep it up!

-Luis

RichH · 02-13-2004, 05:51 AM

I would add that if you are getting email threats you should forward them to the moderating crew and those folks need to have their priveleges here revoked.

As for your posts, party on dude.

02-13-2004, 05:58 AM

No call for this kind of behavior.

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I would add that if you are getting email threats you should forward them to the moderating crew and those folks need to have their priveleges here revoked.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Keep the pictures coming.

tag-a-long · 02-13-2004, 06:06 AM

Keep them coming TY. I had a hot streak last year on the Santiam. It seemed like there were a few who were tired of my pics every day. I moved here six years ago from the midwest. I had NEVER caught a salmon or steelhead for that matter. I joined IFISH, and got some tips, and had a buddy get me into a spot taht prodced well for us. I posted a few pics and told about where we were catching them, and the next day, the hole was stacked. I am not necessarily into keeping it zipper lipped, but if you want to have a nice spot to fish, there are times you have to. That is why I don't post too many stories or pics anymore. I enjoy hearing about people catching fish. Its a great day when you can spend it on the river. I love the pics. If everyone wants to keep their special spot, let them. If you want to keep posting pics and stories, go ahead. I personally like reading it.

Fish on!!!!!

Tag

jokester · 02-13-2004, 06:42 AM

Keep em coming!! Gotta love them fish pics!!

-jokester

rock bottom · 02-13-2004, 07:01 AM

Your stories and pics get me through the loooong work week until I get my shot on the weekends. Dont stop now.
By the looks of it I would consider you a good steelhead fisherman, if you dont then you should buy a lottery ticket.

tailchaser · 02-13-2004, 07:27 AM

Honestly, it's no secret which rivers hold steelhead in the NW. I could care less if you mention which one of the hundred you were on because in any given day one spot could be hot and dead in a matter of 24 hours when fish are passing through. The mad ones are the jealous ones that they can't do the same. Keep 'em coming just for spite of the lowlifes that want to bash someone being successful. If this was always the case 5cents and his crew of salmon catchers would be the most hated among Ifishers. :grin:

tc

Salmon Stryker · 02-13-2004, 07:28 AM

I like your posts and pics. Keep em coming.

FrogPond · 02-13-2004, 07:45 AM

"can't we all just get along?"

To all of those who want to dance with Ty about fisheries biology...good luck! He has lived fish since he was in high school. He was setting fish traps and collecting migration data when other kids his age were trying to balance on a skateboard. (Way back before skate parks were invented) He is a wealth of info, that he will share...most of the time, without asking :grin:

Good Luck, Dude! I think we need to find a new river! You have pillaged this one clean!

northriver1 · 02-13-2004, 07:51 AM

FrogPond - Based on your success you must have been asleep when the teacher was teaching.

Thumb Burner · 02-13-2004, 08:00 AM

Ty,
Keep them comming. I love your posts. I dont care where your fishing. I would never make it down in that area anyway. All of your sucessful trips just inspire me that someday maybe I can do the same. Ignore the threats, they are just jealous.
You shouldnt have to put up with threats, that is going way to far. Who ever you are you need to grow up. Its just fishing. The man is following his dream in life to work in a field that he really has a passion for. I wish I would have followed my dreams.
Ty, please dont stop posting tips or pictures. The people that enjoy them far outweigh the rest.

I know Jennie will read this and hope she gets in contact with you, this is absurb.

SS

DiveR · 02-13-2004, 08:02 AM

Ty
You're doin great
Most of us would rather see more teachers than preachers on the site (except grantspastor of course). Even if fishin is for some of us a religion !!!
Bernie

KingFisher85 · 02-13-2004, 08:09 AM

I second that of Fshklr
Copy and past those lovely PMs and post away :grin:

SteelieSlammer · 02-13-2004, 08:14 AM

Ty
I have never fished with you but I have read a lot of your posts and I have never once thought of it as bragging. Don't let it get to you. There will alway be those people that thrive by conflict and may never truely be happy. Keep doing what you are doing. I enjoy seeing the pics and only wish i could be on the river with ya rather than behind my desk.

SpinnerMan · 02-13-2004, 08:28 AM

Hey -- I'm BRAGGING -- I FISH WITH TY!!!

Ty is one all around great fishermen and nice guy. He is a wealth of information and gladly shares it. [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

I wish more fishermen were like him -- I wish I was a little more like him too!! :tongue:

Hey Ty lets go catch some more!!!

SM

GOT2FISH · 02-13-2004, 08:59 AM

TY I cant belive someone would get so upset and be so childish as to send you a post about kicking your backside. I think that should be forwarded and have them removed from the SITE> its just not right. I always enjoy your posts and pictures. Although I'm green with envy. Good Luck and Keep them coming Please

Cosmic Lazy Susan · 02-13-2004, 09:25 AM

Keep em coming Ty!

It's guys like you, Hog Hunter, Tackle Buster, Pearl and a bunch of others (sorry if I left you off) that make this board so good.

Sharing info, tips and reports. Telling us good usable fishing stuff. I appreciate it. If and when I become a competent fisherman I hope I'll have as useful info to share as all of you great contributors put out.

Thanks,
Dale

fishin62 · 02-13-2004, 09:31 AM

All i know is it is smart to think before you post! alot of you people think this website has no effect on the amount of people that show up at a hole the next day? well tagalong learned a hard lesson, i fished the same hole for years, about 20, and after that post he made late last spring ,i saw what happened after that, you can not tell me all thoses people just had a feeling thats where the fish were? well i have had to find different spots now and i guess it was a good thing because we explored and came up with a lot nicer hole! with no big crowds.

Fisherfield · 02-13-2004, 10:19 AM

I dig your posts Ty.....to the others...screw them! There is no room in my life for people who are negative...just ask my friend (birth name Dave) He's now known as Negative Dave...because he never has anything positive to say. When people get jelous, the worst comes out. I'm thinking there is a big of jelousy among some of your fellow ifishers. The carrott guys get crap all the time and they quit posting...?? We need your pictures and tips..that's what this site is all about...PERIOD!

Keep posting Ty, 99% of the people on here appreciate it...and the other 1%...who cares...they are surely the minority.

Enjoy your day!!

Jeff

Sublime · 02-13-2004, 10:36 AM

Hey Ty~

Keep ALLL those pictures and posts coming! It' keeps ME entertained while I'M in the computer lab at school!

I'm kinda in the same boat you are, yet just aren't getting out as much as yourself. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img] I know i've jokingly said, "shouldn't you be in class", knowing full well I'm the same way and would hit the river at any given moment. :grin: haha. Well, Hopefully I'll meet ya sometime and we'll fish. SOunds like we're fairly similar.

high_arc · 02-13-2004, 10:47 AM

I enjoy reading your posts and seeing your pics. One question for you though, why would you want to get out of Calculus? I just don't understand. :smile:

SKP · 02-13-2004, 12:13 PM

He's calculating his next cast. A wise man applies his knowlege.

Keep the good posts coming!

SKP

Dragfreedrift · 02-13-2004, 12:49 PM

Ty- People are just jealous of your success...it happens in every endeavor.

Once you start to put up the real numbers, many folks just cant stand it anymore and will start to talk about you and put you down.

Don't let it bother you man, instead you should be flattered.

Here's to all the great pics and advice!!!

Half Canuck

fishinpoor · 02-13-2004, 01:18 PM

TY,i know where your coming from,i've always been fairly sucessful at hunting/fishing,some feel that you must be doing something illeagal to always get your deer/elk/fish,and that makes them jealous,so they lash out,if they put as much time into learning whatever it is they enjoy doing then they too can become like those of us who have spent the time and energy to know all we can about our sport.those type of people are always going to find a reason to badmouth someone they may or may not even know.keep up the post and pics.i know i enjoy them,for those that don't,they are in no way obligated to read anything you have to say,if they hate you that much why do they even bother following your posts

Full Freezer · 02-13-2004, 03:58 PM

Ty,

I don't think I have ever seen any thing you have ever posted that wasn't helpful or encouraging!

In fact I went back thru the archives to review your posts & found nothing but awesome tips & fantastic pictures. If only I could fish like you. (I did find a possible perp but we won't mention names)

Please continue to educate us that are steelhead challanged. We need it. At least i can see great pictures of fish i can't catch!

Full Freezer

Grant Scheele · 02-13-2004, 04:45 PM

For the record. I enjoy your posts and pictures and hope that you don't stop. Sometimes I might not understand your math but that doens't mean that I don't like your style.

I have yet to see to many steelhead pictures.

You say that you are not bragging but what is the point of doing something well if you don't get to show it off sometimes. To me, that is what IFISH is all about. A large group to share our ups and downs with. Fortunately you are experiencing lots of ups right now.

Anyway, hope to see you on the river sometime. Grant

Gun Rod Bow · 02-13-2004, 05:00 PM

I'm not much of a steelhead bankie, but I have enjoyed your posts.

You do all the things right, good quality pics that do not tip the location, frank discussion and tips on your methods, location doesn't matter, and you don't mention it.

Discussions of conservation and harvest are open discourse. Put on a thick skin and go for it.

Keep on keepin on.

5-Cents · 02-13-2004, 05:21 PM

Ty join the club man!

Let me fill you in on something about these boards, you cant please all the people all the time. I am sure the vast majority of people, including myself, love to see the pics and reports you post... I read every one! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

Dont worry about what the negative people say about you they have other issues and just take it out on you. They are not happy with themselves so they have to lash out at someone and doing so over the computer makes them feel tough. Its funny when you meet them in person and they are just little lumps on a log

If you post a lot of pictures you will get a lot of [img]graemlins/icon_argue.gif[/img] but just let it run off of you like water off a ducks back. Dont fall into the trap of shooting back at people and just keep being yourself

Lets hook up for some springer action in a few weeks and really give them soemthing to talk about [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

Fishin Magician · 02-13-2004, 06:54 PM

It's always lonely at the top........... :smile:

Mrdorkfish · 02-13-2004, 07:17 PM

Ty, Doing what you do is exactly what this site is about, I myself strongly disapprove of the careless display of protected fish, Keep showing us the fish...and how you catch them...but i kinda feel slighted by the fact that i have not been threatened bodily harm by someone that doesn't have the fishing ability/knowledge i have (maybe cuz i'm no lump on a log) :grin:

I want to see some results on the big river from you :tongue: Ain't no bobbers on the big river

MrDorkfish [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Some guy named Louis

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straightweave · 02-13-2004, 07:33 PM

Ty...it's because of your pictures that I don't schedule anything before 10 am

. Keep up the good work.