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Heading East Take Cover
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01-10-2008, 11:41 AM
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01-10-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
More funel clouds reported damage
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01-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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Wow!
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01-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
1225 PM PST THU JAN 10 2008
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PORTLAND HAS ISSUED A
* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN CLARK COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON...
SOUTHWESTERN SKAMANIA COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON...
* UNTIL 100 PM PST.
* AT 1220 PM PST...THE PUBLIC REPORTED A TORNADO NEAR HAZEL DELL...OR
ABOUT NEAR VANCOUVER DOWNTOWN...MOVING EAST AT 30 MPH.
* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
SIFTON...ORCHARDS...BRUSH PRAIRIE AND EVERGREEN AROUND 1230 PM
PST...
CAMP BONNEVILLE...SALMON FALLS...LACAMAS LAKE AND ALPINE AROUND
1240 PM PST...
ELKHORN MOUNTAIN AROUND 1245 PM PST...
LARCH MOUNTAIN AROUND 1250 PM PST...
THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.
IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.
TIME...MOT...LOC 2025Z 266DEG 29KT 4568 12258
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More funel clouds reported damage
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01-10-2008, 11:51 AM
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I think it peaked, not going East, but NNE now. small stuff can still cause damage get your pet in.
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01-10-2008, 11:53 AM
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Battleground going East at 30mph still active
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01-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
small tornado confirmed up close by official 25-30ft in width
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01-10-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
I just heard no lights on hwy 99 in Hazel Dell. Major traffic problems.
I am at the Airport and can not see that far North due to clouds. Our meteorologist are looking at forecasts and predictions.
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small tornado confirmed up close by official 25-30ft in width
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01-10-2008, 12:03 PM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
Holy whirl wind!!!  Hope nobody gets hurt. They're cutting int kinda close with some still active and their warning was only effect until 1:00.
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01-10-2008, 12:05 PM
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Yes, let your school know not to let kids walk around to much damage and power lines.
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01-10-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: Tornado currently!!! in Vancouver Wa
Still a Severe Thunderstorm warning. Get grandma off the porch.
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01-10-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
Touch down in Hazel Dell. Girlfriend was home to let the dogs out and said many trees down, consturction debris from development scattered everywhere. She could not get into our neighborhood from the north. Got back out on I-5 and came in from the south. Luckily, it missed my neighborhood. Coworker said he heard that a few homes lost roofs!
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01-10-2008, 12:10 PM
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Lots of damage reported. Be careful.
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01-10-2008, 12:14 PM
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small but mighty, I hope no injuries. whew.
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01-10-2008, 12:17 PM
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Do we know addresses of where this touched down? I heard fruit valley road and went ENE. I live, what I believe is in the path. Anyone in the I-5 and 39th st exit have any input?
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01-10-2008, 12:18 PM
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78th
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01-10-2008, 12:22 PM
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78th and HWY 99 is what I here as the beginning of the destruction. Leaving a path of downed trees and power lines. Yes, several traffic accidents, bad traffic. Overturned propane truck near Fred Meyer.
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01-10-2008, 12:25 PM
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Ya, Girlfriend was at 78 and Fruit Valley and could not go south on FV. Lots of trees down, construction debris and emergency vehicles. I live at 4th Plain and FV and no damage there.
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01-10-2008, 12:26 PM
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Severe thunderstorm warning though continues for Scamania County. Should we post another thread, warning people?
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01-10-2008, 12:26 PM
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F1 but small. F0 would have not sounded so intense, cars were tossed.
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01-10-2008, 12:29 PM
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Must have been small-the radio said that it touched down at 78th and Fruit Valley, I was eating lunch at home (1500 block of 80th st) 4 blocks from the touch down and was looking at the storm coming at us. I did not see any funnell and I know what one looks like (Grew up in the Midwest). It looked more like a wall of water, hail, and wind. It did blow hard enough to blow the water into the vent hood exhaust on the roof which dripped about a tablespoon onto the stove. Everyones deck furniture etc. was still in place as far as I could see (In a tornado, your stuff usually is in the next county or atleast a couple blocks away) I guess thats why we wrote our name and number on our trash cans in Illinois! Anyway, On the way back to work, there was a tree down on Fruit Valley Rd. (looked like about a 12 inch diameter ( not a swath of trees like a tornado or st. helens) This could have been cut up in about 10 minutes with a good blade! There was a dozen taxpayer paid vehicles circling it, deciding what to do! I'm not sayin there wasn't one but I'm thinkin I should have, maybe I blinked. I did notice what a nightmare it is when people don't have red and green to drive by. We should give more training on that whole concept!!!!
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01-10-2008, 12:30 PM
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Thunderstorm warning has been cancelled
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01-10-2008, 12:33 PM
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It dropped a tree at grovers near hwy 99 and 78th street. Homes with roofs off at 72nd st
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01-10-2008, 12:33 PM
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
I put in down at Langdorfs this morning about 11:30. I was going to run up to Kelly point and fish. I was just putting along because the rain was pelting my face, when I got to the top of Caterpiller island a lighting bolt hit near one of the ships, I just spun around and headed back to the ramp and I hit the worst hail storm Iv'e seen in a long time. That was one of the scariest trips on the river Iv'e had. I was in Fishermans about 10:30 getting my new lic. and I heard the emergancy warning on the radio, I just thought it was a test I couldn't hear what they were saying.
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01-10-2008, 12:33 PM
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Three small cels of trouble are still in the area 12:30 Sherwood Downtown PDX and Troutdale.
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01-10-2008, 12:36 PM
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01-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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"There was a dozen taxpayer paid vehicles circling it, deciding what to do! I'm not sayin there wasn't one but I'm thinkin I should have, maybe I blinked. I did notice what a nightmare it is when people don't have red and green to drive by. We should give more training on that whole concept!!!!"
I feel confident that these were not x-marines
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01-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
Went by 2 blocks from me. Lotsa hail, continuous thunder and a roar for about 30 seconds. Very minor damage in Hazel Dell. F-0 tornado.
Nothing like the F-3 of 1972.
edit --- now they are saying F-1 to F-2.
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01-10-2008, 12:45 PM
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Here is a picture of the hail in the street in Hazel Dell. That is not snow!
http://forms.belointeractive.com/sha...L_100_1275.jpg
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01-10-2008, 12:52 PM
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Thats F0 hail if I have ever seen hail in all my yers
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01-10-2008, 12:52 PM
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HOLEY HAIL, batman!!!
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01-10-2008, 12:53 PM
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Holy shnikey's......That hail looks like it could have done some damage to some cars and etc....
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its no suprise, funnel cloud Gresham OR
watch out for pets and loved ones.
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01-10-2008, 01:13 PM
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Young girl is missing.  Goes by the name of Dorothy. They can't find her little dog, too.
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01-10-2008, 01:16 PM
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removed because a few folks were offended at my unfeeling remarks
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01-10-2008, 01:18 PM
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THE SKY IS FALLING.......THE SKY IS FALLING.......
Sighning off heading for the door jam
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01-10-2008, 01:22 PM
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I think I heard something Bernie, but can't remember? Tatu or something like that.
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01-10-2008, 01:23 PM
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Pay no attention to that man behind the blue curtain!!
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01-10-2008, 01:24 PM
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removed because some were offended by my unfeeling remarks
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01-10-2008, 01:25 PM
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No, that's not it. I do remember that it was the name of a rock band, oddly enough. Journey? No, too ironic. Maybe...hrm. Oh wait! The dog's name is Kansas!
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01-10-2008, 01:26 PM
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Duuuuust in the wiiiiiiiiind
All they are is dust in the wiiiiiiiiiind
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Dave, it's hail, not dust.
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01-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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No, that's not it. I do remember that it was the name of a rock band, oddly enough. Journey? No, too ironic. Maybe...hrm. Oh wait! The dog's name is Kansas!
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I think Dorothy and the group can be found at the 1/2 time on Hazel Dell Ave.
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01-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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removed because some felt it was unfeeling
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01-10-2008, 01:31 PM
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Toe Dough?
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01-10-2008, 01:32 PM
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I think Dorothy and the group can be found at the 1/2 time on Hazel Dell Ave.
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I just saw Purpleavet punch out early. He probably is headed for the !/2 time looking for Dorothy. I'll ask him to report to us in the morning!
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01-10-2008, 01:34 PM
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Toe Dough?
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01-10-2008, 01:35 PM
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you get the picture by now I am sure. Must have been unfeeling.
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They just put her photo up on the tele. I need a pair of those slippers!
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
Wife works near Izzy's on 78th street, saw it touch down just east of her (quite a ways from 78th street and fruit valley). Her building is damaged, cracked walls, roof damaged--water streaming in. Flying metal pieces of building hit her car causing damage. This event is not what croation described, it is much more widespread, and significantly more damage.
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Wife works near Izzy's on 78th street, saw it touch down just east of her (quite a ways from 78th street and fruit valley). Her building is damaged, cracked walls, roof damaged--water streaming in. Flying metal pieces of building hit her car causing damage. This event is not what croation described, it is much more widespread, and significantly more damage.
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I here ya there, it just wasn't much activity if you weren't right in the path!
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01-10-2008, 02:59 PM
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Wow...  JCMD, C&E, etc...  It's nice that you guys can see the humor in a natural disaster affecting a large group of people in Clark County. I know... It isn't your house that got hit so you can make a joke of it. Very nice...
To those of you who sustained damage, I feel for you. My house was spared but not by a lot. There is some minor damage in my neighborhood but nothing like what is being broadcast on the news in Hazel Dell.
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01-10-2008, 03:17 PM
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Nothing like the one we had in '72....
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01-10-2008, 03:20 PM
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Only lightning, a little hail, and lots of rain at my house.
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01-10-2008, 03:53 PM
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Yeah that "young girl is missing" statment is hillarious after a serious natural disaster.
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Young girl is missing.  Goes by the name of Dorothy. They can't find her little dog, too.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelie Steve
Wow...  JCMD, C&E, etc...  It's nice that you guys can see the humor in a natural disaster affecting a large group of people in Clark County. I know... It isn't your house that got hit so you can make a joke of it. Very nice...
To those of you who sustained damage, I feel for you. My house was spared but not by a lot. There is some minor damage in my neighborhood but nothing like what is being broadcast on the news in Hazel Dell.
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Let's not get over sensitive about all this. It was in jest and nothing more than that so please don't make it more than that.
That said, perhaps it was tacky and irreverant and I appologize for my infraction. Not meant to be malicious or unfeeling. Anyone that sustained damage due to this has my sincere appologies IF I offended them. Someone out there has been terribly affected by this occurance and I know good people are there to help them.
Thanks for pointing this out Steve and Mitch. Hopefully you have never made a mistake like this in your past and are without conviction. Next time just handle in a PM and I would gladly remove an offending post. Nicely done boys.
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Guest
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
Posts: 7,681
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
Looks from here like the 16 well timed joke posts were meant to stop communication during an emergency to me.
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01-10-2008, 04:32 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 21,813
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Re: Tornado Warning Vancouver Wa
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennie@ifish
Dave, it's hail, not dust.
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Oh and you better lump Jennie in with us unfeeling folks to Mitch and Steve. Seems she made a little light of this too.
I'm done with this one, flame away oh you that are so righteous.
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