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01-08-2008, 10:18 AM
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Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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01-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Very Nice! and to steal form the boat show thread, how about an "Open Ocean" 22 -24; something some of us could reach...I'd give up the Arima...the Clackacraft...maybe the dog...the daughter's college...I can always live in a camper  .
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01-08-2008, 11:34 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Since you asked, Rod.....And I mean no disrespect at all, but it's not grabbing me. To me, the design doesn't make the connection with the name - it's got a closed, albeit dashed, line around "open ocean." And I don't understand the font. But like I said, it's just me.
Very nice vessel, btw. I wish I had time to get to the show to check it out. I'll still try, but it's not looking promising.
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01-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
We've got a 23' mono-hull that is self-bailing, built like a tank, has a hard top option, large fish tank, lots of fuel, and it runs about $68K. Wanted to have it at the show too but it didn't work out. :frown: If you need more info let me know!
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01-08-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Since you asked, Rod, I have to go with Chromaflage. To me it looks like an "under construction/police line-do not cross/, Wide load" style sign.
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01-08-2008, 11:54 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Originally Posted by corrirod
We've got a 23' mono-hull that is self-bailing, built like a tank, has a hard top option, large fish tank, lots of fuel, and it runs about $68K. Wanted to have it at the show too but it didn't work out. :frown: If you need more info let me know!
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I think it looks good.I think it should look great though. Maybe a cat hull flying off a breaking wave with a cartoon possesed(sp) tuna chasing it.Ok to much sorry.I think it just looks ok.I love the boat though.I can not wait to see the plans for the cudy cabin.My wife has Friday off might be a good time to convince her with a sea trial.HINT HINT
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01-08-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Is this similar to how the logo would be applied?
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01-08-2008, 12:16 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I like it. Industrial, utilitarian, purpose built. The outline looks like a tank tred...... "built like a tank".
I think it fits.
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01-08-2008, 12:23 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
So, which Caterpillar dealer should I go to for a list of options.
Cool graphic, but not my first choice for that boat. It does convey a heavy presence though.
-LOL
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01-08-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
We've got a 23' mono-hull that is self-bailing, built like a tank, has a hard top option, large fish tank, lots of fuel, and it runs about $68K.
I am very interested.....got any pictures?.....
Ill bet there are a few more than myself that would like to see that..
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01-08-2008, 12:50 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Hmm, the lettering looks like its already all scratched up and "ratty" looking. If that is the look you are after then you nailed it!
I wouldnt want that logo on my brand new shiny boat.
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01-08-2008, 02:21 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Rod,
I love the boat!!! But.... I think the logo falls short...no suggestions it just doesn't seem to do the boat jsutice. Just my .02. Fish ON!! Mike
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01-08-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I think This would be better suited for that tank
What say you all????
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01-08-2008, 03:09 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I actually kind of like it. I think a little tweaking might be in order but it's not bad. Maybe a white background "fading" to black as it gets to the bottom of the letters. I like the weathered look. Kind of looks like the lettering for deadliest catch.
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01-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Originally Posted by earlybird007
We've got a 23' mono-hull that is self-bailing, built like a tank, has a hard top option, large fish tank, lots of fuel, and it runs about $68K.
I am very interested.....got any pictures?.....
Ill bet there are a few more than myself that would like to see that..
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01-08-2008, 04:33 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I'm thinking it's just OK. Not perfect yet. It does give the feel of an industrial work platform, maybe a slower mithodical get it done kind of work boat and maybe not the Fast Smooth Open Ocean Fishing Machine you want it to project. A color change and maybe a little slant to the lettering may be just enough and keep the broken text pattern. All kinds of ideas, that's why the designers get the big bucks. It maybe more important than you think to get it just right. Just look at Beer and Wine bottles for example, You would like to think its the product inside that gets the attention but something has to get you to stop and take a tast first. Just half a 
Boat looks great though.
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01-08-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Originally Posted by corrirod
We've got a 23' mono-hull that is self-bailing, built like a tank, has a hard top option, large fish tank, lots of fuel, and it runs about $68K. Wanted to have it at the show too but it didn't work out. :frown: If you need more info let me know!
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Rod, I am all ears! let me in on the details 
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01-08-2008, 05:15 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Rod,
How about something that fits the boat better like a cat/tank (cat with tank treads) crushing waves?
Maybe ma deuce mounted on the bow?
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01-08-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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I think This would be better suited for that tank
What say you all????
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Thats worse.
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01-08-2008, 08:41 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Wow! Shows you what I know about good graphics!
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like we'll need to go back to the drawing board. :frown:
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01-08-2008, 08:48 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
How about this kind of Tank? Great album too.
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01-08-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
That's better. And the cannons shoot zukers and swimbaits.
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01-09-2008, 11:07 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
i think something with a parting rough sea would be cool....sort of a moses type thing. maybe show the rear profile of the boat going through the parted sea and the open ocean graphic across the back of the boat
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01-09-2008, 04:59 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Rod...there are some really good graphics designers out there, for not a lot of money. I have one that built me a new corporate logo, a new Team Albie Damned Logo and a couple fo little graphics for my camper.
I think the drawing board is a good place for the designer. I think a boat show, an open ocean, an empty river is better place for you.
Love the boat. It was really nice to see it in person and meet Andy. It's a heckuva machine, I was impressed on several levels. With $500 rod holders adorning the gunwales, it deserves a few C notes of design services. GREAT LOOKING RIDE, Can't wait to see it in the water, getting passed by that oh so beautiful Everglade 29 Pilot.
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01-09-2008, 05:08 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Originally Posted by HugeDuckFan
Rod...there are some really good graphics designers out there, for not a lot of money. I have one that built me a new corporate logo, a new Team Albie Damned Logo and a couple fo little graphics for my camper.
I think the drawing board is a good place for the designer. I think a boat show, an open ocean, an empty river is better place for you.
Love the boat. It was really nice to see it in person and meet Andy. It's a heckuva machine, I was impressed on several levels. With $500 rod holders adorning the gunwales, it deserves a few C notes of design services. GREAT LOOKING RIDE, Can't wait to see it in the water, getting passed by that oh so beautiful Everglade 29 Pilot.
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Its not that I HATE those designs. They just look...well...uhhh....like they were whipped out in 10 minutes using photoshop.
That boat deserves better. Hire a professional to design a logo that is good enough to earn the privilege of being displayed on such a well crafted fishing machine.
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01-10-2008, 08:14 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Do we know that Rod designed that himself or are we assuming? I'd be surprised if he didn't use GBS's services.
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01-10-2008, 08:37 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I think it'd look a lot better if you dropped the text "Open Ocean" and replaced it with:
Brian's Boat!
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01-10-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Wow, tough crowd, I'm sure not gonna post my picture on here  . I gotta say that I like the first draft because it is a little different than most other graphics and does bring the "caterpillar" idea into play. I really like "Salty Walty's" ELP tank, added as a circle, maybe a ferociously angry Tuna in place of the armadillo....
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01-10-2008, 11:41 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Is a tough crowd but the man did ask for responces. I gotta say it just does not work for me either. It's real easy to logo a pretty boat like a carver or glacier bay or seasport. Tough to logo a battle wagon like that baby.
Hank, Dude I wanted to break out the tea and crumpits when I saw your design. Table for two please..............
How about a growling panther on the bow with the sponsons crashing the water. Paws of the Panther spread out on each sponson. Kinda along the idea that waltysalty came up with on the ELP cover.
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01-10-2008, 12:30 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Originally Posted by CATCH AND EAT
Is a tough crowd but the man did ask for responces. I gotta say it just does not work for me either. It's real easy to logo a pretty boat like a carver or glacier bay or seasport. Tough to logo a battle wagon like that baby.
Hank, Dude I wanted to break out the tea and crumpits when I saw your design. Table for two please..............
How about a growling panther on the bow with the sponsons crashing the water. Paws of the Panther spread out on each sponson. Kinda along the idea that waltysalty came up with on the ELP cover.
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You are the only one that saw it (or at least commented on it)
I am working on some real ideas but will keep them hush hush til I show 'em to Bob & Rod
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01-10-2008, 12:53 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Fyshndad,
I saw your handy work but thought you were serious about liking it so I was being nice and didn't say anything. LOL. That was horrible, good work.
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01-10-2008, 12:57 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Fyshndad,
I saw your handy work but thought you were serious about liking it so I was being nice and didn't say anything. LOL. That was horrible, good work. 
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Yeah that sticker might look good on a real fancy party boat but it was intended as a joke
I am still shaking my head over the fact that some thought I was serious
Guess I better polish up my sense of humor
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01-10-2008, 07:09 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I did ask for responses, both good and bad. I appreciate them all.
I don't claim to be an expert at anything, and graphic design especially. This design was created by a family friend who IS in the business. Took the person more than 10 minutes to design too but perhaps he's slower than most. Again, I'm no expert.
We're open to suggestions so if anyone has something better please send it my way.
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01-11-2008, 06:27 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
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Bernie
It is good to see you caught my attempt at humor
You are the only one that saw it (or at least commented on it)
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Subtle yet......refined.
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01-11-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I checked out the boat at the show last night. I was speechless. Looks bullet proof to me.
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01-11-2008, 08:07 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I wouldnt dream of posting some lame graphics and suggesting they were better than the original proposed.  Anything artistic is subject to opinion, and most of the "professional" graphic work I see looks like Poo to me  Rod put on what ever you want, anybody looking at the graphics and not the boat is missing the beauty.
I do have a question on this boat with the bead blast finish.
I dont see it on other boats. It seems like it would make fabrication much easier since any little scratches in the mill finish during construction could be bead blasted away after the boat is built. I liked the look of the bead blast finish quite a bit, but I suspect it creates more surface area with all the little dents in the aluminum. Would this not create more area for the aluminum to oxidize  What was the reason for the bead blast finish on certain areas of the boat?
Would these areas be available to sharkhyde? How does the bead blast finish paint? Does it create a better surface for paint to adhere to, sort of like sanding before painting?
How does the bead blast look after time? Do all the peaks on the finish oxidize away leaving it as a smoother finish later?
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
Good questions Roy and I'll have to defer to Andy to answer them.
One thing I can answer is that it was not done to cover up any scratches or blemishes. Andy grinds and sands everything. In this instance we asked him to give us THE most maintenance-free boat possible and this is what he came up with.
This is not his first bead-blasted product. He has done this to a lot of commercial boats.
As for the oxidizing, metallurgy, clean-up, etc., I'll have to defer those questions to Andy and I'll post them back as soon as I can. We asked Andy if we should use a Nyallic coating on the pilot house or gunnels and he said he wouldn't recommend it because it really won't make any difference, other than it will darken the finish.
Gotta run to the show. Long day today and one more tomorrow but I'll try to get the answers Monday or Tuesday!
Thanks again for the feedback.
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01-12-2008, 08:57 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
I suspect that it would be part of the painting process. In order for the zinc cromate (the primer) to adhere properly, the surface must be roughed up. Bead blasting is faster and more uniform than grinding.
Of course that boat would look best if it were RED!
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01-12-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
since U are not likely to sell thousands of these..and the BOAT is much more important than the brand or even the graphic..sorry...those in the know are going to know about Andy..I would suggest you give a credit at GBS or some other nautical/fish minded graphic artist business for an integrated custom name /logo.......graphic.....
my $.02, adjusted for inflation..and worth what U paid for it...
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02-14-2008, 06:59 AM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Maxweld "Open Ocean" Graphics
What did you come up with Rod?
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