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09-13-2001, 04:00 PM
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Union Members on Ifish
This is something that was put out today by my union IAMAW in response to the terrorist attacks on America on Tuesday. If you don't like unions that's okay but please refrain from bashing this thread.
VENGEANCE
Tuesday morning, UNION members went to work cleaning planes,checking reservations,loading bags and making passengers comfortable. At Logan,Newark and Dulles airports,their pre-dawn routines went on as usual.
The planes they prepared for flight had been built by UNION members. Their engines had been checked and re-checked by UNION mechanics. Their fuel tanks had been topped off by UNION fuelers.
UNION members were aboard at least one of the flights. And UNION members were working in the Pentagon.
So. This is personal
It was OUR planes that were used as weapons of mass destruction. It was OUR members who were among the murdered!
And we will have OUR venegeance!
The terrorists and the nations who shield them miscalculated badly. They struck at the symbols of America's economic and military power: The World Trade Towers and the Pentagon.
They did not touch the reality of that might:the working men and women across the USA whose souls were seared by this act of war.
Today UNION members return to work. They
will be prepping the planes that can just as easily carry troops to the farthest reaches of the earth! They will be building the F-15,F16,F-18's and F-22's that WILL impose a new reality on those who have dared attack us.
For it is not simply justice we seek. It is vengeance, pure and simple!
International Association Of Machinist and Aerospace Workers Local 1432
GOD BLESS THE USA
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09-13-2001, 05:05 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Mrdorkfish...AFSCME Local 328/Shop Steward [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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09-13-2001, 05:31 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IAFF Local 43
Former Teamster,Local 182 I think [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Former Carpenters union member also
[ 09-13-2001: Message edited by: firedog ]
[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: firedog ]
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09-13-2001, 06:39 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IBEW Local 125-Outside Lineworker
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09-13-2001, 08:02 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
[img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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09-13-2001, 08:20 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
operating engineers local 612
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09-13-2001, 08:23 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
smwa local 66
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09-13-2001, 08:27 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
MPEA- Proudly serving our community
To our brother and sister officers in New York...
Some of you have now departed or gone missing but...
None of you will ever be forgotten.
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09-13-2001, 08:55 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
AWPPW local 13
proud to be American and a Union Brother.
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09-13-2001, 09:16 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
International brotherhood of Teamsters local 81
My Prayers for all
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09-13-2001, 09:20 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Couldn't resist could you Roy? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
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09-13-2001, 09:21 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Pace Local 1188, I helped organize it 10 years ago.
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09-13-2001, 09:28 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
ALPA
The American people have been "Sold down the river" by the Major Airline Corporations. Corporate Giants have placed convenience and profits (If it's convenient to fly, they make more money!) above Safety! These Giants have the political clout to control the F.A.A.! The blood of innocent Americans is on the hands of both the F.A.A. and the powerful airline executives! [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]
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09-13-2001, 09:37 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
United Brotherhood of Carpenters local # 247 16 years.
WE WILL REBUILD
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09-13-2001, 11:27 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
United Associaation of plumbers & pipefitters local 290 commercial plumber 12 years
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09-13-2001, 11:58 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
UFCW 381 19 years
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09-14-2001, 04:26 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 48 Portland Oregon. Member in good standing for 34 Years.
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09-14-2001, 04:45 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IAFF Local 1062, with a soon to be retired father in Sheet Metal Workers Local 16.
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09-14-2001, 05:22 AM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IAFF Local 2210 (retired)
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09-14-2001, 06:40 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
PECG BU#9 - Professional Engineers in CA Government! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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09-14-2001, 10:05 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
foursalt,
It seems that we share the same moniker with a different spelling. Hopefully not too much confusion arises from this. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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09-14-2001, 10:34 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
AFSCME...Past member Operating Engineers 612
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09-14-2001, 10:56 AM
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Fry
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IBEW local 1245 15 years
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09-14-2001, 12:11 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IBEW local 48
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09-14-2001, 12:27 PM
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Tuna!
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Proud to be a union member,and my heart goes out to the americans who lost there lives in N.Y. and Washington. My prayers go out to the famlies who lost loved ones.
I.L.W.U. local 4
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09-14-2001, 01:13 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Bob Dawson Retired, local 5 AWPPW after 36 yrs and proud of it.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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09-14-2001, 01:54 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
UFCW Local 305
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09-14-2001, 02:29 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IAMAW Local 1040 - Northwest Airlines, SeaTac.
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09-14-2001, 07:32 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
This thread was started only as show of solidarity among union brothers and sisters during this tragedy! It's not meant to imply that union workers are better than non-union workers. All Americans,both union and non-union,share and are affected by this tragedy. I thought it would be nice to share this with other union members on ifish.
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09-14-2001, 08:31 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IAFF 2109
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09-15-2001, 01:34 PM
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Cutthroat
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09-15-2001, 06:26 PM
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Cutthroat
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Sheet Metal Workers Local 16
God Bless America
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09-15-2001, 08:18 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
UPTO ( united power and trade organization )
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09-15-2001, 10:30 PM
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Chromer
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Teamsters Local 313
United Parcel Service
Day 1 union since I was 18 (13 years of service in the IBT)
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09-16-2001, 05:27 AM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MACHINISTS AND AEROSPACE WORKERS LOCAL 751
And proud of it!!
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09-17-2001, 06:30 PM
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Coho
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
BLE - Brohterhood of Locomotive Engineers.
International Web Site
Sorry that I was late to join this thread.
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09-17-2001, 08:53 PM
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Steelhead
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I'm not a member of any union and am not likly to be. I'm not overfond of unions but this is not the time nor place to discuss the finner points of labor and managment.
However I have served 21.5 years in the US Navy. I have had friends stationed at the Pentagon over the years.(I hope none at present) So I too have lost comrades and agree 100% IT IS PERSONAL.
This is one of those times in the history of our country when, WE THE PEOPLE, needs to resound in one voice.
Yes, mistakes were made by executives. Mistakes were made by policy makers. Mistakes were made by the Intelligence comunity and almost everyone else down the line too.
But, at this point, looking back must only be done to keep us from making the same mistakes. If we waste time and effort trying to put blame on those we don't happen to like, we do no honnor to ourselves nor to our fallen comrades. Also, it will, decrease the effectiveness of our defense and our ability to retaliate.
Just as in 1941, We now need to pull together. We need to set aside our differences and all work together. And make no mistake, our enemies are capable of making us pay for any mistakes in loyalty. Our fist loyalty HAS TO BE to our people. Americans! Where ever they came from, or are now, our people need our commitment.
I also realize we can't do this alone. We are going to need the help of the rest of the civilizes world. But if we can't keep our own commitment strong the rest of the world wont be impressed enough to follow our example. If that happens, we can expect to go through this kind of thing again and again and again.
So the point of all this, KEEP THE FAITH, stand behind our country by doing the work that is needed. Put away our petty differences and pull together. Remember Freedom only comes through VICTORY.
Ok I'll get off my soap box now, sory if I got a bit windy.
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09-18-2001, 09:29 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
PACE Local 1097-8
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09-19-2001, 07:02 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
BIGSTEW,
You were right by saying those were our planes that went down.
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MACHINISTS AND AEROSPACE WORKERS LOCAL 751 from Seattle Boeing
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09-19-2001, 07:02 PM
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Coho
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Sheet Metal Workers Local #16
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09-20-2001, 09:46 PM
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Steelhead
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IAFF local 3828
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09-21-2001, 07:29 AM
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Tuna!
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I see there are many Union members here.
IMHO I don't see the need to segregate.
We are all Americans I don't care who built what.......It's all personal now...just .02.........Os
I'm not bashing union members,I just got a little bent because of earlier comments,what makes "you" soo speacial,we all lost a little something that day.
United We Stand
former teamster member [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]too much dead weight for me [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: Osprey ]
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09-26-2001, 05:56 PM
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King Salmon
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09-27-2001, 03:15 PM
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Chromer
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Proud member of IBEW local 48 as part of the District Council of Trade Unions. Working toward cleaner rivers in the lower Columbia and Willamette. Union member and public employee....how do ya like me now? [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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09-28-2001, 06:54 AM
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Tuna!
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[img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] I like you just fine,
I'm not against unions,I against devideing Americans,because of what they do for a living...thats all....Os
United we stand
Proud to be an American
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09-28-2001, 03:32 PM
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
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09-28-2001, 04:59 PM
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Coho
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Boy this is touchy.......dont hammer me to hard.....I'm a teamster.........for close to thirty years.........unions? hell.......they left with the dinos......its nothing but but big buis now.....we the worker dont matter....unless there grabbing your dues..........I also hold a several other cards so dont hammer me...its the same story across the board....Unions had there day.........there gone....cause the **** leaders have stolen it...and forgot about us...there not gonna give it back.......
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09-28-2001, 07:49 PM
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Coho
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09-29-2001, 02:10 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
cruisin, you wont get a bash from me because it`s the truth.
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09-29-2001, 04:07 PM
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Chromer
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
IBEW Local 125 20 years
Teamsters 233 4 years [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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09-30-2001, 08:59 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
I am not trying to start a fight here.
I honestly want to know why some unions not all don't give a crap abouit part time employees. I wirk part time and got stiffed out of vacation pay after two years with the company becaus I did not work enough hours in a year. The union got there union dues. The jerks could have at least sent me a stupid contract. So I took my two weeks off and got no pay. Why is that? Becuase the regular employees did not think the rule needed to be changed. I am sure most unions are great. My moms and grandmas are. I hope that everyone else in a union does not get shafted like I did.
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10-01-2001, 12:11 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Robert,
Under most union contracts, a person needs to work at least 25 hrs a week to qualify for benefits of any kind, but what you need to do
is get ahold of your union rep and discuss making it an issue for the upcoming next contracts negotiations, talk with your fellow workers and get thier support. It is YOUR union, but even without a union contract I don`t know of any company that offers benefits for employees working less than 25 hrs a week. From the sounds of things I take it you must be a student working at a restaurant under the food servers union.
Contact your local chapter see what they can do for you. And while your down there, get a copy of your contract handbook...
It is the bible that the compnay nad the union must abide by under state law..
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10-01-2001, 10:59 PM
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Chromer
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Re: Union Members on Ifish
Local #5 AWPPW - 25 years
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