WILD Silvers for Sale?

[Krome Brite]

I recently noticed a Safeway ad in the paper that was for WILD Silver Salmon. I remember somebody a while back said this might just be a gimmick to get people to buy farmed fish. Might this be the case or are these fall silvers from the Columbia, or elsewhere? Anybody know?? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Not that I'm interested in buying any. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] Just curious.

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: Krome Brite ]

[Robert]

It is true they are wild caught fish. I work in the seafood department in a Safeway seafood. First it was off the Oregon coast and then off the Canadien coast, today it came from the Copper river.

KB, I don't see how a WILD coho ad could be a gimmick to buy farmed fish. Seems logical they are trying to promote wild fish as the better ones to buy. And that is NOT true - for the run's sake or even the taste! Gillnet caught fish - either commercial &/or Indian netted - are likely where the stores are getting them. These nets kill all native fish that swim into them and are legal to sell at market. As with the stores promoting the sale of wild salmon and steelhead up in Washington, I suggest you protest this to the manager and fish buyers of the stores involved. And explain why. The more that do this the more likely good will come of it for us. ... I will also tell you that I have eaten legal wild mint bright salmon (mostly Tillamook fall chinooks, and many up in B.C. and AK) - and I can tell you that some are excellant, some are good, and some are hohum; regardless of how sealice fresh and bright they are. But I have never eaten farmed salmon that isn't absolutely excellant! And I have eaten plenty of it (farmed salmon are available when our runs aren't in). It is better tasting and richer than most of the hatchery or legal native salmon caught in our NW rivers. 'B.C. Farmed Chinooks' are particularly the best eating salmon this side of a freshly arrived Wind R. springer or AK Copper River chinook or sockeye. And the farmed Atlantic salmon are good too; although I don't buy them anymore. Tell these things to the stores!

[smilesforu]

Farmed fish may taste good but so does a cheeto!! Farm fish are pumped with anitbiotics and fed a red dyed dog food...yummy [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]. I'll catch my dinner thanks anyway

[Mr.Kitch'nPass]

I'm with you Smiles. There's nothing like the taste of a freshly caught slab of salmon coming off the grill! Maybe it's mental but the farm fish just don't taste the same to me.
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[Snapshot]

RT, Have you forgotten how great fresh caught sockeye are to eat. I have found they have the best overall flavor and just cannot get enough of them. Also the very best salmon for eating is the one you catch. It's always better than one from the market.
Marty, If you car concerned about what the fish are eating perhaps you should start reading the labels on what we are getting from the stores. Losts of preseratives. Our innerds should be pickled by now. Pigs eat a lot of slop and end up on my table anyway so whats with the farmed salmon?
I'll bet the fish is better for you than those cheetos.....
Keep your hooks wet and good fishing... [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Robert]

The salomon are troll caught, not caught in gillnets. Do you know where the farm raised atlatic salmon comes from? A lot of it comes from Chile. That is gross, that it has to travel so far, to get here. The question is how long is it dead before it gets to the store?

[boater]

i have never bought salmon from anyone and i never will. i will catch my own, after reading this whole thread, it leaves me alittle confused to say the least.

[Joe Schwab]

Some of you guys sound like walking ,talking ads for peta (I refuse to capitalize that). With all this talk about preservatives and chemicals, hell's fire, when I grew up we brushed the DDT off strawberries and ate them in the field, chased the spray wagons around the orchards and drove cars with ("horrors") leaded gasoline. I'm pushing 61, blood pressure 120 over 80, cholesterol -200. In very good health, and not ready to settle down in AZ yet. I just read petas little propaganda about how bad fish is for your health. How long do you want to live anyway? I'm going to keep eating fish from whatever source. I may draw the line on carp from Columbia Slough. Preservatives can't be all bad. If they can keep a hot dog from decaying in a garbage dump for 20 years think about what they can do for your liver. All these health food nuts and joggers are falling over dead in their tracks before they hit 60. You gotta give your insides something do do other than digest nuts, berries and protein. Throw it a challenge occasionally and it will be the better for it. Now don't those out there who are thin skinned take this too serious. My ego is easily bruised. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Salmonator]

I posted awhile back that I saw a sign at the local Fred Meyers' fish department that said "wild" coho. The fish in front of the display was missing the magic fin. I was also told that the wild designation just meant that it was "caught" not farmed. Maybe Robert can do a little fin-clip analysis for us and report back?

[Trick]

Buy a farmed fish, put a gillnetter out of business. I almost cried a tear of happiness to know that the market is flooded with so many salmon that the wholesale price is in the gutter. Gillnetters not fishing because the price is so low, what else could be more wonderful.

Does anyone know what ESA stands for? End of Sportsfishing Act. Sure, we have heard of the enviromental impacts of fish farms and we know what's coming when our uncle El' Nino' comes back to visit his favorite Northwest family.

The only fish you'll get your hands on may be that farm-fresh gem at your local seafood market. I'm going to try one this winter to help support the continued low wholesale prices in years to come.

Bring me a second helping of Purina fed fish pleeeeaaassse. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

LMAO Capt.!!!! That's why your so friggin' tall dude! You're radioactive [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Safest way to be sure you're not getting a bunch of preservatives is catch your own. I kind of like those two headed trout you can catch at the old Trojan site [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
Stew

[Robert]

The term "wild" is thrown around way to much. Stores advertise wild fish, but that means they were not farm raised they could have been hatchery fish or not. Having an intact adipose fin does not mean they are wild fish. I have seen some fish that had adipose fins and some without. I was kind of angered by this but what can I do? The fin could have been clipped at the palce where it was filleted. That is probaly what happened and the fish person may have been misinformed. The bottom line is do not beleive everything you read or hear. It may or may not be true. "Wild" in terms of the store means that it was not raised in a farm.

[smilesforu]

I forgot to add....I eat cheetos [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]. Farmed salmon make great crab bait. Fish farms come with alot of environmental impacts, but they also come with benefits. Guess it depends on your point of view and were you live.

[Phish_on]

Regardless of where these fish came from, it remains a good opportunity to EDUCATE retailers that using the term "wild" to advertise salmon may result in a bunch of fish-nuts making a BIG STINK ...

[Jennie@ifish]

Whoops! I am a little behind on my post reading. Sorry for the double topic.
Jen

[Krome Brite]

Thanks for all the info Robert and others. I screwed up topic heading (put chinook instead of silvers) so I just changed it. What can I say, I was tired. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] So basically the word 'wild' is sometimes just an exciting adjective ( or adverb, whatever [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) to entice people to buy what is really farmed fish. And then some of the fish are actually wild or hatchery. If a person thinks about it, our taxes go to pay for those hatchery fish so they can be caught by gillnetters and people selling there fish to stores and not us. Then the fish are bought in the stores by people like us. It just makes no sense! I think I will complain. Maybe to the CEO of Safeway-if there is such a person? [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

[DanS]

I like to eat "natural" food, so I'll probably die of "natural" cancer. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Master Baiter]

FYI: The term "WILD" is being used as marketing ploy by the commercial industry to entice the sale of commercial CAUGHT fish OVER farm RAISED fish. It seemed that some had the idea reversed. The rational behind the campaign is that caught fish are healthier and taste better than farmed fish. I posted a article about this in a previous thread: http://www.ifish.net/cgi-local/ultim...&f=1&t=006181.

Thomas

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: Master Baiter ]

[boater]

my whole family has always fished, my dad, his dad, uncles, brothers etc. we have never had any reason to buy salmon and i have never and will never buy any, i have never had salmon in a resturaunt nor do i want to, i will continue to catch my own, i realy dont care what this store bought crap tastes like because to me it makes no sense for a sport salmon fisherman to buy salmon, pen raised or commercial caught, but there is one reason, you have to realy stink as a fisherman.

[Phish_on]

they welcome your comments - - -
http://www.safeway.com/contact_us.asp