Glassing with mounted scope

Got One! · 10-07-2007, 02:21 PM

I was out doing the deer thing, yesterday and was Glassed 4 times by guys using the rifle scope (on the, i'm sure loaded rifle), instead of binoculars. Not only was it un-nerving a bit but it really started getting me angry by the last event.

So I guess it was somewhat my own fault not having any blaze on, and I also will admit to glassing from time to time with my scope. That said I've only done that in out of the way areas when I wasn't sure what I saw by eye on a paticular object, not an entire clear cut. The Snow peak area was like a circus out there this weekend. People there the week before and this week were setting up camps and leaving garbage all over the place...what a shame....I digress...

Anyway no real point to this, other than just something to think about if anyone glasses this way from the recievers perspective. I really was at a loss of what to do, I saw the guys "on me" and I was in a stationary spot, but if you jerk to wave or something do the pinheads shoot because the thing they saw just moved, or if you stay still do they shoot because they are bored and that lump over there might be good to see if the rifle shoots straight ( a lot of shots going on over there in what had to be that scenario, 15 shots in a minute or two )

Orion · 10-07-2007, 05:06 PM

I would guess that some blaze orange would have solved most of the problem. It is a very scary thing to have happen!

huntinfool · 10-07-2007, 05:18 PM

I think blaze Orange makes me more of a target. The same people that glass other hunters with rifle scopes will still glass you with Orange on. This topic is one of the reasons I hunt as far from roads as possible.

scottishsetter · 10-07-2007, 05:19 PM

Or just a nice Oregon Ducks Green Cap. Or a yellow one. Sorry.

Got One! · 10-07-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by huntinfool

I think blaze Orange makes me more of a target. The same people that glass other hunters with rifle scopes will still glass you with Orange on. This topic is one of the reasons I hunt as far from roads as possible.

Yeah every one of them was a road hunter, I usually get into the deeper woods (which I was early in the morning) around noon is where I parked myself on the side of a tree stump in one place for a couple hours on the lower end of a clear cut to take a break for a few hours. After the last one "aimed" at me, I got up and moved back to some old timber.

If nothing else I'll probably carry a Blaze cap on me for those situations should it happen again. The one I was really mad at did it twice from two different locations, an hour apart...idiot.. He had his rifle on me easily for 20-30 seconds. I was not amused.

Wang · 10-07-2007, 06:36 PM

And why would you allow this guy to "scope" you for 20-30 seconds?

duckboy · 10-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Welcome to the world of Idiots.

You have just entered the most terrifying level "Idiots with with guns."

Just like in the other world, "Idots on the road", and its cousin, "Idiots at work" you are waking up to the fact that there are idiots out there!

Bout all you can do is get down and get out of sight, If i knew someone was glassing me via a riflescope, I'd act as though my life was on the line and belly crawl ASAP behind cover.

I'd also not hunt any area within eyesight of a road, since the road is a vortex for the Idiots.

I'm not saying that you are an Idiot,
But there are tons of them out there, and they will KILL you by accident, or on purpose. In either case, you are dead, and they are still Idiots.

When an idiot points a gun at someone, their chances of taking a bullet have just gone up exponentially.

Take heed and take cover if you get glassed by someone with a riflescope.... PLEASE

Wang · 10-07-2007, 06:48 PM

Like Duckboy said, take cover.

jnicholson · 10-07-2007, 06:57 PM

Good Gosh, get the heck out of there, get some orange out. Half those guys out there have fogged up scopes and are so excited they can't hold still anyway. I'm glad you weren't shot. Don't put yourself in that position again.

That's terrible.

Toledofish · 10-07-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duckboy

Welcome to the world of Idiots.

You have just entered the most terrifying level "Idiots with with guns."

Just like in the other world, "Idots on the road", and its cousin, "Idiots at work" you are waking up to the fact that there are idiots out there!

Bout all you can do is get down and get out of sight, If i knew someone was glassing me via a riflescope, I'd act as though my life was on the line and belly crawl ASAP behind cover.

I'd also not hunt any area within eyesight of a road, since the road is a vortex for the Idiots.

I'm not saying that you are an Idiot,
But there are tons of them out there, and they will KILL you by accident, or on purpose. In either case, you are dead, and they are still Idiots.

When an idiot points a gun at someone, their chances of taking a bullet have just gone up exponentially.

Take heed and take cover if you get glassed by someone with a riflescope.... PLEASE

Got One! · 10-07-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wang

And why would you allow this guy to "scope" you for 20-30 seconds?

At the time I was not sure what to do, as I said at the beginning, I was somewhat worried if I made a sudden move would they shoot. The last time I slowly took off the camo hat I had on....and finally, not so proudly, flipped the bird, and was in some commentary about my feelings a bit. At that time he immediately put down the rifle and went back to his truck and drove off. I was in the mindset initially they would see me through the scope and put the rifle right down as I could see him pointing it at me from 250-300 yrds and that would be the end of it.

As far as "allowing" goes, I dont think its a crime with the penalty by death, although one might consider it protection of ones self, for doing that, (unless it was on purpose). Hopefully YOU wont find yourself in that position to see how long you allow it before doing something about it.... as I see it there is one choice to 100% not allow it any longer.

In the future getting under cover would probably be the best bet, unless it was a shoot 1st see what they shot later kinda guy, which was on my mind. At any rate I hope it doesnt happen to anyone else, and if it does, you now have to chance to figure out what you're going to do about it!

It does take a bit of motivation away for hunting a clear cut now, as if you hunt a clear cut, there is going to be a roads all around it. We shall see how the blaze works for this issue. (although for 40 years of hunting that was a 2nd time of that happening) (and two times having to hit the deck due to shot flying overhead. (guys shooting at crows on a hill with high powered rifles....dumb)

Wang · 10-07-2007, 08:20 PM

My "allowing" doesn't mean firing a round at the person or in their general direction, it means move and take cover. What I am saying is that if I see a person with a firearm that is pointing in my general direction, I take cover behind something. Just because they can't see me doesn't mean the round can't find me. Maybe they are scoping me or maybe there is a critter on the hill below me or above me. Either way I'm moving in a hurry. This has happened a few times over the years.

The only time I am sure I was scoped was when an older man cut across a fence line intersection I was sitting on. He looked down the fence line at me (30 yards max). I was wearing orange camo while sitting on my butt with my back against a post. He did a double take and pulled up on me. I dove for cover. I had a few choice words for him as he trotted back where he came from. This was the same guy who I spoke with a couple hours earlier. It was E. Oregon and opening day. I watched him walk up the hill towards me while I was watching a clearing. He proceeded to "sight in" a rifle to the tune of a little over a box of ammo. I spoke with him between rounds while he was attempting to sight in. He was on at least on paper when I walked away.

fishlis 1 · 10-07-2007, 08:33 PM

I did not wear orange until 4 years ago when my friend got shot at on his property:shocked: by someone that shouldn't have been there, now I always wear orange. If some tool puts a scope on me there wouldn't be an animal anywhere in a 10 mile area because I would be yelling every obscenity in the book at them. The simple fix is to get some binos!!

Sam

Got One! · 10-07-2007, 08:45 PM

Thats fine Wang I didnt mean to come off so strong about it, I think it was my interpretation of the wording. I was in a bad position for moving. It was a fresh cut, but cleared, and I was taking a break (kinda) I was on the ground, my back on a lone stump that was pushed up a bit out of the ground, my feet were going uphill on a small log (like I was in a hammock but on the ground so I couldnt roll out of it) So moving out of that into a protected spot was not a couple seconds deal...especially for me! If I was standing i'd have moved some where quick.

Really the point of this was something for others to think about before hand, whether having it pointed at you or, viewing through the scope instead of the bino's even if it was for a second....which as I said I have done, although never at a person before even by accident. It was always something I saw by eye that looked like an animal, and I was getting a better look. So not really Glassing as it were.

I use to always wear blaze when hunting, but stopped a couple years ago...back to some of it I guess.

Wang · 10-07-2007, 09:34 PM

No problem and I can see how it could be read a few different ways. Regardless, I wasn't there and each situation is different.

Did you see any critters?

lentz · 10-07-2007, 09:54 PM

Just think about the number of times that you have been in the crosshairs and did not even relize it. Pretty scary!!!

Ifishsum · 10-08-2007, 12:13 AM

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and finally, not so proudly, flipped the bird

That's been my reaction the couple times I've been scoped. I always wear orange, too. Why people don't bother to use binos is beyond me.

Hawk · 10-08-2007, 12:58 AM

I agree with Duckboy; the idiot factor is MUCH higher during deer season, and the closer to Portland you are (or most other major city) the higher the idiot factor.

I think EVERYONE, regardless of age, should have to take the Hunter Safety course and the minimum score to pass should increase with age. If you're 12, then 75%; if your 21 then 85%, if your 25 then 90%, if you're over 30 then 100%, or something like that. And the hunter safety cards should expire every four years or so like a driver's license. ODFW should require EVERY person that buys a tag to show a current/valid hunter safety card. Just my

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Yeti · 10-08-2007, 10:32 AM

******* idiots! What else can you say?

Archery.

Wreckless · 10-08-2007, 11:04 AM

I'm with you Hawk.

SOME of the "idiots" would just take up golf......Nothing against Golfers

The scariest part of hunting in the brush is that last few feet before you step out into the road...At times I just talk outloud as I near a road or better yet, I start singing

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BTW - These lazy good for nuthin' road hunters need to GO HOME and drink!!!

BTW-I'm 47, 6'1" , 260 flabby lbs and I get into woods and HUNT!!!!

Sorry a bit off subject, but IDIOTS ARE IDIOTS!!!!

fishunterx · 10-08-2007, 11:26 AM

Last I checked shooting from your rig or from the road was still illegal wasn't it? The first thing I was ever told when I started hunting, "never user your rifle to glass a person." And if you see blaze, no reason to have to even scope it with binoc's you know it's another hunter.

I dont think deer have become smart enough to wear blaze yet.
just my

ehunter · 10-08-2007, 11:55 AM

Whats funny is that the field of view of binos vs a scope is huge. Whats not funny is some one doing that to another person. I believe in blaze orange or something at least red so they can see it. I also agree with the other guys about their being idiots out there good luck.

Smoked Salmon · 10-08-2007, 01:11 PM

It amazes me that folks are willing to point their gun at something that they aren't willing to shoot. It's a short list folks.
1. Ground
2. Game animal
3. Animal attacking you
4. Sky (but remember that those bullets do come down)

Did I miss any?

Friendly Fisher · 10-08-2007, 01:23 PM

In Washington Blaze orange is a law. Is it not in Oregon?