Bad Rex (DA BEARS)

Dave G · 09-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Rex stinks! We need a more stable Q-back

anglingaddict · 09-23-2007, 07:45 PM

I kinda felt that way after their last superbowl appearance!

Flatfish · 09-23-2007, 08:30 PM

The winningest team in superbowl history(Tied with the evil empire) beat the bears.

Who cares who the losing qb was?

Long live Tom Landry

twobullz · 09-23-2007, 08:30 PM

yeah I agree, I feel bad for all the Bears fans out there. They have a better team then there qb shows. I guess all I can say is HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS

mandinga · 09-23-2007, 08:32 PM

fluke

Wang · 09-23-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by anglingaddict

I kinda felt that way after their last superbowl appearance!

I felt that way before they made the Superbowl.

GO PATS!

FireCat · 09-23-2007, 08:34 PM

Are you talking about ....WRECKS GROSSMAN??

jokester · 09-24-2007, 05:18 AM

Everytime I watch them play, it's like re-living a bad nightmare all over again

Did you hear the crowd when he threw that INT about midway through the 3rd quarter? "GRIESE...GRIESE...GREISE!!" That should tell you something about us Bears fans! We're tired of seeing Rex, and we want to see some changes. Yeah, you can argue that he makes a few good plays and has a couple good games...big friggin' deal! I can go out there and make a few good throws and have a good game every now and again, and i'm a chump!! This guy gets paid hundreds of thousands of $$$'s to do his job, which he's not. If I didn't do my job, i'd be let go. Let's see it happen in Chi-town. Good QB's are consistent, and I just don't see that happening anytime soon for Grossman (or maybe even EVER

).

Oh yeah, and I miss Thomas Jones too...

Rant over...back to my college football :grin:

-jokester

backlash442 · 09-24-2007, 06:19 AM

I said Grossman wasn't any good last time this was brought up. Got ripped for it too. Maybe some are finally starting to see the light.

Threemuch · 09-24-2007, 07:35 AM

Rex has two HUGE problems, he never moves in the pocket and he makes alot of bad decisions.

I can't believe that having a great D somehow makes a very bad quarterback somehow acceptable. The bears might have been able to pull it off with a great running game, but with an average one? Nope. The Bears are quite possibly the worst offense in the league, except for maybe the chiefs, and LJ will come on in a few games.

If the bears would have picked up Trent Green (or any other servicable qb) in the offseason, they might have made a run. They don't need a good quarterback, just a decent one, and a good decision maker.

Think about what their locker room is like. I bet the defense won't even make eye contact with sexy Rexy, let alone talk to him.

Got One! · 09-24-2007, 09:05 AM

Come on Rex is the best player on the team.....as long as you don't include the Bears in that statement.

jokester · 09-24-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by backlash442

I said Grossman wasn't any good last time this was brought up. Got ripped for it too. Maybe some are finally starting to see the light.

I saw the light last year...it was a HUGE GLARING BEAM!!!!

Unfortunately, MOST of the Bears fans see the light too. Sure wish Lovie and the management would

-jokester

Dave G · 09-24-2007, 02:08 PM

At least my Cubs might make it.

CATCH AND EAT · 09-24-2007, 03:06 PM

DA Beers need a life raft or at least a gurney to carry their sorry selves off the field. Talk about a team whose fans should be sporting a paper bag. YIKES!

Tacklebuster · 09-25-2007, 05:28 AM

All this same junk was said about Mcnabb last weekend. All of a sudden he comes in wearing one of the ugliest uniforms in NFL history and has a career day and he is back from zero to hero status in 60 minutes.

It's 3 games in the season. The Bears do have some problems but they don't all start and end with the guy snapping the ball.

Last year I saw Brett Favre have worse games than that and nobody said a word. Funny how that is.....

Sad thing is the media gives the fans most of their opinions and everyone in this day and age is looking for the "quick fix". Anyone that knows football knows a "quick fix" is something to laugh at. The fans that chant Griese make me laugh. I can remember two teams he started on the fans boo'd him off the field after most series. You think he can actually turn things around... Please.

I am not a Rex fan but I do know that he did lead them to a Superbowl... and for him to be thrown in the gutter a year later is pretty pethetic. If the Bears can give him a chance to get settled, get a good running game back, and get the flow back they had last year... things will be fine.

ICHTHYDEMON · 09-25-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

All this same junk was said about Mcnabb last weekend. All of a sudden he comes in wearing one of the ugliest uniforms in NFL history and has a career day and he is back from zero to hero status in 60 minutes.

The Eagles uniform reminded me of one of the 158 combinations the Ducks wear. Good lord,those were terrible.

By the way,Rex did NOT lead the bears to the SB. He was just along for the ride,throwing INTs and fumbling away snaps all the way. The Bears made it to the SB in spite of Rex. If the Bears had ANY resemblance of a QB they would have won the SB. Constantly throwing balls into double and triple coverage won't get you anywhere but behind by 7 more points.

Peyton Manning lead his team to the SB.

Rex sucks,he sucked last year,he sucks this year,he'll suck next year.

CATCH AND EAT · 09-25-2007, 07:04 AM

McNabb is a McNugget. Nuff said.

backlash442 · 09-25-2007, 07:34 AM

Fans are fickle. It's always what have you done for me lately. Philly fans are probably some of the hardest to please too.

Some say Farve is selfish. He'll only play if he's on a good team (comtemplating retirement). Sure he wasn't booed last year when he didn't play that well but look at his history with the orginization. He's a H.F. qb that has not only taken them to the S.B. but won it. Grossman can't say that.

Tampa Bay and Baltimore both won SB's w/out a good qb. They were asked not to lose it and let the defense win it. Grossman doesn't manage the game like that. He does lose it for them. Although this year's defense has some issues and Dallas was able to drive the ball down the field on more than one occassion. BTW it's not like Grossman is a rookie and needs to settle in or his first year starting.

TB, didn't I tell you Urban Meyer would do good things down in Florida a couple of years ago? Although I don't care for the guy myself.

Threemuch · 09-25-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

All this same junk was said about Mcnabb last weekend. All of a sudden he comes in wearing one of the ugliest uniforms in NFL history and has a career day and he is back from zero to hero status in 60 minutes.

I am not a Rex fan but I do know that he did lead them to a Superbowl... and for him to be thrown in the gutter a year later is pretty pethetic. If the Bears can give him a chance to get settled, get a good running game back, and get the flow back they had last year... things will be fine.

Whoa, wait a minute. You are going to compare the McNabb situation to Gross-man's? In the words of the great johnny mac: You can not be serious!

The guy has had a game with a passer rating of ZERO. There are only 9 guys who have played in the league that can say that. He has like 6 games LAST YEAR with a passer rating of under 40.

Let's look at McNabb v. Grossman. Career passing rating of 85.5 v. 69.3. This year 96.7 v. 45.2. 157 TDs and 73 picks v. 28 TDs and 32 picks. Do you wanna rethink that comparison? And that's with a defense that puts the ball right back in Rexy's hands every time he screws up. In the words of the great Homer Simpson: Facts, shmacts. You can prove any thing with facts that is even remotely true.

I know passer rating is not the end all be all of quarterbacking, but the bears got to the superbowl last year DESPITE grossman, not BECAUSE of him.

Nobody is throwing him under the bus. He is standing in front of the express all by himself. I just don't think anyone will push him out of the way, or even warn him. If Lovey doesn't bench the guy, he should be kicked in the head. The whole front office should be kicked in the head for not doing more in the off season to get rid of him and get someone else.

Tacklebuster · 09-25-2007, 09:40 AM

You guys crack me up......

One person does not win or loose a game in the NFL, period. Rex had some awesome games last year as well as some bad ones. The Bears have issues and not all of them are Rex.

The Bears do not have the run attack, offensive line protection or the defense it had last year. Those three things are crucial, I could care a less who is throwing the ball. Trent Dilfer is one of the worst QB's in the game (in my opinion) and he still was the right guy at the time for the Ravens to get their ring.

Look at Emmit Smith, do you think he was just this awesome back? I think he was an average back playing on a team with an awesome offensive line, the best blocking full back in the game, and a good (not great) quarterback. That combination led Emmit and Troy to be effective.... very effective. Their defense was also top notch, that is what makes a team. How well did Emmit do in Arizona........

Kurt Warner for the Rams... Awesome.
Kurt Warner for the Giants and Arizona..... Bad

It's about the team, not the player. The media and todays fans expect quick results. I guess we can bench Rex, fire Lovie, and then if that don't work, lay off the equipment manager but you aint gonna have a better team.

They just need to find some good balance.

Urban Meyer.... yea you called it but I aint on the band wagon wagon yet. The true test is when he has a team of 100 percent of his recruits.

backlash442 · 09-25-2007, 10:12 AM

TB, you are absolutely right....one person does not win or lose a game. It still is a team sport. However, a bad qb can put a team in a position to lose more than win. Problem with Grossman is his consistency or lack of. Do you think a field goal kicker would still be kicking for a team if he was at 50% or less? As I said before it's the management of the game and he is not doing a good job of it. Yes the Bears have other issues besides offense.

While I never liked Emmit Smith (49er fan) the guy did end up becoming the all time rushing leader. An average back isn't going to do that no matter how good his OL is. By the time he went to AZ. his career was all but over. Much like Jerry Rice after he left Oakland.

Kurt Warner can still throw. He almost beat the Ravens coming in off the bench. It was his injuries that caused his problems both with the Rams, Giants and Cards.

Oh I'll never be on Urban Cryer's bandwagon. But I always thought the guy could coach and he's done an excellent job recruiting. In the top 5 in recruiting classes in the 2 years he's been there. This year will be no different I'm sure.

Tacklebuster · 09-25-2007, 11:35 AM

Emmit a great back.... he just had great guys to run behind. Barry Sanders, that's a great back. Played on the worst team, ran behind a weak line and still racked up yards. Imagine if Barry played for Dallas in the glory years....

I am not a Rex fan but what to you really do at this point? Griese is not any better of a QB than Grossman, you really aint got anybody else and there is really nobody to pick up. Say Lovie benches Rex and Griese does no better... Now Lovie and the coaching staff look pretty ugly. Get what you can this year then go after a franchise QB next season.

julezilla · 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM

hell, last weekend, I'd have taken Grossman over Bulger, who last I checked was in the top 5 in the league - at least Grossman ended up with positive points in my fantasy league, unlike Bulger, who cost me 2.5.

jokester · 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

I am not a Rex fan but what to you really do at this point? Griese is not any better of a QB than Grossman, you really aint got anybody else and there is really nobody to pick up. Say Lovie benches Rex and Griese does no better... Now Lovie and the coaching staff look pretty ugly. Get what you can this year then go after a franchise QB next season.

I understand what you're saying TB, and i'll agree with you that the Bears have a few more issues to work out. HOWEVER...that being said, Rex is not cutting it...PERIOD! Why NOT put Griese in?? He can't do much worse...give him a shot. If Rex is benched and Griese comes in only to suck too, at least we've explored the option? How many times does it have to happen? How many times does Grossman throw into double and triple coverage and gets picked off before someone wakes up and says, "Hey...he shouldn't be doing that!" By NOT benching him, Lovie is sending the signal that what he's doing is and will be tolerated by the Bears organization! You won't win games with a QB like that, and you won't win a Super Bowl either.

-jokester

backlash442 · 09-25-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

Emmit a great back.... he just had great guys to run behind. Barry Sanders, that's a great back. Played on the worst team, ran behind a weak line and still racked up yards. Imagine if Barry played for Dallas in the glory years....

I am not a Rex fan but what to you really do at this point? Griese is not any better of a QB than Grossman, you really aint got anybody else and there is really nobody to pick up. Say Lovie benches Rex and Griese does no better... Now Lovie and the coaching staff look pretty ugly. Get what you can this year then go after a franchise QB next season.

Oh hands down I think Sanders was a better back than Smith. I had the opportunity to watch Sanders break Marcus Allens college single season record for rushing while in Tokyo. OSU played there and I got tickets for it. I wanted Sanders to break the NFL record not Smith. I was bummed when he retired.

I haven't thought about nor will think about what to do with Grossman. I'm not a Bears fan so could care a less. I'm just pointing out that imo I don't think he's a good qb. That's not to say there aren't other bad qb's in the NFL either. Plenty of those as well.

leadeyedbugger · 09-25-2007, 02:58 PM

according to espn.com sources say that Griese will start this Sunday, supposed to be confirmed tomorrow.....stay tuned for more....
Bears fans...cross your fingers

Salmonator · 09-25-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

You guys crack me up......

One person does not win or loose a game in the NFL, period.

I agree for the most part, but if it WAS possible for one person to do it, it is the QB. The ball goes to his hands 99.9% of the time. I'd say he has a good chance to lose the game for the team.

ICHTHYDEMON · 09-25-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacklebuster

The Bears do not have the run attack, offensive line protection or the defense it had last year. Those three things are crucial, I could care a less who is throwing the ball. Trent Dilfer is one of the worst QB's in the game (in my opinion) and he still was the right guy at the time for the Ravens to get their ring.

The Ravens were very similar to the Bears last year.

They both had outstanding defenses,and both had great run games.

The difference was the QB. Trent Dilfer wasn't spectacular,but he didn't lose the game for the Ravens either.

Rex has a way of losing games all by himself. He throws more INTs that get returned for TDs than anyone I've ever seen. You can't have a good run game when you're behind all the time. The defense can't be good either when they're on the field all the time.

I swear Rex is blind. He throws into double and triple coverages about every 4th pass attempt.

Griese may not be the savior,but he can't possibly be any worse than Rex.

Kyle Orton won a bunch of games a couple years back when Rex was hurt. Maybe its time to give him another go.

julezilla · 09-25-2007, 07:42 PM

Looks like Rexie will be keeping the bench company this weekend.

Reports: Bears to bench QB Grossman for Sunday's game at Detroit
September 25, 2007

AP - Sep 25, 6:52 pm EDT
More PhotosCHICAGO (AP) -- Rex Grossman reportedly will be benched by the Chicago Bears for Sunday's game at Detroit, with Brian Griese starting at quarterback. Citing unidentified sources, NFL.com, the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday that the beleaguered Grossman would sit when the Bears (1-2) visit the Lions (2-1).
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

Dave G · 09-25-2007, 08:55 PM

Now lets see what Brian can do for DA BEARS. If he soundly wins, it looks bad for Wrecks.

FireCat · 09-25-2007, 08:55 PM

YUP..That is what they are saying on NFL.COM also..http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true.....

Personaly I agree with many of the so-called experts Greise is just a band aid . Da bears got rid of a very good running back..and didnt even try to get Brian Leftwhich, which went to Atlanta To back up Joey and they could of got Jeff Garcia early in the year just to help out if Grossman failed..Like many knew he would.

Grossman gave Dallas 14 points in interceptions last week..both were thrown in a croud ,it looked like he was gong to throw it no matter what.
He is playing in a city that is very unforgiving with the kindof media they have....Personaly I think he is done...he is a young kid that just cannot rise to the top when there is pressure.

I am a Bears fan ,they must have a offence to move the ball and take the pressure off the Defence ..Just a little advice here Take a bunch of money down to Vegas put it on the AFC to win the super bowl , now that it is still early and I promise you you will come back a a winner after the super bowl..take a look for a sec at the NFC teams....New England, Indinapolis, Pittsburg, SanDiego, Cinncinatti, Tennessee , Jacksonville are Just some and the best team. last year in the NFC was Da-Bears. Right now Dallas ,Greenbay, Seattle, Tampa bay are the best in the NFC .

jokester · 09-26-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FireCat

Personaly I agree with many of the so-called experts Greise is just a band aid .

He might be a band aid for this season...or even maybe next, till the Bears can pick up a QB. However, i'd rather try a band aid and see if it works, than bleed to death!!

-jokester

Backlash2 · 09-26-2007, 10:43 AM

Horrible mechanics, bad decisions = bench, or the beginning of a HS coaching career.

Gross Man throws off of his back foot even with no one in his face. He has below average arm strength. He constantly throws passes he shouldn't. He's done...and should have been by week 12 last year.

Does anyone remember the Superbowl last year when he tried to call a timeout...before they ran a play after the last time out??? He ADMITTED last year that he doesn't always work hard to prepare himself before the game.

Griese isn't the answer, but he's an improvement.