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Old 02-09-2004, 05:13 PM   #1
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Ok....took me a year of lurking and asking questions to find out how to catch sturgeon. Gathered lots of info that made us successful last weekend.

I was kind of hoping that all of you experts out there would be so kind as to post pictures and very detailed instructions on rigs, baits, techniques, spots (like waypoints, land mark photos, take me to you favorite hole, etc ) to considerably lessen the steep learning curve for me as I'm getting old and don't have more than 25-30 years to figure it all out. [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Also, any experienced (or not) Ifisher that wants a ride, I generally am fishing on Thursday or Friday. THAT MEANS YOU WOOTERSON, I OWE YOU ONE
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:32 PM   #2
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Wannacatchem,

I responded to a different springer question post a couple of weeks ago. The information below fits your question as well. Somewhere on file I have pictures of some rigging techniques and I'll post them for you once I find them. As far as the steep learning curve, I have been fishing Springers for 25+ years and the learning curve has never stopped. Still seem to learn a little more every year. I'm a Willamette troller and one of the biggest learning curves happened a few years back when they started spilling the dams to flush smolt and we lost Willamette river current due to the river backing up. It was like starting all over on a new river but we have adapted.

Heres a start that will get you going in the right direction.

Pearls Rules for Effective Salmon Fishing and Trolling......

Prepare your tackle and boat before going on the water. Rods should be rigged with mooching rigs, plug clips and other lures attached and ready. Be ready to fish when you hit the water. I see to many people still tying tackle to rods and reels 45 minutes into the morning in the mean time salmon are being landed. Boat batteries should be fully charged and, if possible, gas the boat the day before. Keep the inside of your boat organized. Bad things happen when you go to net a fish and the net gets hung up on a bunch of junk lying around the inside of your boat. You work to hard to hook em so don't screw up on something that you have control of.

Pay close attention to the tides. Contrary to what you might think, tides affect the river up to the Oregon City Falls on the Willamette and to Beacon Rock on the Columbia.

Fish hard during the peak times, one-hour before-through-after tide change. Don’t be tying gear, changing areas or eating lunch during peak time. In the spring, early in the morning or late in the evening are often productive times.

Use all the information you can get. There is a lot of information on ifish. Separate the good from the bad by trial and error. STS and Luhr Jensen tech sheets provide good info as well. Watch what other fisherman are having success with that day.

Locate fish with a quality fish finder. Just because your fishing a 15’ shelf it doesn’t mean that fish will be on the bottom. They could be coming through at 8’ depending on water temp, clarity, tide etc.

Troll with or across the tide flow, never against it. Salmon face into the tide flow and have a better look at your lure as its coming towards them.

Stay in the area you catch fish or see fish caught.

Don’t fish only where there are other fishermen (i.e. famous hot spots). Salmon are on the move and hot spots can change daily. Its better to fish by yourself for ten salmon in an eddy or on a shelf, than to fish for two hundred salmon along with 4,000 other anglers.


Explore but learn to fish three areas extremely well then expand your areas by one new area per year.


Use bait / lure that has sight, sound and smell. Use any color, as long as it is green. Use flashers or rattle plugs to create sound. Add scent to your lure, such as Smelly Jelly or other products.

USE COLORS! The top thirty feet of water. Flashers, spinner blades, plugs, etc. have color. Below fifty feet try blue, green, purple and glow lures..


When using bait check your bait every 15 minutes. Remember, you only have three hours of premium fishing time. If using lures, be aware of any change in rod tip action and check lure every thirty minutes or if youve bumped the bottom.

Sharpen your hooks and keep them sharp!

Spring salmon are a challenge to catch. Keep a positive outlook, be able to adapt, make the most of your time on the water and put your hours in.

Good Luck!!!
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:43 PM   #3
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pearl is a fish catching machine.....

Dave Johnson is giving a seminar at fisherman marine on 2-24 delta park and 2-26 oregon city check it out.

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Old 02-09-2004, 05:48 PM   #4
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Copy down Pearl's list of do's and don't for a very good start, they're good.

Confidence, detail, persistance and skill will put 'em in the boat.
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Old 02-09-2004, 05:55 PM   #5
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pearl....

husker...thanks for the info on the seminar, but I hae to work that day and OC is too far away.

This is what I am talking about, freely given advice. Now....what is a mooching rig? What is a plug clip and besides Kwikies, what other lures should I be spending hard earned dollars on? Sure wish the was a jargon dictionary on this site.......and what about those favorite spots, landmark photo's and waypoints :smile:
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:00 PM   #6
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I forgot the most important tip of all.

LEMON JOY

Keep a small bucket with river water and lemon joy in the boat. Keep those hands and lures from stinking !!!
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:06 PM   #7
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I am in St Helens very close to you shoot me an email or pm and we can hook up and i will show you in person what i know.I might be going out later this week. I am no expert but i do catch fish.
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:17 PM   #8
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:26 PM   #9
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Depends on where your fishing and what technique, but I would definitely invest in some spinners. The last couple years I put spinners out when the kwikies were slow and the springers gobbled em up. I've caught fish on spinners while anchored and while trolling. Try red and white blades to start, and pretty much anything that looks fishy after that.
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Old 02-09-2004, 07:12 PM   #10
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Pearl, you sure got my attention. Please post your photos of rigging procedures. Thanks for the "pearls".
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Troll with or across the tide flow, never against it. Salmon face into the tide flow and have a better look at your lure as its coming towards them.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I need some help understanding this tip. I only have about an hour of trolling under my belt so please forgive my ignorance. If the tide is going out I want to be trolling down river? This seems opposite to anchor fishing. Likewise if the tide is coming in I should be trolling up river? Before seeing this I thought that you would want to troll up river in all tides. I was thinking that the fish are moving toward home no matter what the tide is doing. Do Salmon change direction with the tide?
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Shaker-King I troll with the current 90% of the time. The bait is swiming into the fishes face, they have to react super quick... they dont want it to get away... SHBAMALAMO

You can cover a ton of water this way too. Once you are at the bottom of your troll use the big motor to run to the top and do it all over again My big trolling dad showed me this, works real well

The other 10% of the time the other method used is just hovering in the current stationairy or back trolling your bait. Back trolling when there is a lot of outgoing current works real well even in the lower stretches of the river [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:48 PM   #14
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Nickle has it right !!!

Cover the water. You go to the fish opposed to the fish coming to you.

If you think about it ....If you troll into the current you will theroetically ( sp ) sit in one spot and have to have a fish come up from behind you to take your bait. In this position the fish has an over abundance of time to examine the bait and make a decision whether those hooks and 20lb leader are natural If you are trolling down river or across the current the fish will get a shorter look at an already dead bait ( use scent ) and will have to make a instinctive decision. Fish aren't as smart as we give them credit for. Good instincts yes, brains no [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Another benefit to trolling "down hill" is the ferocious bite you will get. If you want to see a rod bend over and I mean bend over just hook one on the down hill slide. First thing you will hear when you get in my boat is " You got to let them take it...Count to 10!"

To make a point, there are alot of days I will start at Hog Island near Lake Grove on the Willamette and troll clear into the city of Portland ( Steel Bridge ) and then run back up river and do it again. You cover alot of deep water but alot of shelves where Mr. Springer rests. This is a great method for fisherman just learning the different techniques. Try 8oz, 7 to 10 pulls, 6 ft of leader and troll at a speed where you main line is at a 45 degree angle. Put the rod in the holder. When the rod tip is in the water set the hook. Most time the fish will hook themselves. Get ready for BBQ springer that night.

Another great point is to get out and do it. Pound the water. Fish come in groups. I may go a few days of hard fishing and not get a bite and then you will put fish in the box 5 days in a row.

Good luck and tight lines!

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Real nice Pearl

Hopefully you Springer virgins are taking some good notes [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:05 PM   #16
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Run your rods at different depths to start with. Say 7, 10, 13 pulls, etc. depending on water quality. Go with good quality herring plug-cut and whole. I went with a guide and we limited the boat this way. Could have been luck, but I have been asking around and it seems to be what alot of the 'old-timers' and guides do on the Willamette. Put your time in, but know when the water is generally unfishable as to not just waste your time. Don't forget the camera!
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With record runs of springers coming this year there should be enough for everybody!!!

Let's go get em!!!!!!!

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Thanks Nickel & Pearl.

I was thinking that the boat going overhead would scare them away or the chance of running into the lead line on an out going tide. But, not much scares me away from dinner when I am hungry. :blush:

So my notes are:
Troll with the tide, cover a lot of water, race back do it again, 7-10 pulls, mainline 45 degrees, BBQ full of propane.
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Great advice guys!
Do you guys find the weather has any impact on the bite??? Low pressure vs. high pressure kinda thing?
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Weather does have an impact. Every spring the days are filled with sun, rain , wind , snow, sleet etc. Sometimes you get them all with in one hour. I do see bites turn on, on the front and back side of small weather systems passing through. Most often I will get bit on the back side of a weather system when the high preasure is building.

The weather is one of those things that we can't control. Boat and lure/bait preperation we can. If the weekend comes and the forcast is for storms you can't do anything about it. Just load up the boat and go.

You have to have a line in the water to catch them.
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Old 02-10-2004, 06:35 AM   #21
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Thanks for your pearls of wisdom Pearl! I love your quote at the bottom of your messages.

Wannacatchem,

One suggestion that I can throw in is to bring along (or buy) a pair of binoculars when you hit the water. Watch and take not of what the successful fisherman are doing. Leader and dropper length, lure color, location and depth of the water they are fishing, scent being used, etc.
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When I first started. Anchoring and fishing Kwikfish on the outgoing in the Columbia was easier for me. (Now I've dated my experience since it's only been open for 3 ro 4 years).

Catching a Chinook by trolling anywhere upstream of the Astoria Bridge is still an 'urban legend' to me.
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Speaking of seminars,I just read in Bob's add that came out today in the Longview news,they will be having two spring chinook clinics in early march,the first is on tues.3/2 6:00-8:00pm hosted by Jack Glass and then on thurs.3/11 from 7:00 - 8:30pm Buzz Ramsey will be doing another.

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Roll of death ????
Can someone explain what that is. Just some details like: the diameter of the roll, how many time per minute it should spinn, and hook config.
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Once again.....whats a mooching rig, or I should say, what is mooching and how do you do it. I have seen "mooching rigs" at GI Joes, but they just look like two hooks on some leader. No indication on the package on how they are used.

As I stated in my original post, pics and very detailed instructions are good, as are waypoints, landmark photo's and taking me to you favorite spot for some serious lesson learnin
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I saw today that Fisherman's Marine & Outdoor will be having several spring chinook seminars in the coming months. This will certainly get you started in the right direction. You'll see in person how they rig things up...
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Once again.....whats a mooching rig, or I should say, what is mooching and how do you do it. I have seen "mooching rigs" at GI Joes, but they just look like two hooks on some leader. No indication on the package on how they are used.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I'll tell you my understanding of "mooching". If it's wrong, I'm sure someone will help out.
The mooching rig is used with whole baitfish, such as herring, anchovies, or sardines. It is connected to a banana sinker, and then that is connected to your mainline. Mooching is usually done in the ocean. You let it out the desired depth or pulls, and drift with the current. This technique can be very effective for Coho. I'm not sure if it can be fished deep enough for Kings. Hopefully, someone else will help here. I would bet people add action to the bait with a modified jigging motion. I hope this helps.
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Good information folks. Wannacatchem, you need to hook up with some folks that can teach ya a little springer tech. I did this with David Johnson and learned a great deal from him. Learned alot from Fishin Mission even this last year on trolling the Willy. Had a lot of success because of his advise.

I can't WAIT for springers.

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Oh yeah...turns...turns are a good thing when you're trolling.

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As promised I said I would try to add a couple of simple trolling set ups. Keep in mind that what I have pictured here is not the only way to rig bait. These are just a couple of simple demonstrations that have worked for me in the past.

I'm obviously not a photgrapher but I hope they serve thier purpose.


1) Prawn - I like to use home cured prawns with a 3 hook mooching set up. Your bottom hook is left free and is used as a "stinger". Middle hook is placed in the head and the shaft follows to body toward the tail. Your upper hook is place in the tail and the shaft of that hook lays down along the tail. I use small rubber bands like the ones used on your kids braces to hold the hook shafts next to the body. Above the tail run a number of small beads and a blade with your color of choice. You can us a innerchangable clevis to switch blades quickly. My prawn spins when pulled through the water. Some like them straight with no spin.


2) Cut plug herring - Pictured here is a green lable herring. Cut plug the herring in a double angle cut. Buy a store bought herring cutter to achieve this. Again I use a 3 hook solid tie mooching rig. The bottom 2 hooks go through the ventricle line on the short side of the herring. Place the hook as far in the cavity as you can with out tearing the bait. I let these two hooks lay free. The upper hook is placed on the long side of the cut herring. You can place this hook anywhere from 9 oclock to 12 oclock using the clock analogy. Different hook placement will give you different rolls. When properly placed this will give you the "ROLL OF DEATH".



3) Spinners - these are a couple of examples that I would use early in the year. They can be made at home and are inexspensive to bulid your self.



Hope these pictures help those of you that had questions.

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Pearl!

WOW!

I know a lot of people really appreciate your posts! Good job! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

[img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img] Three-hook mooching rigs. Nice touch!

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I'm speechless pearl. Keep it coming buddy, I'm soaking this stuff up like a sponge
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Ive also caught tons trolling against the current, slowly and a little side to side. Just get a good slow roll on the herring or whatever u use.
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Wow...Pearl...ya got some good pointers there. Trolling downhill enables one to cover lots of water, but isn't necessary if the conditions are right. I'll often troll downstrem, but we hook tons of fish trolling upstream too. Just have to make sure you're not hovering in one spot.

Shallow eddies are deadly in higher dirty water.

Didn't see this one mentioned, either...The clearer the water..the longer the leader.

Small blades above bait are deadly too.

Knowing how to properly set up your bait for a good roll is beneficial(Dance 'O Death) What kind and size of baits, and what water temps to use them.

What size hooks to use. If you're hooking, but losing alot of fish...your hooks might be too small. 5 and 6/0's(sharpened needle sharp) work with great success.

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Dang, pearl.....

Now if I could only get in your boat with a video camera..... :grin:

Thanks for the extremely helpful pictures. Do you use stretchy thread on the herring, or does that kill the spin? Can you describe what goes between the rig and the swivel? leader length, weight, etc. Do you use those anchoring, or just trolling. If only trolling, what do you use anchored up?

Thanks guys....ya'll can keep adding to this thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one thats going to print it off when is slows down

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I'll throw in my 5cents. :smile: I really don't know anything about the Columbia springers,as they have elluded me,but I have a rule that I use in the Willamete.If I am trolling in 35 ft or less of water,I am on the bottom or very close to it.Over that, I will troll like 12 to 16 pulls depending on what I feel like.I will try 8 to 10 on occasion.If there are inexperienced fishers with me,(or lazy ones)I will just let them troll with 12 to 16 pulls and I will work the bottom.I have caught fish at suspended depths, but I have caught way more on the bottom or within a couple feet off.I like to troll in places that are fairly consistent in depth.When my arm gets tired of banging the bottom,or I want to be lazy,I will put out said pulls.Bait-prawns on a mooching rig,very much like Pearls rig.Used 90 percent of the time in my boat.Seems like a lot of guys fish herring but I have done good on the Prawns.Plug cut herring 10 percent.Oh, one more tip,don't use sliding mooching rigs.I have lost fish because of the slider.I tie the hooks short for prawns so you can get the roll I am looking for.Too short or too long,they won't work for me.
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:36 AM   #42
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Great pics and descriptions there Pearl, thankyou for sharing those - very generous of you!

Lot's of good stuff is already covered, but since the last post mentioned depths to fish at...it's our experience in fishing the Multnomah Channel that later in the season especially in May, as the water warms you can hit suspended fish that are running at shallower depths - particularly when the sun is off the water - like 6' to 8'. I've had a couple that looked like topwater dry-fly takes :shocked: - now that's excitement :grin: .
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:04 PM   #43
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:54 AM   #44
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:09 PM   #45
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I was wondering does backbouncing work on the willamet springers??
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:17 PM   #46
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Sand shrimp and/or prawns on a diver. If I have an open spot on my boat, I will post here on Ifish. jf99
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Old 11-07-2004, 06:26 PM   #47
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Wow ! Been almost a year since I have seen this post. Just read it top to bottom and it has me thinking about some things I hadn't thought about before. A little review is good !

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I was wondering does backbouncing work on the willamet springers??


We used to do alot of back bouncing on the Willamette and there still are opportunities but it isn't like it used to be.

My opinion is that ever since they started spiling Boniville ( not a bad thing ) to flush the smolts it has backed the Willamette up and decreased the flow and raised water temps. There is still some back bouncing opps in the Ore Ciry area but not as many as there used to be.

I learned my springer fishing as a youngster under the the Sellwood Bridge and it was not uncommon to see 50 to 100 fish days. With lack of water flow the fish don't seem to hold on the shelf like they used to. You can still get em but not in the numbers that were common place in the 70's and early 80's.

Fish are still in the river, just need to alter the presentation a bit.
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Sounded like a good time of year to resurrect this post.......

Anybody want to add anything?
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Wow ! Vintage ifish from 2004.

Remember the good old days ? 2004 was a killer year on the Willamette. Put our last fish in the box on July 4th.
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I wondered if you would remember this, Pearl. Offer for a trip with you (now 4 years old) still good?
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Ton of info in here for the new guy....and the old......
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Ton of info in here for the new guy....and the old......
Springer Fishin In The Willy,

I use a 10-40 10'6'' loomis great rod to use for trolling herring for springers, and fallies in the bays. I have abu 5500's on both, with 65lb braid. I then slide a swivel up the line and tie onto that about an 18-20 inch dropper with a weight clip at the end below this I put a bead and then tie on another swivel. From the swivel you tied on I make about a 2 foot bumper of 40lb ultragreen, to a chain bead swivel with a surenge over the top of it ( keeps weeds off the swivel ) from here a tie about a full arm span length of 25lb leader with 2 5/0 hooks rigged with a herring setup. cut plug blue label usually gets the job done. Now I usually drop it down to the bottom and reel it 6 cranks ( depending on current and depth ) and then put it in the rod holder, and then every hour or so start reeling one more crank up each re bait or bait check. Another thought some people like to bounce the herring while trolling, maybe it gives more action to the herring, if you try this make sure you dont instinctivly just set the hook when you feel the bite, you dont even really need to set the hooks on these fish, you let them set it themselves, wait till line is peeling off the reel and then the fight is on!

Sorry It's a mouthfull, but I try to break things down.
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Springer Fishin In The Willy,

I use a 10-40 10'6'' loomis great rod to use for trolling herring for springers, and fallies in the bays. I have abu 5500's on both, with 65lb braid. I then slide a swivel up the line and tie onto that about an 18-20 inch dropper with a weight clip at the end below this I put a bead and then tie on another swivel. From the swivel you tied on I make about a 2 foot bumper of 40lb ultragreen, to a chain bead swivel with a surenge over the top of it ( keeps weeds off the swivel ) from here a tie about a full arm span length of 25lb leader with 2 5/0 hooks rigged with a herring setup. cut plug blue label usually gets the job done. Now I usually drop it down to the bottom and reel it 6 cranks ( depending on current and depth ) and then put it in the rod holder, and then every hour or so start reeling one more crank up each re bait or bait check. Another thought some people like to bounce the herring while trolling, maybe it gives more action to the herring, if you try this make sure you dont instinctivly just set the hook when you feel the bite, you dont even really need to set the hooks on these fish, you let them set it themselves, wait till line is peeling off the reel and then the fight is on!

Sorry It's a mouthfull, but I try to break things down.
Forgot to add around the mouth of the channel is where i mostly fish, and we use between 8-12 ounces of lead usually.
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the photos in Pearl's post have X's in them ..
anyway to see them again ???
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To all that have asked what a mooching rig is, or what os between your hooks and swivel- please do yourself a favor and go see the free seminars..it will speed up your learning curve. To the guy that said Oregon city was too far away to see the seminar- what if the info u learned there would double or even triple your catche? Very possible especially for beginners.

Or you can leArn the hard way and without fish. This.thread Is very helpful and educational but reading the posts there seems to be a lot that people cant visualize or understand completely.

Another option is booking a guide. Which is far from free if you decide to go that route.

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Old 02-19-2011, 04:44 PM   #58
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What are you looking for in an anchor spot? a shelf or drop off with fast flow? Do you want to anchor in front of, on top of, or behind the shelf? Also how do you calculate the tide shift for the willamette around OC? And do you want to put your plugs or spinners, when anchored, near the bottom or mid depth?

Lots of questions for the noob who has never caught a springer!
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What are you looking for in an anchor spot? a shelf or drop off with fast flow? Do you want to anchor in front of, on top of, or behind the shelf? Also how do you calculate the tide shift for the willamette around OC? And do you want to put your plugs or spinners, when anchored, near the bottom or mid depth?

Lots of questions for the noob who has never caught a springer!

I like a downhill slope with my bait/lure sitting at the top of the hill so when mr/mrs springer comes swimming up the hill/slope my lure is in thier face.
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thanks hawgline! Any way you could help me with depth im looking for and how to figure out the tides? or is there just enough current all the time at OC?
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