Why is it so hard for people to do their jobs

toas243 · 09-04-2007, 07:49 PM

I just don`t get it ,if you don`t want to do your job then quit or get another one ,Here`s my 2 senerios 1. I`am driving from eastern Oregon last week about 4:30 pm I see a guy using a cutting toarch to cut up some steel beams ,he is about 1000 yards from forest boundry ( the location was 3 miles east of ochoco lake ) ,so I the good sameritain (sp?) stop by the prineville USFD ,first I went to the BLM place the lady tells me Oh that is for the forestry dept. Ok ,so I go there ,and the lady there tells me oh this is for the prineville city fire dept. now I need to go into town and find the fire dept.

,by this time I`am a little annoyed so much I was about to just go on my merry way ( I did not I have a consience )well I get at the fire dept the Chief was super nice Matt is his name ,he asks me to show him on the map the location of the work ,then he tells me it out of his district but ,he knows who runs that one and calls about the activity ,my question is why did the lazy ladies working for the Government could not just call the other department instead of making me do their job ???????????????????????? Senario 2. place Oregon City there is a soccer field on Highschool Ave ,there is parking around the corner ,but a ton of people deside to park half way in the street ,and I do mean half way ,so I call dispatch (not 911) and let them know the road is blocked ( it is a very narrow street ) ,cause I nearly got hit twice today ,so they officer calls me and tells me to his oppinion ,it is ok ,the people are parked in taking more than half of the lane ,I nearly drive this road every day to my kid`s house ,why can`t the cops do their job ,ifyou are parked in the street next to a school youshould get a ticket ,I can`t stand it when people don`t put any effort in their job

Old Coot · 09-04-2007, 08:16 PM

Just out of curiosity, why do you feel it was the ladies' job to take on your project?

If the BLM lady called the USFS, could she answer any detailed questions the other person might ask? Could she have answered all of who, what, when and exactly where? Did she see what they were driving, the color of their rig, height, how they were dressed, exactly what they were doing and where they were doing it? You had the details in YOUR head.

I guess I'm missing the part about why they were lazy. If it isn't within their jurisdiction what do you expect them to do?

24 on/ 48 off · 09-04-2007, 08:49 PM

I told the pizza delivery guy that the plumber who was here last week left behind a pipe wrench.

He didn't care.

(That was tongue-in-cheek).

I have to agree with Old Coot. It's always better to find the 'guy in charge' and speak directly to him/her, rather than try to get somebody who has no connection to do the talking for me. This was of course, in response to your first scenario)

--spud--

Smoked Salmon · 09-04-2007, 11:46 PM

So, if I find a wallet and want to return it to it's owner, I shouldn't just hand it to some stranger and ask him to do it for me?

INSAYN · 09-05-2007, 04:22 AM

I see his point clearly. The two ladies had in their mind who's area of influence it was and just sent him on, instead of making a conceded effort like the fire Chief did. Pick up the phone, or help him contact this other department, instead of just sending him on a wild goose chase.

The Chief could have also blown him off, but took the extra step to help the "Good Samaritan" that is taking it upon himself to try to help the community. It goes full circle.

I too find that some folks don't make any attempt to do their jobs. My recent experience was when a neighboring family moved out of a rental house, and left a dozen kittens to fend for themselves as they took the momma with them. I contacted the Washington County Bonnie L. Hays Small Animal Shelter as they have on their website.

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Cruelty, neglect and abandonment
It is unlawful to commit acts of cruelty and neglect to animals. This includes abuse; neglect; abandonment; deprivation of food, drink, or adequate and humane shelter; or confinement in a motor vehicle under conditions that endanger the health or well-being of the animal. We actively investigate reports of these conditions.

I ask the person on the line what to expect, after I report to them the scenerio. The cats were left for dead, and the house was a wreck. She pretty much said that I can bring the cats in. I told her that is fine, but only after I know that they are going to "actively investigate" the report. She asked me what I was referring to. I pointed out the mission statement on their own webpage, as well as the above quote found under the Laws to Know link on the upper left of the main page. She said there was nothing they could do.

So, I called the police and wasted their time with the matter. In the end, the policeman that responded asked me why I did not call the shelter, as it was their duty to take on such matters. I told him I did, and that I was pretty much blown off. He had them come out and capture the kittens and take them to the shelter and that he would begin the investigation himself. He too, thought the lady was out of line and probably didn't want to start the paper work needed.

Gus Orviston · 09-05-2007, 05:00 AM

4.5% unemployment is your answer.

Chug · 09-05-2007, 05:10 AM

That is why, nobody stops to help. Or want to Report things, too much & lost Time ( money)/ problems..

INSAYN · 09-05-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gus Orviston

4.5% unemployment is your answer.

How's that?

jimh · 09-05-2007, 05:41 AM

I guess the difference is some of us think that people who work for us should really work for us.

That is, if you are a government employee, it is part of your job to provide a public service. The vast majority of government employees work hard and do what needs to be done just like the rest of us, but others like a couple of examples in the first message in this thread, don't. Of course, the same could be said for other service employees except of course, we don't go back to buisinesses that provide poor customer service if they have any competition.

Given a choice between a random citizen and the fire dept, I think the fire dept should track down the right person instead of the random citizen. That is what happened by the one chief, of course! As far as the policeman is concerned, that's bogus too. The same person probably woudn't have an issue giving a ticket for some other equivalent offense if would be convenient for him.

Jooky · 09-05-2007, 02:05 PM

I called on the truck that keeps parking on SE foster and around 76th blocking east bound traffic in the right lane.. I called the non emergency number and was transfered over to the parking unit.. Nice lady wrote down all the info.. but truck is still there.. I can see the signs its parked right next to.. no parking from 9-5 and its 3pm... it been a month now.

wsuweston · 09-05-2007, 02:09 PM

Everyone is too busy on Ifish

fishkisser · 09-05-2007, 06:09 PM

Most people are just lazy...

Gus Orviston · 09-05-2007, 06:48 PM

4.5%... because when unemployment figures get so low there is no more competition for jobs - therefore underperforming , bad customer service, not caring, all go by without concerns becuase getting people to fill those spots is harder at 4.5% than it is at 5.5%.

toas243 · 09-05-2007, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Coot

Just out of curiosity, why do you feel it was the ladies' job to take on your project?

If the BLM lady called the USFS, could she answer any detailed questions the other person might ask? Could she have answered all of who, what, when and exactly where? Did she see what they were driving, the color of their rig, height, how they were dressed, exactly what they were doing and where they were doing it? You had the details in YOUR head.

I guess I'm missing the part about why they were lazy. If it isn't within their jurisdiction what do you expect them to do?

I love it ,I was in their office the guy cutting steel with cutting torch ,after 1PM ,and there was a high fire danger and the wind was blowing ,and the job for people who work are to pass the info not sit or send the good samertian on a chase to do their job to protect the forests

toas243 · 09-05-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimh

I guess the difference is some of us think that people who work for us should really work for us.

That is, if you are a government employee, it is part of your job to provide a public service. The vast majority of government employees work hard and do what needs to be done just like the rest of us, but others like a couple of examples in the first message in this thread, don't. Of course, the same could be said for other service employees except of course, we don't go back to buisinesses that provide poor customer service if they have any competition.

Given a choice between a random citizen and the fire dept, I think the fire dept should track down the right person instead of the random citizen. That is what happened by the one chief, of course! As far as the policeman is concerned, that's bogus too. The same person probably woudn't have an issue giving a ticket for some other equivalent offense if would be convenient for him.

I have had several dissaponitments with Government slackers a.k.a employees like the 4 biologists who would not give me info in an area which I had a tag to the said Oh we don`t have any Idea where the Elk live

OMG ,Oh yes I really thanked the Fire Chief for his good job ,and when you work in a public service you are there to help and do you job not sit on your butt and pass the buck

Rank Amateur · 09-05-2007, 10:53 PM

I can see it now, "Help lady the forest is on fire" "Where?" "Trout creek" "Oh, that's not our area, go down the street to the BLM" Vrrrooom off to the BLM. "Help lady the forest is on fire" "Where?" "Trout Creek." "Oh, that's not our area, go down the street to the fire station." Vrrrooom off to the fire station. "Help mister, the forest is on fire." "Where?" "Trout creek." "Oh, that's not our area, go to USFS." "I have already been there!!!!" "Oh well, can't help you."

Later in the news that day. "A 50,000 acre fire has been spotted by the USFS and evacution of three cities is under way."

Wasn't the big fire in California started with guys cutting water pipe? Aren't they now facing felony charges along with the ranch???

When the fire boards are posted extreme, don't you think somebody should get a little excited? People who man the info desks should be trained to handle these exact situations, surely they could have picked up the phone and called the correct agency and then handed the phone over to the reporter!

Clyde · 09-07-2007, 07:00 PM

It's really hard to give a crap these days. I have often run into situations where I try to do the right thing and basically get blown off. Problems don't seem to be problems unless it's in their lap and keeping them from going home...and this, unfortunately, isn't just government related.

At least you were true to yourself and that's all anyone can do anymore.