mountian lion or coyote

NWJet · 09-03-2007, 09:13 AM

does any body know how to distinguish between a mountian lion kill or coyote kill... i found a dead dear carcas in back of my riding arena this am.... ikinda a woody area. living towards silvercreek falls i know that they are around. we have seen them before. but this dead dear bowls removed and up above chest is eaten ... and half burried..
any thoughts.

motcha · 09-03-2007, 09:21 AM

I would say cougar or bear. Did you see any tracks?

NWJet · 09-03-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by motcha

I would say cougar or bear. Did you see any tracks?

no there were no visible tracks, it has waist high grass along the back of the arena and a row of fir trees about ten feet apart and 30 to 45 feet tall. there is how ever a distinct trail going thru the grass and works its way up the tree line approx 150 feet to the neighbors property.

micah · 09-03-2007, 09:28 AM

It sounds like a cat, I know that they bury their kill. Usually if you find an animal partially buried a cats working the area. I dont know if bears do that, I've only heard about cougars doing it. Looks for tracks around it and that would tell you what it is.

Chug · 09-03-2007, 09:39 AM

Is the site covered up like a house cat covers his scat?. leaves, brush.. etc.

Coyote will not bury the kill.

You have a Trail cam?, Or know someone that does. Good spot to hang one..

look for tracks, in area. Find soft dirt, creeks, trails etc.

sounds like cougar.

Idahoan · 09-03-2007, 11:11 AM

Sounds like a mountain lion. Was it a full grown deer or a fawn?

NWJet · 09-03-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Idahoan

Sounds like a mountain lion. Was it a full grown deer or a fawn?

could not see any spots but i do not hunt so i am unsure looked like a medium??? ha ha

Myles · 09-03-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NWJet

does any body know how to distinguish between a mountian lion kill or coyote kill... i found a dead dear carcas in back of my riding arena this am.... ikinda a woody area. living towards silvercreek falls i know that they are around. we have seen them before. but this dead dear bowls removed and up above chest is eaten ... and half burried..
any thoughts.

Sounds like a cougar, if you have a tag and some patience you should set up somewhere in view with a rifle and wait. If you need a volenteer then PM me.

Myles

SLEDDER · 09-03-2007, 02:52 PM

Cougar will eat the organs with the highest blood content. Liver, heart ect. Then it will eat the rest in the next few days. Sit about 75-100 yds. downwind of buried carcass. Make sure your rifle is sighted in and have patience.

Idahoan · 09-03-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NWJet

could not see any spots but i do not hunt so i am unsure looked like a medium??? ha ha

definetly a mountain lion.

Salmo trutta · 09-03-2007, 08:25 PM

No...No...No ..could be a grizzly bbear,,,,yep probably a griz!!!

Who gives a rip?? something is eating good. Get over it!

toas243 · 09-03-2007, 08:33 PM

Great ,it was chupacuraba (SP?) ,don`t you know that

,probably a cougar ,yotes will haul every thing away ,chew toys

BlacktailBowhunter · 09-03-2007, 10:14 PM

I would guess cougar. There has been a cat sighted several times at Black Forest Archery 3-D just of Drift Creek Road. Keep an eye on your horses.

BlacktailBowhunter · 09-03-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Salmo trutta

No...No...No ..could be a grizzly bbear,,,,yep probably a griz!!!

Who gives a rip?? something is eating good. Get over it!

It sounds like this gentleman has horses Salmo, and I believe he has a legitimate concern, and his question is legit as well.

You never have anything positive to ad to any post, just a sour, negative attitude toward everyone who mentions anything about a cougar or wolf.

Chug · 09-04-2007, 01:44 AM

IF your not a hunter & wish for that cougar to be shot & Removed from area. You have Many Cougar hunters, on IFISH that will be more then happy to Kill it for you. With legal means, either bow, Or rifle.

The way it's buired the Deer. It will return to feed, you now have a good bait pile for cougar. Tis will be one of the best spots to kill a Problem Cougar.

Keep & eye on the horses, they will be spooky & act weird. When the cat is in area. IF you have kids, Give them a heads up on what to do & NOT to do with a cougars.
Keep a Shooter handy. YOU WILL SEE THIS CAT AGAIN!!!... Go buy a Cougar Tag & hunting lic. NOW.

Chug · 09-04-2007, 01:48 AM

This is a good info from ODFW on Puma's.

linky: http://www.dfw.state.or.us/wildlife/...th-cougars.asp

s20055 · 09-04-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NWJet

does any body know how to distinguish between a mountian lion kill or coyote kill... i found a dead dear carcas in back of my riding arena this am.... ikinda a woody area. living towards silvercreek falls i know that they are around. we have seen them before. but this dead dear bowls removed and up above chest is eaten ... and half burried..
any thoughts.

If it was half buried, it's a cougar.

gottafish · 09-04-2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by s20055

If it was half buried, it's a cougar.

Or a bear

NWJet · 09-04-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gottafish

Or a bear

problem solved

Espy77 · 09-04-2007, 11:50 AM

Problem solved??? how, I'm sure we would all like to know

RODACTION · 09-04-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NWJet

problem solved

Yep, how....???? What....????

Chug · 09-04-2007, 12:00 PM

Did you shoot it?. What happened?. Photo's?. Story to go with it?.

NWJet · 09-04-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chug

Did you shoot it?. What happened?. Photo's?. Story to go with it?.

no i did not kill it a neighbor did and it was a male mountian lion 90-95 lbs.

Lefty · 09-04-2007, 12:09 PM

one less kitty !!!

CombinationLicense · 09-04-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NWJet

no i did not kill it a neighbor did and it was a male mountian lion 90-95 lbs.

Well, I guess that settles that debate....

"CL"

wdlfbio · 09-04-2007, 06:47 PM

Another way to tell is to skin the kill out. If it's chomped on all over the place, including bites tot he face, yote. If it has a couple of very obvious kill marks, then cleanly eaten on, kitty. Huge bite marks to the interior thigh (rear legs), probably wolf. Severe spinal trauma, probably bear.

If it's very fresh and a cat is eating on it, probably cat. If you walk by and get attacked by a bear, probably a bear.:smile:

Tide Change · 09-04-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wdlfbio

If it's very fresh and a cat is eating on it, probably cat. If you walk by and get attacked by a bear, probably a bear.:smile:

I'm sorry in advance, but that's darn funny right there. :grin: