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Old 08-26-2007, 06:29 AM   #1
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:40 AM   #2
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Sure makes you ask "what is wrong with people?", doesn't it.




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Old 08-26-2007, 06:45 AM   #3
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here is a cleaned up version
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:13 AM   #5
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in an area with very low mineral content, this sign has become a mineral source. salt blocks work very well in the area. place a couple blocks (the tan ones) about 500yds from a water source in the spring, build a blind or hang a tree stand and you will see animals.
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:44 AM   #6
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I have to ask, what are the minerals that are in the treated pressed wood or plywood that the signs are made of that the deer/elk would be attracted to?


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Old 08-26-2007, 08:31 AM   #7
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good question. i'm not a plywood glue chemist. maybe someone else can answer the question.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:33 AM   #8
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in an area with very low mineral content, this sign has become a mineral source. salt blocks work very well in the area. place a couple blocks (the tan ones) about 500yds from a water source in the spring, build a blind or hang a tree stand and you will see animals.

Are you saying that the animals licked the sign apart?
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a title i thought of: (current state of usfs). or (teddy would not be proud!)
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:36 AM   #10
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Are you saying that the animals licked the sign apart?
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:39 AM   #11
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Ok....I got it.

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Old 08-26-2007, 08:48 AM   #12
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Ok....I got it.

Thanks

Horses, cows or game chewed it up?

Name - "MMMMMM Sign" "Doh its wood"
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:02 AM   #13
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I'm sure there are chemicals that deer are attracted to that We don't know about.
An example of how strong an attractant can be happened about 15 years ago.
It was in southern oregon cascades and the forest service had just sprayed the gravel roads with a dark colored substance the day before archery season opened.
It was crazy. I came into the area in the afternoon and the deer would move and be back on the road in your rearview mirror. One forest service worker told Me he saw over 70 deer on the road and 20+ were bucks the night before.
It was a bloodbath by the roadhunters. I had spent the morning walking the soles of By boots off.
I asked the name of the stuff they were using and I was told it was lignon or something that sounds like that. I wish I had a few barrels of it.
I though of this because the sign on this thread was wood. I was told the stuff that they were spraying on the road was a wood derivitive and wasn't harmfull. At first I though they were spraying oil and that would be bad.
Has anyone heard of this or experienced something like it? Maybe that's what K-meerdeer is made out of.
We stayed for a week and in a week there were areas where they were digging holes in the road where they were licking it.
This isn't a made up story I was there and saw it.
On a side note I killed a 4 pt blacktail later in the week and no He wasn't in the road but about 1/4 from it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:22 AM   #14
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no horses or cows in the area, it appeared like a combination of critters, deer, elk, smaller critters. no bear sign or bullet holes. i figured they left the outside edge alone due to the attractant leaching out of the perimiter.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:05 AM   #15
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So, the outside edge isn't rusty metal? Don
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:41 AM   #16
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lig·nin /ˈlɪgnɪn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lig-nin] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.Botany. an organic substance that, with cellulose, forms the chief part of woody tissue. 2.Papermaking. impure matter found in wood pulp.
[Origin: 1815–25; lign- + -in2]


I am not sure about this but I believe it is a byproduct or the pulp mills. They use it in a product called CPES. But that product contains a mix of many solvents and would be any good.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:49 AM   #17
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the plywood plant i use to work at made sign boards for the state of texas. we had to use a special glue with salts so the critters would not eat them.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:16 PM   #18
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the outside edge is plywood, same as the part that has been consumed
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:58 PM   #19
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Are you sure it was not burnt by some kids.
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Never mind i see that the wood is not burnt.
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:09 PM   #21
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lig·nin /ˈlɪgnɪn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lig-nin] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.Botany. an organic substance that, with cellulose, forms the chief part of woody tissue. 2.Papermaking. impure matter found in wood pulp.
[Origin: 1815–25; lign- + -in2]


I am not sure about this but I believe it is a byproduct or the pulp mills. They use it in a product called CPES. But that product contains a mix of many solvents and would be any good.
Thats it!
Now if We can find out what else was in that liquid the forest service put on the roads then I quarantee you would have the best deer attractant there is. Now weather it would be good for them is another question.
Thanks for the info. This sight is great.
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:30 PM   #22
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While putting on offroad races we would often catch elk eating the course markers.. the flourescent colors i thought is what they were attracted to.. but it could have been a chemical smell.. darn funny to see a big cow with an arrow marker hanging out of her mouth as you round the corner.

In northern Idaho as well I saw several signs chewed on my last trip home.. I thought that was strange because normally it is just the 4x4 post that is rounded off.

cool post.. thanks
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:18 PM   #23
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Some more info about Lignin, Now where can I buy some to try under the tree stand. I,ve seem what it can do at attracking deer.


Lignin Sulfonate. What Is It?
Lignin sulfonate is the glue that holds three rings together. It's been used for 60 years to control dust and stabilize gravel on unpaved roads. For dust control, you can spray it on the surface. For stabilization and dust control, it's better to mix it with the top few inches of road surface. It's water soluble, environmentally friendly, easy to handle and apply, and very cost-effective.
The benefits include increased load-bearing capacity (similar to a 3-inch layer of asphalt concrete), a firmer road surface without loose gravel, dust abatement, reduced frost-heave damage, and cost-savings in both construction and maintenance. The surface will still develop potholes, and you'll need to scrape off and remix the top layer after a few months, but by all accounts, maintenance procedures can be significantly reduced.

I wonder if some of the potholes were caused by deer licking the treated road?
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