Antelope pic...Shoot or pass???

Santiam338 · 08-14-2007, 06:54 PM

Still working on whats a shooter for this weekend...Whats your take on this buck???

beaverfan · 08-14-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Santiam338

Still working on whats a shooter for this weekend...Whats your take on this buck???

in a heart beat!!!

Chug · 08-14-2007, 06:58 PM

BOOM FLOP!!!.. once it cleared the rest.

good horns..

IF i had a goat tag... will wait another 11 years.. drats...

jokester · 08-14-2007, 07:15 PM

Got a side profile? I guess it would depend on the unit I was hunting too...

I can't really tell from that view, but he looks to be about a 14-15 incher. I wouldn't fault ya

-jokester

sliverpicker · 08-14-2007, 07:19 PM

Can't tell what the mass is like, or the length of the prongs. How many days you have to hunt? If you have all week to hunt the Whitehorse, I'd pass him up.

BloodNtheboat · 08-14-2007, 07:25 PM

If you are looking for a goat to go high in the book, this is not your critter, I would take him, cause i dont care about the book, fine goat indeed, but not a booner. put some more mass on him and you are looking at a high scoring buck.

Santiam338 · 08-14-2007, 07:26 PM

I have as long as it takes...It is going to cost about 300 a day in lost wages though:frown:

This particular buck is in East Beatys...My buddy took the pic last weekend...I was thinking it was a shooter.. I need to study more...LOL

Don Becker · 08-14-2007, 07:38 PM

Beautiful animal most of us would be proud to take. Don

BleuBackKoke · 08-14-2007, 07:43 PM

BOOOM! Thats a nice buck!

Good luck! Show us some pics when its down.

pathfinder · 08-14-2007, 07:44 PM

He's a good buck , I wouldn't pass, but be careful on trying to search for a record cause you may lose your only chance at your only antelope.But i'd take him and head home with a BIG smile.....

TheRogue · 08-14-2007, 07:55 PM

Pretty antelope. I would certainly take him, even without the side view.

If you're looking for something to get your name in a book somewhere, you better pass. Looks awful light, and the diggers probably aren't very big.

TR

Art Vandeley · 08-14-2007, 07:58 PM

I agree with everyone, not one for the books, but definately a nice lope and would make a pretty mount

Santiam338 · 08-14-2007, 08:12 PM

Thanks all...Not looking for a booner...Just a good mature buck...Probably won't get to do it again and I am nervous about shooting a dink in the excitement...

LOL

toas243 · 08-14-2007, 08:17 PM

Is it dead yet

Bugle4em · 08-14-2007, 08:17 PM

Shoot

thehunt · 08-14-2007, 08:26 PM

I'd pass. Maybe towards the end of my hunt I'd shoot him, but not at the beginning. I'm jealous that you will be getting to make those decision soon!! Good luck!

Ryan Pultz · 08-14-2007, 08:28 PM

boom!! any time the horns are twice the ears it should be a goood one rp

BrianMaguire · 08-14-2007, 08:40 PM

Wed or Thursday and that is the best you have seen, Boom. Saturday morning, I don't know. Its a very nice buck and one most would be proud to take he looks to be 16ish. The ears are 6" so 2X the length he has a couple inches longer. I cheated and took the photo into photo shop and used the measure tool. I've spent the last 3 weeks measuring every antelope I can find on any ones wall. He looks like he has good mass. With a side shot showing really nice mass and prongs then maybe bang first couple of days.

wapiteaser · 08-14-2007, 10:21 PM

SHOOT. Too many things can happen out there and you may never get another chance at a buck like that. What are everyones estimates for this buck? I am going to say 16"

RoscoeP · 08-14-2007, 10:26 PM

I would pull the trigger in a second! There are bigger bucks out there, but I would be most pleased to put my tag on him.

Bill Monroe · 08-15-2007, 03:18 AM

I'd go back to camp and ask Brian.

Rauly · 08-15-2007, 06:10 AM

Just asked my 9 year old daughter if you should shoot or not. She said that you should not shoot because it has a doe behind it. Smart kid. Then I explained what you were talking about and she said "why does he have to ask that can't he see it's a nice one".

So their you got you answer from one of Oregons newest hunters.

Rauly

trouttroller · 08-15-2007, 06:42 AM

Sanatiam, If you don't shoot him chase him to me !!!! Bummer your not getting paid to hunt. I got plenty of vacation pay. Getting paid to Pronghorn, deer and elk hunt this year. Leaving tomorrow real early. Can't wait. Could be interesting weather with a cold front coming in. I'll look for you. Alan

Limbhanger · 08-15-2007, 07:12 AM

He looks pretty good at first glance because he has nice long tops, but his ears are taller than his cutters and he doesn't carry much mass. I would say 14". As long as you have waited and as hard as you hunt I think you would be disappointed if you shot him right off the bat.

BrianMaguire · 08-15-2007, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Limbhanger

He looks pretty good at first glance, but his ears are taller than his cutters .

What are the "cutters", the prongs?

BTW -Smart girl Rauly, she is right. I missed it. DOH.

coyote243 · 08-15-2007, 07:35 AM

boom!!

mmmmmmmmmm so good!!!

SuperT · 08-15-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Santiam338

Whats your take on this buck???

One word...DINNER!

Mike P. · 08-15-2007, 08:11 AM

That is not a bad buck...he looks to me to have some length, but not really much mass. I wouldn't shoot that one the first day, but you would be hard pressed to find anyone to fault you for shooting it. Now to see if I have any other goat pictures that are any nicer...

B-RUN STEELIE · 08-15-2007, 08:43 AM

Wow.. I'm right on the fence as well with that one. I would think really hard about it and probably keep hunting. He is pretty thin. But I would come back to him if I didn't see a better one.

ehunter · 08-15-2007, 08:53 AM

Personaly I would shoot him I didn't realize that Oregon was such a mecca for Trophy bucks. I think a 14 or 15 inch buck is a decent representive of a nice buck in Oregon.

oregonmuley · 08-15-2007, 09:03 AM

Santiam,
Thats a pretty buck - is he the biggest buck out there who knows. If you like the way he looks then by all means take him. If you are not seeing many bucks then again take him and be glad you got to hunt antelope.
As far as how big, I'm no expert but since I have a tag this year have been looking at every picture i can, so based on antelope ears being 6-7 inches, the tip of his ear is just above his cutter/diggers so double that he is right at maybe 14 or so maybe 14 1/2. Based on everything thats a perfect Oregon antelope. Maybe a little more mass and he would be perfect.
I wish you best of luck and also hope to share pictures after the season.
Frank

Idahoan · 08-15-2007, 10:38 AM

Shoot him! It is trophy!

Forget boone and crockett....it is getting tainted with canned hunt animals!

TheRogue · 08-15-2007, 10:52 AM

You can't see the mass. You also can't really tell the length, because sometimes they hook back so much.

My buck below, based just upon ear length comparison, would only be 13.5 or so, but when you look at how he hooks, he's 15".

You also can't tell how heavy he is looking straight on:

I knew I'd get a chance to post these pics again!

TR

thehunt · 08-15-2007, 02:01 PM

I love the buck "the rogue" shot. what a beautiful antelope with a tone of character in his horns. Great length, good mass, and SICK Cutters!! Nice buck!! thanks for sharing.

Northwest Pest · 08-15-2007, 02:36 PM

Hunting antelope my whole life in montana I would pass early in the hunt. He is a thin, high 13, low 14 inch buck.

Northwest Pest · 08-15-2007, 02:43 PM

Horns on these guys do not include the curl for height inches. 13.5 doesn't curl to 15. If it does I have a 17.8 and 16.5 inch bucks on my wall.

chromebright · 08-15-2007, 02:45 PM

If I see one on Saturday AM like that he's going down. Only going to hunt 3 days because I can't make myself give up any of my archery elk hunt. Even though the tag is tough to get(well it wasn't that tough

) antelope just don't do it for me like chasing bulls.

Two Ducks · 08-15-2007, 02:59 PM

DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER.

RoscoeP · 08-15-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rauly

Just asked my 9 year old daughter if you should shoot or not. She said that you should not shoot because it has a doe behind it. Smart kid. Then I explained what you were talking about and she said "why does he have to ask that can't he see it's a nice one".

So their you got you answer from one of Oregons newest hunters.

Rauly

Gotta love our kids. They know how to tell it like it is!

jaysea · 08-15-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Ducks

DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER.

Nice call, Howard!!

Tough call. I agree that he doesn't have much mass, but that's a pretty fine buck. I'd like to think I could hold out, but I've been (still) waiting a long time for a tag. Good luck and keep us posted.

Swamp Puppy · 08-15-2007, 04:41 PM

i would have to say that i would drop it in a second once it gave me a clear shot.

never shot one..probably will only get to shoot one in my life. if it's a decent looking buck it's going on the wall. who cares about "books".

007SPRIG · 08-15-2007, 05:02 PM

Pass. The height is ok but it looks weak in mass and length of the cutters. It would be a good last day buck. If you have plenty of time to hunt don't punch your tag to quickly. Good you're out scouting early so you'll know what's available.

BrushApe · 08-15-2007, 05:06 PM

He is not a booner but a very nice one. Without side view it is tough, good length, face really black on nose typical of older buck, rest of coloration good. Several years ago I held out and ended up with a 12.5", a dink, but the hunt was fun and exhausting. Adding picture of an 18" buck I took in 2003 that does not make book.

Mass and prongs are where the score is. The one in your picture is one I would have a hard time passing on and I have this on my wall.

thehunt · 08-15-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwest Pest

Horns on these guys do not include the curl for height inches. 13.5 doesn't curl to 15. If it does I have a 17.8 and 16.5 inch bucks on my wall.

I think the majority here are talking about the length which Boone and Crockett accept. That length includes from the base of the horn, to the tip of the horn.
Maybe you are just talking about from the lowest point (the base) to the highest point straight up (the top of the curl)?

LuckyStrike · 08-15-2007, 05:20 PM

Pest, if you look at the Oregon Record Book score sheet, you do count the curl. The measurement is taken from the outside edge of the horn where it attaches to the skull, to the tip of the horn along the outside curve of the horn.

LS

LuckyStrike · 08-15-2007, 05:37 PM

Santiam try this, it is from an earlier post.

http://www.bowsite.com/BOWSITE/featu...gingpronghorn/

I also bought a DVD called "Size is Everything" by Tony Grimmett. Grimmett is a guide in the SW who's hunters have taken many huge antelope.

His web site actually has pictures of some monsters, live and dead... The tallest antelope is 21 inches!

Hope all this helps..

Good Luck.

LS

Cougar_B8 · 08-15-2007, 08:02 PM

If I wasn't looking for a book buck and just wanted a good Antelope I would shoot him. You might be suprized It could score higher than some are guessing. I have shot a couple ot 14 to 15 inch bucks and to me this one looks to be at least that big. Mass is tough to judge for this photo. Unless I new that there were much better bucks available I would probably shooth him. Good luck and have fun, I wish I had those choices to make.

pathfinder · 08-15-2007, 08:46 PM

He's 15"-15.5" easy. I have a 14" and checking the pic he's at least taller then mine.My boy said take'm.

C-lice · 08-15-2007, 08:46 PM

I'd definitely look him over closely, one way or the other. He is enough bigger physically than the does around him that he may be an older buck, and there may be extra horn you can't see in the photo. My cousin got one that scored 76 that looked pretty marginal when he shot. The points swept straight back, and therefore didn't look very long--no 'heart shape'. This one may do that.

If this were the best one you saw after putting in a reasonable amount of time scouting, or if you are hunting a highly pressured area, or if you're just not seeing many antelope, then drop him. If he's one of the first few you saw, or it's still early in the season, or if there's not any other hunters around, I'd pass.

My personal rule of thumb is that if the prong starts above the tip of the ear, I shoot. This one is close. He doesn't appear to have lots of length or mass that would instantly make me change my mind, and I can't tell what his diggers look like. But the others antelope don't look spooked, so you probably have soe time to look him over.

Santiam338 · 08-16-2007, 04:17 AM

A lot of stuff to think about....I know one thing for sure though...I am going to have a GREAT time deciding..

Killertraylor · 08-16-2007, 09:12 AM

That's a no brainer for me, and probably 1/2 of the guys here who claim they'd wait. That's like tossing back a 40 lb. chinook to try and fill your tag weith a 50. I've got a 13.5" buck on the wall and that buck in the pic has got to be 15 inches. You do measure the curl in Oregon. That's a dandy.

Tightlip · 08-16-2007, 09:41 AM

thats a dandy wish i was an eye doctor because alot of you have bad vision

loper · 08-16-2007, 11:13 AM

I never get tired of looking at pics of speed goats. He's nice. Make a good stalk, let the herd clear the zone, and anchor him. :smile:

Limbhanger · 08-16-2007, 12:17 PM

LOL...I dont think anyone is blind, just a lot of different goals and standards, especially after waiting 10 to 12 years for an opportunity.
For someone willing to hunt daylight to dark and wear out a little boot leather they might find a better one. For the guys who do their hunting from a pick up or 4 wheeler and are back in camp by 10am it would be a nice one.

thehunt · 08-16-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tightlip

thats a dandy wish i was an eye doctor because alot of you have bad vision

And you have hunted Antelope how many times? You should remain what your ifish names suggests.

coyote243 · 08-16-2007, 12:57 PM

I know i have been greedy befor and wanted bigger when I should of taken what the woods gave me at that time. A greedy hunter is not always a good hunter. The only thing that matters is what you think and feel about this animal. I have some small animals that gave me a better hunt than most and thats what i remember when I look at my trophy.

thehunt · 08-16-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Killertraylor

That's a no brainer for me, and probably 1/2 of the guys here who claim they'd wait. That's like tossing back a 40 lb. chinook to try and fill your tag weith a 50. I've got a 13.5" buck on the wall and that buck in the pic has got to be 15 inches. You do measure the curl in Oregon. That's a dandy.

you mean a 15 pounder hoping for a 40? Okay, now that makes sense. It's not that great of a buck. He might have a little length, but the cutters are tiny and he isn't going to magically gain a bunch of mass when he turns his head. Next season, he will probably be a great buck. But the way tags are in this state, I'm sure very few people who had the tag would pass on him cause guys get their tag every 5-10 years and god forbid they not kill something!

And not to mention if your into score he wouldn't score worth a darn. Take the above mentioned things coupled with the fact that most of his length is above the cutter and you don't have much.

BUT------To each his own. If someone shot that buck and was happy with it, then Right On and more power to ya!! I'm just jealous of every tag holding guy in Oregon right now!! Good luck to all..

hawg boss · 08-16-2007, 02:53 PM

What was the question? Oh yea "what's your take on this buck?" and "not looking for a booner, just a mature buck."

Looks like a mature buck to me.

Killertraylor · 08-16-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thehunt

It's not that great of a buck.

Just think of how many big game hunters will NEVER get a shot a buck that nice in Oregon - even guys who draw a few tags over their lifetime.

You're the guy who looks at your neighbor's new Denali and says "that's not that great of an SUV, I'd have gone for the Escalade"

Like you said - if he's happy with it, that's all that matters, but based on my experience, I think you could hunt real hard all season and not find something as nice.

thehunt · 08-16-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Killertraylor

Just think of how many big game hunters will NEVER get a shot a buck that nice in Oregon - even guys who draw a few tags over their lifetime.

You're the guy who looks at your neighbor's new Denali and says "that's not that great of an SUV, I'd have gone for the Escalade"

Like you said - if he's happy with it, that's all that matters, but based on my experience, I think you could hunt real hard all season and not find something as nice.

I'm not thinking for most guys in Oregon, more along the lines of what I would do if it was my tag and looking through my scope.

And you can have the Denali, I'll take the Expedition. Short lift and 35's makes a pretty aggresive family rig!!