Mixed fishing keep... Tunas + Salmon....

yankemnbankem · 08-01-2007, 07:31 AM

Hearing and seeing reports of some of you guys fishing for Tuna and then fishing for Salmon on the way back in.......I always thought it to be that you can only fish for Tuna.........and not salmon in the same trip? Hep me!

fyshndad · 08-01-2007, 07:35 AM

You can fish for both
Where it gets tricky is if you catch salmon 1st you must use single point barbless hooks the rest of the day
If you catch tuna first you can use the double tuna hooks and then switch to barbless for salmon on the way in

bait boy · 08-01-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by yankemnbankem

Hearing and seeing reports of some of you guys fishing for Tuna and then fishing for Salmon on the way back in.......I always thought it to be that you can only fish for Tuna.........and not salmon in the same trip? Hep me!

only restrictions are on all depth halibut days and if there is a groundfish closure. There are rules pertaining to gear and number of lines and such. Salmon if you were to fish for them first would then dictate the number of rods and what type of hooks ( single point barbless one rod etc..)

lor · 08-01-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by yankemnbankem

Hearing and seeing reports of some of you guys fishing for Tuna and then fishing for Salmon on the way back in.......I always thought it to be that you can only fish for Tuna.........and not salmon in the same trip? Hep me!

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Use of more than one rod or one line when angling for any fish; except any number of rods or lines are allowed outside of three
miles from shore when angling for offshore pelagic species and only if no species other than offshore pelagic species have been

retained. Rods or lines must be closely attended.

The problem comes into to play if you violate the one rod/person rule for pelagics, which is legal. I don't think you are supposed to retain other fish. It seems if you caught your salmon or other fish first you could continue and catch tuna. To me, this is another one of those silly rules which make no sense.

Stinger · 08-01-2007, 09:00 AM

I am glad you brought this subject up. It is my understanding that if you have a salmon on board you can not have any barbed hooks on the boat. I was planning on doing some bottom fishing and then try for some salmon. So I would have debarb all my shrimp flies? How about my herring jigs? They all have barbs too. Has anyone discussed this with the fish & game?

julezilla · 08-01-2007, 09:13 AM

There was a big discussion on this about a month ago. Fish and game has said that it is ok to have barbed hooks on board as long as they are stowed. You may not, at any time during salmon fishing, or once you have taken a salmon, have any barbed hook in the water.

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Originally Posted by KellyK

I am glad you brought this subject up. It is my understanding that if you have a salmon on board you can not have any barbed hooks on the boat. I was planning on doing some bottom fishing and then try for some salmon. So I would have debarb all my shrimp flies? How about my herring jigs? They all have barbs too. Has anyone discussed this with the fish & game?

Doryfisher · 08-01-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KellyK

I am glad you brought this subject up. It is my understanding that if you have a salmon on board you can not have any barbed hooks on the boat. I was planning on doing some bottom fishing and then try for some salmon. So I would have debarb all my shrimp flies? How about my herring jigs? They all have barbs too. Has anyone discussed this with the fish & game?

I too am confused on this one as we often stop to fish bottom fish on the way in from salmon fishing?

julezilla · 08-01-2007, 09:22 AM

Here's the link to the thread on this:

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=156713&

Long about post 45 or 48 is an email from someone at ODFW that clarifies the regulation.

flyfisherwoman923 · 08-01-2007, 09:25 AM

wow...great information....still easier to put together kids christmas gifts without the directions though....hehehe

Stinger · 08-01-2007, 10:05 AM

I just talked Fish & Game and here is fax explaining what theses hook regulations mean.

olblugill · 08-01-2007, 12:48 PM

Bureaucracy run amok or perhaps better interpretation run amok. How many salmon am I going to catch on my barbed tuna clones 20 miles out running 8 mph. duh? When I'm done with the Tuna I am always too pooped to drop the Salmon gear. How many people are ticketed for going 5 mph over the speed limit? It is against the law. It may be a technical violation but is it reasonable to enforce it?

flapbreaker · 08-01-2007, 01:07 PM

I think the rule was put in because enough people must of claimed to be fishing for a different species when checked by the OSP.

rip-lightnin · 08-01-2007, 01:49 PM

Its all just a beurocratic political Fish and Game quagmire run by Chimpanzees trying to keep our brothers and sisters from fortifyting our sacred temples...Ted Nugent

yankemnbankem · 08-01-2007, 04:17 PM

Thanks for all the info............ So, if this is all correct and a guy wasnt tuckered out from Tuna fishing this coming Saturday (assuming decent conditions) he could go out, catch a few tuna, fish for a halibut (all depth open on friday) and then switch to barbless and wack some salmon just before turning in to port and die from over exertion?

flapbreaker · 08-01-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by yankemnbankem

Thanks for all the info............ So, if this is all correct and a guy wasnt tuckered out from Tuna fishing this coming Saturday (assuming decent conditions) he could go out, catch a few tuna, fish for a halibut (all depth open on friday) and then switch to barbless and wack some salmon just before turning in to port and die from over exertion?

Precisely.

bugleboy · 08-01-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by yankemnbankem

Thanks for all the info............ So, if this is all correct and a guy wasnt tuckered out from Tuna fishing this coming Saturday (assuming decent conditions) he could go out, catch a few tuna, fish for a halibut (all depth open on friday) and then switch to barbless and wack some salmon just before turning in to port and die from over exertion?

Exactly right!! You just can't have barbed hooks in the water if you have salmon on board the boat. Oh yeah, and since this is an "All Depth" weekend, no bottomfish aboard the boat if halibut are onboard! Good luck

Puffin · 08-01-2007, 06:44 PM

Just talked to enforcement. Seems that if you have any form of bait or lure on board it is absoletely illegal to also posses any type of hook or hooking device ie gaff.

Sea Jypzee · 08-01-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffin

Just talked to enforcement. Seems that if you have any form of bait or lure on board it is absoletely illegal to also posses any type of hook or hooking device ie gaff.

Huh?

Tom Kim · 08-01-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffin

Just talked to enforcement. Seems that if you have any form of bait or lure on board it is absoletely illegal to also posses any type of hook or hooking device ie gaff.

I dont understand about this gaff issue. Why cant you have gaff on board when fishing??

Far as the species are concerned, the law has to be written like black and white with no chance for interpretation. It may sound confusing if you analize too much. If salmon on board, all gears are to be in salmon regulation even when targeting other species.

So go fish for other species first then salmon after its that simple.

tom

sparkleboy · 08-01-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doryfisher

I too am confused on this one as we often stop to fish bottom fish on the way in from salmon fishing?

In this case you would be restricted to using up to two, single-point, barbless hooks for your bottom fishing. Since we mostly use jigs for bottom fishing, you'd have to pinch the barb on the jig, and if you wanted to use a shrimp fly on your line or other bait, too, you would be restricted to having only one additional lure/bait as opposed to the normal three, and that second hook would have to be a single-point barbless hook.
To avoid this mess you could just bottom fish first, then salmon fish. In that case you wouldn't have to worry about using 2 single-point, barbless hooks until you began fishing for salmon.