CBS Wolf story

[barnyard121]

On CBS about an hour ago, there was thing on the wolfs of yellowstone. did anyone one else see it?? there was alot of B.S but its the first one where they have shown the farmers thoughts. what did u think???

[BrianMaguire]

Originally Posted by barnyard121

On CBS about an hour ago, there was thing on the wolfs of yellowstone. did anyone one else see it?? there was alot of B.S but its the first one where they have shown the farmers thoughts. what did u think???

I saw it, I am not sure what the BS is you were talking about. Did you catch Katy calling the guy named Sean "Scene", its "Shawn", Katy.

[outdoor.spec.ops]

Originally Posted by BrianMaguire

I saw it, I am not sure what the BS is you were talking about. Did you catch Katy calling the guy named Sean "Scene", its "Shawn", Katy.

laugh all you want but there is a "Scene" in my office who spells his name Sean

[barnyard121]

did you go online n watch the extras they think they should not shoot them n spend time & money scaring them off

[Flying Roast Beef]

If it's the same episode I saw it started out with a rancher claiming he lost $40,000 because of the wolves taking a calf. Read it..."a" calf. Seams like a lot of "bull" to me.

[elkaholic]

Originally Posted by Flying Roast Beef

If it's the same episode I saw it started out with a rancher claiming he lost $40,000 because of the wolves taking a calf. Read it..."a" calf. Seams like a lot of "bull" to me.

The cost of wolves to livestock producers is far above the actual loss of maybe just one animal. There are management costs and loss of weight for the whole herd costs that don't reflect generally so you cannot just say 1 loss is the only cost. If you follow the reintroduction it shows at times cattle have been kept in pens and fed expensive hay (defenders paid for it)so they wouldn't go out on an allotment with denned wolves, others hire extra riders just to be a deterrent to losses, wolves can disrupt grazing by chasing which in turn is weight loss which is pounds and pounds of beef is what is sold. Lots of sleepless nights during calving deterring losses, monitoring RAG boxes, putting up fladry to exclude wolves and such.

Don't know about how he derived at $40,000 but would be interested broke down.

[freespool]

Live stock lost on public range land should be chalked up to wild things happen in wild places.
But stock killed on private land should be mitigated.

[Idahoan]

The $40,000 calf isn't really that outrageous.....the offspring that one animal can produce can quickly add up to the $40,000.

As far as the wild things can happen in wild places comment isn't fair, the public is getting a benefit of cattle grazing helping to prevent wildfires, the public also benefits from ranchers because of the free feed deer and elk get in the winter months.

[freespool]

Originally Posted by Idahoan

The $40,000 calf isn't really that outrageous.....the offspring that one animal can produce can quickly add up to the $40,000.

As far as the wild things can happen in wild places comment isn't fair, the public is getting a benefit of cattle grazing helping to prevent wildfires, the public also benefits from ranchers because of the free feed deer and elk get in the winter months.

In Oregon public range land is leased at below market value to ranchers who graze their stock until the winter comes, then they move the stock back on to private land.
Wild game must then winter over on what's left.
Not sure how it is in Idaho, but here in Oregon our range land is being taken over by juniper, which is a very heavy user of ground water.
The main reason for this infestation is fire suppression, so if you want healthy range land, then fire is essential.