Rush Compact!!!! 3pm

cosmo · 06-13-2007, 02:47 PM

A hurried compact has been put together for 3 pm today to discuss a commercial gillnet fishery to take place above the Willamette on Thursday night. This is a springer fishery.

The run size has eclipsed the 82,000 number in which available impacts bump to 2% from 1.5% and with the official run switching to "summer chinook" on Saturday, the netters want in to fish their allocation of springers completely.

The compact phone number is 360-709-4803

Pin is 530179#

Join in and speak your piece if you like.

Gun Rod Bow · 06-13-2007, 02:53 PM

Funny how they never RUSH to let sporties back in

Bill Monroe · 06-13-2007, 02:59 PM

It's not a huge deal, but they did call me just a moment ago as well...
Sounds as if a few of the netters (not many) crowded someone into a day on the water. They can't wait until Friday's compact meeting since everything turns into summer chinook.

Few netters will go up there (if they even approve it, which is not guaranteed) and few anglers are in the areas they'll net...

Not everyone in the department thought there should be a meeting.

dawhunt · 06-13-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo

A hurried compact has been put together for 3 pm today to discuss a commercial gillnet fishery to take place above the Willamette on Thursday night. This is a springer fishery.

The run size has eclipsed the 82,000 number in which available impacts bump to 2% from 1.5% and with the official run switching to "summer chinook" on Saturday, the netters want in to fish their allocation of springers completely.

The compact phone number is 360-709-4803

Pin is 530179#

Join in and speak your piece if you like.

Wonder how many summer chinook they'll take ??? their in the river now
maybe not many but their there,Iknow this for a fact.
I've seen two and know of one released !!!
Bob

Bait Bucket · 06-13-2007, 03:27 PM

Oh that's just wonderful. I plan on fishing up river on Saturday. No way the netters will kill any summer fish, right?

Bill Monroe · 06-13-2007, 04:07 PM

They may get a few, but not many netters will be able to get up there. A catch of 330 or so kept is predicted (sounds high, though).

Season set Thursday night, 9 p.m. until 5 a.m. Friday.
Upriver from 205 to Marker 85 only.

More details in "The Birdsnest"
http://blog.oregonlive.com/billmonroe/

Interesting to hear about potential Willamette problems.

Bait Bucket · 06-13-2007, 05:06 PM

I'm still suspect about their timing. It's no secret that there are some big fish in the river now. We've been releasing them for the past couple weeks above 205 with high expectation about keeping a few when the season commences this Saturday. The netters are after poundage. And I believe they planned this all along. :frown:

Save the Kings · 06-13-2007, 05:13 PM

Perception is so incredibly important, and they just do not get it! Let me guess they want to sell steelhead too!

dawhunt · 06-13-2007, 05:25 PM

We've been into springers almost everyday now and I know for a fact that there's summer chinook up here now also guess what their really after.
Wonder if they'll be checked for fin clips when they bring their fish in
this whole thing stinks !!!!

JOIN THE CCA !!!!!

Run-n-Gun · 06-13-2007, 05:48 PM

What about the incidental Summer Steelhead catch. The river is full of them right now. Or, is the mesh size so large they won't catch any,..except the big ones. THIS SUCKS. WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH!!!

duckunter · 06-13-2007, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Rod Bow

Funny how they never RUSH to let sporties back in

Makes you wonder why they let the sport fisherman above I-5? NOT!

has anyone heard the commercial on the radio about the "copper river salmon run being bigger so prices have dropped?" Hopefully they lower the price on "net caught columbia springer" to the point they can't pay for gas!

Splash · 06-13-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Monroe

Sounds as if a few of the netters (not many) crowded someone into a day on the water.

Here is the fact sheet. There is no sanctuary for this fishery.

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/OSCRP/CRM..._13_notice.pdf

The Summer Fact sheet is out now too if anyone is interested.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/crc/crc14jun07fact.pdf

Fishbulb · 06-13-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bait Bucket

And I believe they planned this all along. :frown:

Psst........I'll meet you in the bunker.

How could this commercial fishery be a sinister conspiracy if the run to the mouth just now revealed itself to allow the jump to the 2% impact rate?

Upper CR Summers you ask? Yes, they will take some. The coded wire tags will reveal this and the minimal upper CR summer Chinook harvest will be taken into consideration when the evil conspiracy begins again and the summer commercial fisheries are planned.

alwaysfishing · 06-13-2007, 07:39 PM

I don't have anything personally against any of the netters, but the nets should be banned on the Columbia. Most have real jobs like all of us, but they net too because they have the permits, most likely handed for generations. But seriously, how can they support their families on what little they get from the river, so they have other jobs. Their netting on top of what other income they have. My two cents is keep them nets out of the river below Bonnieville, the netters don't need to do it anyway. Shane

dawhunt · 06-13-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishbulb

Psst........I'll meet you in the bunker.

How could this commercial fishery be a sinister conspiracy if the run to the mouth just now revealed itself to allow the jump to the 2% impact rate?

Upper CR Summers you ask? Yes, they will take some. The coded wire tags will reveal this and the minimal upper CR summer Chinook harvest will be taken into consideration when the evil conspiracy begins again and the summer commercial fisheries are planned.

RIGHT,you bet ????
Bob

duckunter · 06-13-2007, 09:07 PM

"....Chum salmon were one of the target species taken in gill net fisheries in Oregon bays and in the lower Columbia River prior to the 1950s ...."

Do they still put nets in the bays? I know the Kilches River gets a LOT of Chum Salmon, do the commercial guys get to net there too?

Fishbulb · 06-13-2007, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Monroe

Interesting to hear about potential Willamette problems.

Indeed. The Willamette run looks to be off from the forecast. Funny how the overall recreational catch rates would have suggested the run to meet expectations.

Typically late June has a surge of springers going over the falls. It most likely won't be enough to meet the forecast but it will help.

Bill Monroe · 06-14-2007, 06:35 AM

Mesh size is 8 inch minimum, so no, it's not likely to get many steelhead.

Sandy River is a sanctuary mentioned in the motion to allow.

There was some talk about potential regulation changes on the Willamette, although most have quit fishing down this low.

Yes, D100...you told us so.

No Bail · 06-14-2007, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo

The compact phone number is 360-709-4803

Pin is 530179#

How does one find the number and PIN? I called the Oregon Fins and Feathers in Salem one time and requested the number and PIN to simply listen. They asked who I was and I told them I was a citizen that wanted to listen to the compact meeting on the phone, they told me they don't allow that. Do Oregonians need to go through Washington State to get access on the phone?

CATCH AND EAT · 06-14-2007, 08:50 AM

This whole special interest thing getting preferential treatment is just wrong. Wait your turn netters.

Ethical hunter · 06-14-2007, 09:02 AM

The run has been upgraded, this is great news! This is great news for all user groups! But, this is the best news for the fish. Yes, the run is low but better than forcast.

EH

JIMBOUY · 06-14-2007, 10:07 AM

Saw two Gillnet boats on Marine Drive on the way into work this morning.........Now I know why. thanks Bill and E.H.

slabhunter · 06-14-2007, 02:17 PM

http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/crc/crc13jun07.htm

steelheadslayer · 06-14-2007, 07:02 PM

8" min. mesh, they won't get many steelhead, they'll just get the bigger ones to take that DNA out of production.

06-13-2007, 02:47 PM	#1
cosmo Tuna! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,530	Rush Compact!!!! 3pm A hurried compact has been put together for 3 pm today to discuss a commercial gillnet fishery to take place above the Willamette on Thursday night. This is a springer fishery. The run size has eclipsed the 82,000 number in which available impacts bump to 2% from 1.5% and with the official run switching to "summer chinook" on Saturday, the netters want in to fish their allocation of springers completely. The compact phone number is 360-709-4803 Pin is 530179# Join in and speak your piece if you like. Last edited by cosmo; 06-13-2007 at 02:49 PM.

06-13-2007, 02:53 PM	#2
Gun Rod Bow King Salmon Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sherwood, OR Posts: 6,613	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm Funny how they never RUSH to let sporties back in __________________ Now Jeff wants to be like me If we shouldn't eat animals, why are they made of meat?

06-13-2007, 02:59 PM	#3
Bill Monroe King Salmon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon City Posts: 8,525	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm It's not a huge deal, but they did call me just a moment ago as well... Sounds as if a few of the netters (not many) crowded someone into a day on the water. They can't wait until Friday's compact meeting since everything turns into summer chinook. Few netters will go up there (if they even approve it, which is not guaranteed) and few anglers are in the areas they'll net... Not everyone in the department thought there should be a meeting. __________________ Bill Monroe "Yet it isn't the gold that I'm wanting So much as just finding the gold." Robert Service

06-13-2007, 03:27 PM	#5
Bait Bucket Sturgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: About 2 miles from Viola, OR and about four miles from Tillamook Posts: 3,714	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm Oh that's just wonderful. I plan on fishing up river on Saturday. No way the netters will kill any summer fish, right? __________________ The boat leaves the ramp at 0500. If you're there at 0501 and looking for me, you were late.

06-13-2007, 04:07 PM	#6
Bill Monroe King Salmon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon City Posts: 8,525	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm They may get a few, but not many netters will be able to get up there. A catch of 330 or so kept is predicted (sounds high, though). Season set Thursday night, 9 p.m. until 5 a.m. Friday. Upriver from 205 to Marker 85 only. More details in "The Birdsnest" http://blog.oregonlive.com/billmonroe/ Interesting to hear about potential Willamette problems. __________________ Bill Monroe "Yet it isn't the gold that I'm wanting So much as just finding the gold." Robert Service Last edited by Bill Monroe; 06-13-2007 at 04:17 PM.

06-13-2007, 05:06 PM	#7
Bait Bucket Sturgeon Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: About 2 miles from Viola, OR and about four miles from Tillamook Posts: 3,714	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm I'm still suspect about their timing. It's no secret that there are some big fish in the river now. We've been releasing them for the past couple weeks above 205 with high expectation about keeping a few when the season commences this Saturday. The netters are after poundage. And I believe they planned this all along. :frown: __________________ The boat leaves the ramp at 0500. If you're there at 0501 and looking for me, you were late.

06-13-2007, 05:13 PM	#8
Save the Kings Cutthroat Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm Perception is so incredibly important, and they just do not get it! Let me guess they want to sell steelhead too! __________________

06-13-2007, 05:25 PM	#9
dawhunt Ifish Nate Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Washougal,WA. USA Posts: 2,009	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm We've been into springers almost everyday now and I know for a fact that there's summer chinook up here now also guess what their really after. Wonder if they'll be checked for fin clips when they bring their fish in this whole thing stinks !!!! JOIN THE CCA !!!!! __________________ Bob Dawson #71

06-13-2007, 05:48 PM	#10
Run-n-Gun Steelhead Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 117	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm What about the incidental Summer Steelhead catch. The river is full of them right now. Or, is the mesh size so large they won't catch any,..except the big ones. THIS SUCKS. WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH!!! Last edited by Run-n-Gun; 06-13-2007 at 05:52 PM.

06-13-2007, 07:39 PM	#14
alwaysfishing Ifish Nate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CR Troutdale Posts: 3,071	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm I don't have anything personally against any of the netters, but the nets should be banned on the Columbia. Most have real jobs like all of us, but they net too because they have the permits, most likely handed for generations. But seriously, how can they support their families on what little they get from the river, so they have other jobs. Their netting on top of what other income they have. My two cents is keep them nets out of the river below Bonnieville, the netters don't need to do it anyway. Shane __________________ Team Northriver Lamiglas Pro Team Shimano NWSteelheaders

06-13-2007, 09:07 PM	#16
duckunter Steelhead Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 168	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm "....Chum salmon were one of the target species taken in gill net fisheries in Oregon bays and in the lower Columbia River prior to the 1950s ...." Do they still put nets in the bays? I know the Kilches River gets a LOT of Chum Salmon, do the commercial guys get to net there too?

06-14-2007, 06:35 AM	#18
Bill Monroe King Salmon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon City Posts: 8,525	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm Mesh size is 8 inch minimum, so no, it's not likely to get many steelhead. Sandy River is a sanctuary mentioned in the motion to allow. There was some talk about potential regulation changes on the Willamette, although most have quit fishing down this low. Yes, D100...you told us so. __________________ Bill Monroe "Yet it isn't the gold that I'm wanting So much as just finding the gold." Robert Service

06-14-2007, 08:50 AM	#20
CATCH AND EAT King Salmon Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: S.E. Portland Posts: 19,843	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm This whole special interest thing getting preferential treatment is just wrong. Wait your turn netters. __________________ SHUT UP AND FISH! Recall, recall, recall!!!!!!!!!!!!

06-14-2007, 09:02 AM	#21
Ethical hunter Tuna! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,958	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm The run has been upgraded, this is great news! This is great news for all user groups! But, this is the best news for the fish. Yes, the run is low but better than forcast. EH

06-14-2007, 10:07 AM	#22
JIMBOUY Chromer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fairview Oregon Posts: 534	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm Saw two Gillnet boats on Marine Drive on the way into work this morning.........Now I know why. thanks Bill and E.H.

06-14-2007, 02:17 PM	#23
slabhunter Ifish Nate Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bayshore Posts: 3,466	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/crc/crc13jun07.htm __________________ "A cheerful heart is good medicine."

06-14-2007, 07:02 PM	#24
steelheadslayer Sturgeon Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Longview Posts: 3,686	Re: Rush Compact!!!! 3pm 8" min. mesh, they won't get many steelhead, they'll just get the bigger ones to take that DNA out of production. __________________ Immediately they left their nets and followed him. Matthew 4:20 "Opinions are like elbows, everyone seems to have a couple of em"-Phil Robertson

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