What would you do??

FishinMission · 04-20-2001, 01:43 PM

So you find that sweet spot. You know. Where you're hammering fish. People are seeing you. Soon...people are closing in on you. Soon...people are anchoring so close to you they're actually fishing out of YOUR boat. Then to top it off....when you leave...they take your spot. Then they leave their anchor in your spot overnite while they go home and sleep. Then suppose you get up in the middle of the nite to get to your spot before someone else does, and when you get there..you find an un-attended anchor buoy. Do you....A. Park next to it??.....B.Move it 100 feet one way or the other??? C. Arrange for it to mysteriously disappear?? Which one are you...and why??? I would consider myself a B with maybe a touch of C lurking. And why?? I think an anchor and bouy left out on the river in the dark is a hazard to navigation. I don't leave mine out there, I'd be worried all nite that someone would swipe it. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

chuck 'n' duck · 04-20-2001, 01:53 PM

Pull the anchor and keep it in your boat. When they show up, give them the anchor and tell them that they must be on crack if they think they can "save" a spot in the river overnight.

If they don't show up, you now have a spare anchor.

CnD

Pilar · 04-20-2001, 01:54 PM

Yeah what he said. What about D) Pull it up, add a cracked 350 CID Chevy block to the anchor and move it a 100 ft.

Hazard to navigation indeed! We have this problem wherever we sturgeon fish. People descend on our location like flies. We bag a limit and leave before they figure it out.

It's just plain stupid to act like you can own the river. If you see a guy getting into fish make a note of where and leave him be. He found it and will leave when he limits out. No one owns the earth, the water or the sky.

Mark the sweet spot with your Garmin and come back another day.

FishinMission · 04-20-2001, 02:06 PM

You two crack me up!! I knew I would get some good posts on this one. Let's see some more come in!! I'm still laughing!!

cureless1 · 04-20-2001, 02:09 PM

Never heard of such a thing.
I would move it and tie on some road kill. Pull up your anchor with a few skunks hooked on.

Bait O' Eggs · 04-20-2001, 02:11 PM

I would pull it and drop it 100 yards upriver to the side. Pull out the magic marker and write "Property of the dumbest @#&$)-er on the river" across the ball.

Might even sink a few trebble hooks in the rope about half way down, and several near the anchor.

Would definately cut the rope in 1/2 and tie a big bow knot where I splice it back together.

I would pull the pin out of the anchor puller that locks it in the up position so it had to be pulled by hand.

I would go over to the bank and get a big rock and tie it to the anchor making it about 150 pounds total.

Ok Ok .... I got some anger built up, I fished OC this morning and got a little perturbed when a guy pushed me out of my spot. Pilar is right about OC!!! Gonna sleep in and let the @)#%*)@*)@ers go fight amongst themselves tomorrow.

Pilar · 04-20-2001, 02:18 PM

Muh hah ha haha ha ha hahaa hahaaha

So, who's gonna leave their anchor out overnight?

How 'bout the Black's point gang in O.C. ?
They used to sleep in thier boats every night. Now that's determination!!!

FishinMission · 04-20-2001, 02:36 PM

Hey C'mon....I wasn't talking about Oregon City here!! And Pilar...I must confess..there been many nites I slept in my boat..Just not at Oregon City. It was like campin'..and to tell ya the truth...it was fun...but then it was August too...and a wee bit warmer!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Coot22 · 04-20-2001, 02:43 PM

FM,

Yeah, I saw what was happening to you out there. It was a pretty #$%tty thing to do. I saw you out there early in the season slaughtering them. The first day I saw you out there I saw you drop out five times. You had absolutely no one around you! A few days later, you had a driftboat on you left, a sled on your right, and then four boats directly above you!!! Ridiculous!!!

I think you should mess with their mind. You should go out there, pull their anchor, and then anchor into your slot. Next, you should drop their anchor just about ten feet to the right or left of you. As I recall, no one on either side of you really did any good whatsoever. So, when they show up, be real friendly and kind to them. Tell them that you saw their anchor and decided to anchor up next to it because they had already "saved that spot". As the day wares on...you slaughter the fish one after another and they dont get a touch. This would infuriate them for they would have no idea that their anchor had been moved!!! Just an idea! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

FishinMission · 04-20-2001, 02:52 PM

Coot....ya had ta be right there "on the spot" for that spot to produce. Even 2 -3 feet off the mark would really screw you up. Tuesday I couldn't get where I needed to be because there were 4 boats there...and NONE of them were in "THE SPOT"...but I still couldn't get into there without crowding someone. So I found another sweet spot about 200 yards upriver. While we sat there and boated 5 fish...the four boats had only hooked 2. Made me feel good!! [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

04-20-2001, 03:03 PM

You KNEW this post was ****** bait! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Personally, I've seen em' lay there too
long and end up on the upriver side of
Ive's Island!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

If you want to stay all night IN
your boat, that's hungry and that's part of
fishin' and gettin your spot. Otherwise:

GIT OUTTA AND GIT OFFA MY RIVER! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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FishinMission · 04-20-2001, 03:10 PM

You guys make me feel so much better. I was beginning to think I had a devilish side of me...that I alone posessed. Actually...the overnite bouy didn't get in my way...just my buddie's...who couldn't keep a secret.

boater · 04-20-2001, 05:10 PM

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Drachir · 04-20-2001, 05:13 PM

Had a similar thing happen to us 2 years ago out at 32 on the Columbia doing some Summer Steelhead fishing. We slaghtered them this particular day, hooked 13, and got the limit of six keepers that day. Boats started to crowd all around us, and when we got our last keeper we left. When we came out the next AM low and behold there was an anchor float right there in our spot. Being the first boat out that day, and there at 3 AM, with no other boats sight, we cut the rope and let the float go on down the river. When these idiots came out at 8 AM, and did not find their float, they started getting all *****, and by this time we had all our regulars out there with us, about 6 other boats, and we all clearly explained to them that leaving a float out there overnight, was probably illegal, and that we had called the Sherriff, who pulled the anchor and would be back to talk to him later. Needless to say this idiot got the Hell out of there, and we haven't seen him since. Boy was that fun when we all ganged up on this idiot, and read him the riot act, too much fun!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

KarenLee · 04-20-2001, 05:29 PM

last week I get up at 3am [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] drive for 1 hour, get my boat in the the water out to the piling line I like. Mind you it is 1 hour before daylight and 2 hours before the outgoing gets started. We find two bouys tied off to OUR CHOICE piling and no one around. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] Being nice folks we left them but gave it every thought already mentioned, including the treble hooks in the line [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] . One hour later at dawn a guy pulls up and ties off with another guy. Well we were able to enjoy the response they got from the old guy that shared his spot with us. He along with four others let them know about river etiquette. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] Basically told them its first come first serve. Next time we'll sink your bouys. Well they weren't there the next day. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

IIIII Like it!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Pete · 04-20-2001, 06:43 PM

Certainly the first thing I would do is move the darn thing. But I'd be kinda worried, too. Anyone so desperate that they can't find their own spot and need to go out and take someone else's may have other screws loose too.

OK, so the anchor and everything is moved. Now put a ticket on it. I know we all have computers, right!? Make up something really official informing the scaliwag that he has violated the Navigable Waterways act and created a hazard to navigation which carries the penalty of $300 bail. A court date can be arranged by remitting bail. If no court date is desired the bail will be forfeited.

If he does it again, move his anchor, grease his rope with a gallon of crisco and remove the bolt from his retreiver so he has to hand line the entire thing in. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

rags · 04-20-2001, 08:37 PM

I think I would simply pull the anchor and put it in my boat. When the doughball shows up I would tell them, "Hey, you forgot your anchor last night and I know how much these things cost so I pulled it up before someone stoled it." What a nice guy I am.

sinker · 04-20-2001, 11:53 PM

If you're fishing in a cuddy cabin or an enclosed bow you could always stow it away as a backup. If you "give" it back to him and tell him you were keeping it for safekeeping the only thing he is out of his his spot for the day.
If you need a backup, odds are he won't be anchoring anywhere that day at all, and he's gonna have to fork over the mulla to buy a new setup. That might wake him up pretty good.
As far as cutting the rope goes I don't agree with. For one, you've kind of got a form of pollution going down the river out to sea. The second reason is that now you've got a rope attached to the bottom of the river. Hmmmm, wonder why I keep snaggin up here???? [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Sockeye · 04-21-2001, 02:32 AM

I'm not sure what I would have done. Not to change the subject but this kind of thing happens when hunting too except worse. Sometimes people build nice little huts or we've "been hunting here for 20 years". They don't own the land just like people don't own a spot on the river. What would happen if I got there first? I say first one there gets the spot!

04-21-2001, 05:10 PM

Hey Pete, can I put my home address as where to mail the money from the tickets!! LOL. That's true though. I've had to throw away a couple pair of shorts, runnin' up on an
unattended anchor system in the river at night. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

FishinMission · 04-22-2001, 03:27 PM

Naw...far as I know....it was the black Alumaweld.

rob allen · 04-22-2001, 03:35 PM

ohhh I say that guy out there, they were a very loud obnoxious group i saw them catch a fish too. they netted a nate brought it into the boat for about a minute then released it. I hate trust stereotypes but they looked as though they came from a trailer park.
Before anyone hammers me on that back off i once lived in a trailerpark.

boater · 04-22-2001, 03:52 PM

"if" this ever happened to me and the thing was where i wanted to be, i`d pull it and put it in my boat, if the guy showed up looking for it and was nice about it, i`d give it back, if he started yelling, i`d keep it.

scott98541 · 04-22-2001, 04:33 PM

i think chuck n duck has the right plan [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]never have too many anchors.the treble hook idea sounds a little extreme for me, but would probably solve the problem.my favorite is the guys who anchor above and try to longline down below ya. oh well it takes all kinds. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] scotty

Killertraylor · 04-22-2001, 07:16 PM

All this devilish talk reminds me of another trick a friend of mine keeps talking about doing, but has never done. You should pull the anchor, cut the rope into a few 25' pieces, attach a crab buoy on the end, something really heavy on the other and go throw them in that spot on the lower Columbia where you used to fish alone for upriver brights but now every boat in the world fishes - you know the spot - on the washington side of the river in 35'-40' of water right underneath the Astoria Megler bridge - or the Ghost hole at Tillamook - there's got to be 50 others. Better yet, put about 6 of them out there, pop some popcorn and pull up a lawnchair on shore. There are few things worse than getting crowded out of a spot that you found. My deepest sympathies, Fishinmission!

rob allen · 04-22-2001, 11:20 PM

to sorta quote tom petty, or is it steve miller? i say..
"Go on cut the anchor and run hooo hooo".

I say anchor in the spot you want to fish if noone is there. If the anchor being there causes a hazard pull it up motor it to the beach and leave it. If noone claims it that day go buy a boat for your brand new anchor:O) after all what good is an anchor without a boat?

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine on the lower Deschutes. He got up at 3 am to ride his bike up to wagon blast when he got there is was just light enough to fish so he started fishing in an area where noone was. Pretty soon a guy comes down and starts yelling at him to get out of his spot. He had riden up the night before and camped. sorry to say it's the first one in the water. what was my friend gonna do wate for the guy to get out of bed and fish through the run?

Hey mission was the anchor belonging to a guy in a light blue lund??? If so next time you see him tell he better want a dented boat if he wants to fish that close to shore in an area known to have bank anglers.

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04-23-2001, 09:45 AM

Watch out here he comes!!!!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

FishinMission · 04-23-2001, 10:59 AM

Aww...I never got crowded out...I just found a better spot!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Steve · 04-23-2001, 11:54 PM

Just a few thoughts!!!
1. Dont cut the rope!!!!there are enough snags on the bottom of the river.
2. A bouy left on the river is abandoned. and should be covered under salvage rights.
3. After these dudes lose a few anchor systems they might learn.
Used to be that some of the guides used to do this at Dog Creek on the Clack...heard that one guide took over 400 chinook one season out of the same hole...don't think it was RT?...

FishinMission · 04-24-2001, 12:39 PM

Yeah...I know who you're talking about. I used to get up at three to be the first one there....and find that huge sled anchored right in the hole....with someone snoozing on board. I remember the guy's name...just won't mention it. But your post really brought back some memories.

Mr. Fisherman · 04-24-2001, 02:30 PM

I was going to post that ticket idea....

Hmmm, what about a couple of tubes of super glue [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]! Nothing like a dough head with a big ball glued to his hands [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img].

Makes for a funny picture in my head, but come to think of it it could be hazardous to have a dough ball glued to a ball unable to control his boat in current. Would that be a bad thing? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

What about pulling the anchor, tying some dacron with a series of hooks and about a 3# shad for bait, drop it back down with a few well placed trebels...... Fish on... Sucker! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Naw, I'm just not that mean.... [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Kind of fun to think about though [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] .

I like the salvage comment. Does anybody have experience with "salvaging" in a river? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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ol tuna skipper · 04-24-2001, 03:42 PM

I talked to a Tug captainwho informs me the salvage issue is a possibility. There are a couple of guys that retrieve the styrofoam floats for floating homes and floating docks. They colletct them and sell them back to homeowners. I think the devious tricks are a little extream, but I don't know if the law would argue with salvage issue. I say give it a try. How do you know this guy didn't accidentally loose his ancor [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] tee hee

rob allen · 04-25-2001, 10:01 AM

Hey i got a less extreme idea. how abougetting a mask umm say Richard Nixon cut it open a little and fit it over the bouy just let the guy know that what he did was wrong and that you don't appreciate it

KrystalFlash · 04-25-2001, 09:42 PM

Ahhheeemmmmm!

I absolutely hate this. Guys that do this are simply buffoons! There is no call for trying to cut anyone out of a spot. There are sooooo many spots on the rivers, this kind of behavior is absurd.
It is my belief that this is the result of laziness. If you want the spot that bad, get your lazy butt out of bed and get it in the morning. Shhheeessshh!
I say....get out there earlier and catch a peeler(oversize), tie the anchor bouy to him and let the dude chase it around for a while.
Definately pull it up and keep it until he shows....I think this is the best bet. When he arrives, tell him that God told you to pull it and save him....He'll leave you alone after that..... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]))
I'd rather be lucky than good!