Moniker woes.

[RvW]

After speaking to 3 IFish members recently, and briefly touching on the subject of my moniker. I feel a slight need to explain something here.

My moniker has absolutely NOTHING to do with abortion, or the supreme court case that lead to its legality.

Its a matter of "choice" among many fishermen:

To row
Or to wade.

"Row Vs Wade" (with all its irony) is simply a play on words that applies to fishing, and IFish membership only.

Should I row today? Or should I wade today?

I was a little disappointed to learn that several Ifishers assumed my moniker was a political statement. So, I just want to clear the air with a post. I dont waste my time pondering what others might think in regard to such a personal issue as abortion...(nor am I interested in conclusions) but I somehow feel that a decision to row, or to wade is a deep seeded judgment call that we may all ponder at one time or another in our lives, and I am happy to share my occasional inner angst with regard to that decision among other fisher-people, without so much as an indication of which I would prefer to do given the circumstances.



Silly to have to explain the punch line of a joke. But there it is.

[Tagster]

I really liked your old one...great play on words.

Too many people have too much time on their hands to worry about other people's business.

What right do they have to question what you choose as a moniker?

Even if it was a statement about abortion, you could not infer how you felt one way or the other from the simple statement "Row vs. Wade".

Keep on keeping on!

[RvW]

Hey Tag, how are you?
I agree, but the post wasnt meant to imply that the people who "didnt know" spend too much time pondering controversial complexities. The humor simply evaded them for one reason or another... when I explained it, they understood immediately and got a good laugh out of it. I simply dont want anyone to think my moniker implies a political statement or a matter of personal opinion...its just a silly joke, much the same as my old monikers "Cirrhosis of the River" and "Sled Nugent" were. When they brought it up it shocked me that it could be interpreted another way...I am not one to spend any time with such subjects.
I need to get off Ifish and quit spending so much time here, and start spending more time with the people Ive met through it. Hate to meet someone on the river and get "snickers" from someone who mis-interpreted the meaning behind the moniker...know what I mean?

[Tagster]

I understand what you are saying and I think that perhaps I am ultra sensitive to people trying to push an agenda.

I also need to get some separation from the keyboard and start fishing again. My boat is sitting in consignment hell so my options are limited. I have been looking fondly at my Hodgemans, though. It seems like every time I put them on, they get a little smaller. hm, must be defective.

Take it easy...

[RvW]

Consignment=adoption?

DONT abort the waders! drop them off at goodwill. I have a pair that will fit you. (Joes best non-neoprene) Their yours. Lets go fishing.

[Tagster]

Unfortunately, the Hodgemans are the non neoprene breathlites or something like that.

I'm pretty sure that I can still squeeze into them...sounds fun!

[StickFish]

I got it, I did have to think about it for about 3 seconds, but paddle vs. walking wet didn't take too long

[cougfan]

I prefer to Row Vs Wade

[Swamp Puppy]

some people will complain about anything....i like the moniker, found it humourous and a sign of intelligence that someone could make such an interesting play on words.

i can almost visualize a fisherman standing on a bank next to his boat and pondering this very dilemma.

and..it applies to us duck hunters too. betchya didn't think about that. lol.

[Cool Texan]

R v W.... I thought your name was VERY clever. I didnt for a second take it as a political message...I took it for what it was, fishing related and a nice play on words. Dont change anything because of the grumpy butts on here. Just tell them to mind their own business.

That said, Swamp Puppy, I find your moniker insensitive to areas that retain extra water. Please rename yourself as "Aquatically Challenged Adolescent Canine". Thank you.

[greenbuttskunk]

I too should explain mine. I get some funny looks and comments like
Hey, what is your moniker supposed to mean?

No I'm not green, don't have a butt (according to my wife), and only occasionally smell like skunk.
The Green Butt Skunk is a summer steelhead fly. A damn good one, and my favorite "go to" fly on rivers such as the deschutes.

RVW, always loved the moniker brother!

[Irish Pennant]

CT I find your moniker to be offensive, there's only one Cool Texan and he's running around the White House...........








BARNEY




Well OK he's Scottish

[Gundog]

I will admit I thought is was a political statement. I have friends who are liberal and some that are conservative I feel everyone has the right to thier beliefs and I feel lucky enough that I can except them either way. I do like the play on words though and now feel a little stupid I did not pick up on it. As far as politics go I feel I land somewhat in the middle because I feel strongly about many issues that don't fit well with one group and vise versa.

By my moniker you probably think I hunt a lot. I have not hunted in 12 years I got my name because I used to competition shoot a lot. By the way I love to hunt and have nothing against hunting. I started doing machine work as a hobby and when I joined my first board a machinist site all the cool machinist names were taken so I settled for Gundog since I was mostly learning to do gunsmithing type work. I have always used the same name from board to board so if you see me on another board you will know it is me.
GD

[Cool Texan]

I always just assumed from your moniker that you shoot puppies. Ooops...my bad.

[Pagorits]

RvW, I think most "got it" right away. The spelling is different. However, if you're on the Deschutes you get to row AND wade.
GBS, I wonder where Green Butt Skunk originated, not you but the name for the fly?

[RvW]

Brad, its been years, but my first glance at your moniker, I thought you might be in the glaucoma business.

[Swamp Puppy]

CT - though i only find your moniker to be slightly misleading, i do find your avatar to be in extremely poor taste. such a blatant disregard for one of the fundamental rules of gun safety has no place on a family forum!

[Cool Texan]

Ha ha.... coming from the guy with the ship-o-death in his...and that water looks polluted too! AND...I see no rod holders on that boat!

[Swamp Puppy]

Originally Posted by Cool Texan

...and that water looks polluted too!

good call..it's the Columbia River. LOL!!!!

[Something Good]

I understood your moniker right away and thought it was very clever. I do not have anything to row therefore I must wade for my dinner.

Tag if your ready for a saltwater adventure come hali season give me a shout.

[HntnFsh]

Ive always thought you have some of the cleverest monikers Ive seen. Didnt realize the others were yours till I read your post.

I will cut some of those in the dark about the meaning some slack.Only because I find myself pretty dense or naive at times. I just try not to let it show too often.

[SlipKnot]

HA. For a minute, I thought yours was referring to "the" Row vs. Wade but I was smart enough to figure it out, DUH.

I had someone ask me, "so, your into heavy metal, eh?" I said, huh? Never crossed my mind that moniker was some metal band.

In reality, it became my nickname after a friend lost a very, very large fall chinook a few years ago while fishing in Astoria. When the empty line came back, it was obvious that the knot I had tied slipped. He said a number of things I can't repeat followed by "slipknot" and it stuck.

SN

[IDWITHELD]

Thanks for the explination RVW.....
Enough with the agenda garbage. Everyone is different. grow some skin people. Get used to it.

I was never here. I will deny it if asked.

kidding

[Hogmaster]

Anyone should be able to see that Doug was using a play on words. Sorry, I don't buy the idea that it was always "just" about rowing versus wading.

It was being creative and cute with a moniker.

"Rowing versus Wading" would have had the same meaning, implying the decision one sometimes makes but it was not, now was it?

It may call attention to the underlying case, but it, in itself as has been pointed out, is not political because it takes no stance on the issue. He didn't make the moniker, "I [hate or support] Row versus Wade."

Nor was it "I sometimes Row versus Wade".

Was it inciteful? Or insightful? Or just a little kidding around.

Doug, don't make your next one 9-11!

Some people just have no lives.

out.

[fishbait]

WHEW...........

I'm glad you cleared that up as I have not been sleeping well at night......

Talk about a slow news day

So row vs. wade, what have you got against power boaters.......


I need to get out more, thinking of changeing my moniker to fishbrains.

[Joe Schmo]

amazing... I thought everybody on this site was thinking fishing 24/7!! I guess not. U da man

[RvW]

Whoa. Hey I just wanted to avoid anyone else getting the wrong impression and possibly allow it to be a source of contention based on the abortion thing. Youre right hogmaster, its just a play on words that apply to fishing, with the irony of the supreme court case of the same name. The final paragraph in the original post is meant to be a bit of tongue in cheek humor.

I guess I need to emphasize that the people who didnt see the humor in the moniker just didnt spend any time thinking about it I guess. No cross words, no exchange of opinion, and none of them are less than intelligent kind people who just missed the humor. A while back a member on the board posted his discontent in my audacity to chose such a controversial subject as a moniker. That was the only case Ive witnessed foot in mouth syndrome but after this past week of having to explain it to a few people, I thought to myself "I sure hope there arent more people who think this and are possibly angered or perturbed by it"

I'm glad you cleared that up as I have not been sleeping well at night......

Gee thanks Steve. I simply attempted to explain it to those who may have thought I was making a political statement, it has happened on 4 occasions now that I know of. Only one time has it been reacted to in a negative way, but Id like to know that others are not assuming I have some sort of an agenda with my moniker, and respond to me with some sort of attitude or assumptions based on that silly idea. Sorry I brought it up.

[CATCH AND EAT]

Doug, take a deep breath bro. Don't worry about what the petty folks think about your ID here. I thought it was cool and liked it better than your last one. I am sure if the mods had issue with it it would have been dealt with long ago. Don't worry, Row VS Wade is more creative than putting up your boat numbers (no offense intended to those that have done this). Besides that I think your posts here are usually of value and merrit reading when I see them.

Don't Change. Don't Worry. Ignore the thin skinned.

[Just_learning]

atleast they brought it to your attention instead of whining like babies to the mods to have you change it. Or maybe in this case ignorance on the part of other people is okay.

[RvW]

Originally Posted by Just_learning

Or maybe in this case ignorance on the part of other people is okay.

How many ways can I say that the people who recently brought it up are not ignorant? They just missed the connection which made me uncomfortable.
If you understand the moniker, how can you not understand the purpose of my post?
Hello?
Anyone home?

[Just_learning]

RvW,
I was expressing satisfaction that the people brought it to your attention instead of complaining the the mods resulting in you having to change it. My reply was personal, however not aimed at you.

I'm answering the door, wanna come in and play?

[RvW]

Sorry I misinterpreted your comment. Those who mentioned it recently are good communicators and very nice people and Im sure they wouldnt have the slightest desire to "complain" to me or anyone in control of the board.
I hate to give them the impression that I think otherwise of them. I made it more of an issue than they did for one reason, I dont want anyone to think my moniker is political or driven by a belief or disbelief. This whole thing has gone well beyond the intention. I just wanted to throw it out there for anyone else who may have assumed my moniker was anything more than a joke.
I am sooo freakin sick of it anyway. It was funny once, now its a little like the tattoo I dont remember having before I left for Mexico. Its just there and I dont care why anymore.

No, I dont assume anyone is losing sleep over this. Thanks to those who pointed out how trivial my concern about a possible issue is to you. Can we resume kissing the backsides of people we like, and discretely alienating those we assume we dont now?
Thanks.

[Ryan Pultz]

Ahahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Irish Pennant

CT I find your moniker to be offensive, there's only one Cool Texan and he's running around the White House...........








BARNEY




Well OK he's Scottish

[happybrew]

As a guy who has picketed clinics, held signs, attended rallies, and ticked off an awful lot of people with my stand on the topic whose name shall never again be mentioned on Ifish by me on pain of permanent banning....



I simply thought it was a clever pay on words.

happybrew (whose name probably ticks off the prohibitionist community here on Ifish.)

[fishbait]

Now that I am rested, I guess I will chime in here once more.

Good for you for being proactive and taking the time to explain your moniker. Good for yor for not wanting to offend anyone......

Now, for those uf us that got it we just saw this as an open opportunity to take the usual cheap pot shots.

Like you said........ "Can we resume kissing the backsides of people we like, and discretely alienating those we assume we dont now? "

I still think you should change it to Row vs. Wade vs. Steer vs. Anchor

Ok, thats my last cheap shot, it's up to Bernie now..............

Fishbreath

[CATCH AND EAT]

Cheapshot delivery?

You mean like Fishbait = talking rod holder

that kind of cheapshot? I would never take one like that with any of my friends or aquaintences no matter how I felt about them. To lower my standards to a level such as this would be incomprehensible Steve. I cannot believe you would even challenge me on such a thing.

Doug, I must appologize for my friend Steve, Fishbait as he has obviously been spending way to many of his waking hours playing lovey dovey with that perty girly of his.

There, how was that?

[DAB]

Row VS. Wade
First time I seen your moniker I was miffid just because I would have liked it for mine and you already had it. NO WAY HOSE -A.... or is that HOSE-B.... Then there is that Greenbuttskunk fella THOUGHT he was a skunk with a green butt.
Then there is HAPPYBREW, thought he made beer
I thinks I gots to much time on me hands.

My moniker came from an old commercial. "Brylcream, A little DAB will do ya." and it is also my initials.
Whom else can I pick on???
DAB

[Hogmaster]

Reaction?

What do you think people who don't know anything about salmon fishing think when they are exposed to my moniker???

:blush: :blush: :blush:

[happybrew]

Ummm, actually, I do make beer...

[anglingaddict]

Monikers being play on words?! Well dip me in axle grease and call me slick!!! ( LOVE that movie!!! )

Seriously though Row, thanks from me for explaining. I have taken no offense, nor thought of any "agenda", the play on the words just wasn't getting through my thick skull. Figured I'd get it one of these days and that day is today! Now greenbuttskunk...can't even go where I was thinking!!! Swamp Puppy......hhhhhmmmmm.....thinking wet dog and not wanting to fish down wind! Just picked those two to demonstrate my "simple" way of thinking. Heck, look at mine. I'm addicted to fishing and have given the initials A.A. new meaning!!!

[fishnwHim]

Originally Posted by DAB

Row VS. Wade
First time I seen your moniker I was miffid just because I would have liked it for mine and you already had it. NO WAY HOSE -A.... or is that HOSE-B.... Then there is that Greenbuttskunk fella THOUGHT he was a skunk with a green butt.
Then there is HAPPYBREW, thought he made beer
I thinks I gots to much time on me hands.

My moniker came from an old commercial. "Brylcream, A little DAB will do ya." and it is also my initials.
Whom else can I pick on???
DAB

A little DAB will do ya ? I am learning all kinds of things from you , like DRACHIR being his name backwards, can't believe how long I scratched my head on that one.

RVW , your moniker has always been one of my fav's, I'd say it is pretty much perfecto, I vote Wade .

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by fishnwHim

A little DAB will do ya ? I am learning all kinds of things from you , like DRACHIR being his name backwards, can't believe how long I scratched my head on that one.

RVW , your moniker has always been one of my fav's, I'd say it is pretty much perfecto, I vote Wade .

DRACHIR.........RIHCARD?

[fishnwHim]

Originally Posted by Jaws

DRACHIR.........RIHCARD?

I don't like doing things backwards , dunno ????

[Ethical hunter]

I too have had problems with both my monikers. I was forced to change my first one because of respondants constantly violating the AUP. Now some think that being ethical is discriminatory against those who are not and it has been requested I change again. I have a good one if I do change - still thinking about it.

Row vs Wade, I understand your dilema. However you have invited the contraversy upon yourself and no I am not blaming the victim.

Why didnt you choose "Wade vs Row"? It contains the exact same message without the potential abortion reference.

EH

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by Ethical hunter

I too have had problems with both my monikers. I was forced to change my first one because of respondants constantly violating the AUP. Now some think that being ethical is discriminatory against those who are not and it has been requested I change again. I have a good one if I do change - still thinking about it.

Row vs Wade, I understand your dilema. However you have invited the contraversy upon yourself and no I am not blaming the victim.

Why didnt you choose "Wade vs Row"? It contains the exact same message without the potential abortion reference.

EH

Well said EH. I'm thinking of changing my moniker to "A Boar Shun". Which everyone knows to mean "avoid wild pigs"

[Cool Texan]

ha ha....dat's funny!

[D-tangle]

I've always seen monikers as being a reflection of the persons creativity and personality. A simple moniker is no nonsense person and a funny moniker is a more creative thinker. Row vs Wade is one of the best and I never doubted its creativity on a fishing website.

Lots of good monikers here to make you chuckle.

[RvW]

Originally Posted by Jaws

Well said EH. I'm thinking of changing my moniker to "A Bore Shun". Which everyone knows to mean "avoid wild pigs"

Did you mean A BOAR shun?


"A Bore shun" or "A boar shun"... I wouldnt recommend either, someone (outside of Texas) might interpret it as a definition of one of your posts.

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by Row Vs. Wade

Did you mean A BOAR shun?


"A Bore shun" or "A boar shun"... I wouldnt recommend either, someone (outside of Texas) might interpret it as a definition of one of your posts.

You can talk the talk but you don't walk the walk. Didn't you just post on another thread about people critisizing(sp) Others with bad spelling and grammer?

[RvW]

No criticism in my post, nothing misspelled in yours to criticize....I just asked which of the two proper spellings you meant to use thats all.

Do you have an answer?

Oh, and I do walk the walk...You didnt see me criticize CT for his serious misuse of the word "funny" did you?

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by Row Vs. Wade

No criticism in my post, nothing misspelled in yours to criticize....I just asked which of the two proper spellings you meant to use thats all.

Do you have an answer?

Oh, and I do walk the walk...You didnt see me criticize CT for his serious misuse of the word "funny" did you?

Yes, you were making fun of the way I spell. Not to mention your fine opinion of my posts.

[JustCallMeDave]

Play nice.

[RvW]

Originally Posted by JustCallMeDave

Play nice.

Oh come on! You should have locked this thread three days ago Dave!

[JustCallMeDave]

Is that a suggestion?

[RvW]

Makes no difference to me.

[JustCallMeDave]

Good.

[slabhunter]

Doug if I may call you that. Don't sweat the screen name issue. At least you don't see another guy's boat on the Columbia with your moniker.
I enjoy names with double inuendo. Why wouldn't I, since my boat is named "Jiggler." Before her I had the "Fog Sea Lady."

Hans

[RvW]

"Fog-Sea Lady"

Nice.

[RODACTION]

Monikers are interesting, I have asked several on how they arrived at the moniker, or what it means.

I have heard alot of good little explanations, and storys, then some need no explanation at all

[JustCallMeDave]

I have no idea what mine means.