Creek abuse

[Timber Man]

Just had a question.We recently sold our place and it has Lacumas creek running through the back 5 acres.The people that bought it are putting a cross fence up and running there bobcat right through the creek.Is this legal?It angers me this creek has a few kings and chum that spawn every few years a couple will wonder up this way.Who can I call to find out the deal here.not only that they cut some brush from beside the creek and threw it right in the water and let it float away!!!!TM

[DanS]

TM,

If you call the Dept. of Ecology, they can let you know if any laws are being broken. It's abuses like this that lead to new land-use restrictions. Let us know what you find out.

Fish on...........

[myco-mike]

TM,
If you don't have any luck at the Dept. Of Ecology, call the Governor's Office in Salem. DO NOT settle for less. I know from experience it's tought to even get the State out to look at the problem much less enforce anything. Good Luck!!!

jj

[Osprey]

Oh sure call Salem that'll help (jk) .....Os

[Osprey]

Dang Redneck
Good job,finally all those State connections paying off for Ya huh.

I'm soo proud of you....snif snif sob naaa

[DK]

and make a note of each phone # or keep them handy because your in for a long game of musical chairs good luck dk. p.s. been there not much fun best step to take is to take your viedo camera down there the rest will fall in to place

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Let's just say, if it's out there, then I can find it....muh ha ha ha ha ha Don't mess with a ****** off redneck [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

This new version is scccarrrrry. Now I can rate you people...muh ha ha ha ha ha

[Phish_on]

Are ya going ENVIRO on us? It'll grow back! [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[Timber Man]

What trees don't grow back??????? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Here's someone to contact Timberman.

Curt Hart, Public Information Manager (425) 649-7009; pager, (206) 663-1785

If that guy doesn't have a permit, talk about water masters or stream patrolmen to the guy. Here is something pulled from their website:

RCW 90.58.220
General penalty.
In addition to incurring civil liability under RCW 90.58.210, any person found to have wilfully engaged in activities on the shorelines of the state in violation of the provisions of this chapter or any of the master programs, rules, or regulations adopted pursuant thereto shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor, and shall be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than ninety days, or by both such fine and imprisonment: PROVIDED, That the fine for the third and all subsequent violations in any five-year period shall be not less than five hundred nor more than ten thousand dollars: PROVIDED FURTHER, That fines for violations of RCW 90.58.550, or any rule adopted thereunder, shall be determined under RCW 90.58.560.

Mike, you really do care! Cool dude. And I am proud of you!!! You've come a long ways, redishneck [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . - Steve

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Scratch calling that guy. How about this list to get you started?

Mailing Address: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600
Physical Address: 300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503

Information & Receptionist: 360-407-6000

TTY for Hearing Impaired: 360-407-6006

Director Tom Fitzsimmons 360-407-7001

Deputy Director Joe Williams 360-407-7044

Director of Intergovernmental Relations Bill Alkire 360-407-7003

Director of Communication and Education Sheryl Hutchison 360-407-7004

Director of Employee Services Joy St. Germain 360-407-6218

Chief Financial Officer Nancy Stevenson 360-407-7005
Budget Administrative Services Manager Carol Fleskes 360-407-7012

Information Management
Air Quality Program Manager Mary Burg 360-407-6880

Shorelands & Environmental Assistance Prog. Mgr. Gordon White 360-407-6977

Padilla Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve 360-428-1558

Breazeale-Padilla Bay Interp. Center, 1043 Bay View-Edison Road, Mt. Vernon WA 98273
Environmental Assessment Program Manager Bill Backous 360-407-6699

Laboratory (local map and driving instructions)
7411 Beach Drive East, Port Orchard, WA 98366-8204 360-871-8860

Quality Assurance Section
P.O. Box 488, 2350 Colchester Drive, Manchester, WA 98353-0488 360-895-4649

Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Prog. Mgr. Greg Sorlie 360-407-6702

Nuclear Waste Program Manager Mike Wilson 360-407-7150

Hanford Project Office (local map and driving instructions)
1315 W. 4th Avenue, Kennewick, WA 99336-6018

Information & Receptionist: 509-735-7581

TTY for Hearing Impaired: 509-736-3039

Solid Waste & Financial Assistance Prog. Mgr. Cullen Stephenson 360-407-6103

Spills Program Manager Joe Stohr 360-407-7450

Puget Sound Field Office
1011 SW Klickitat Way - Suite 211, Seattle, WA 98134 206-389-2431

Columbia River Field Office
811 SW Sixth Avenue - 8th floor, Portland, OR 97204 503-229-6103

Toxics Cleanup Program Manager Jim Pendowski 360-407-7177

Water Quality Program Manager Megan White 360-407-6405

Water Resources Program Manager Keith Phillips 360-407-6602

Northwest Regional Office (Map of Ecology's Regions)
(local map and driving instructions)
3190 - 160th Ave. SE, Bellevue, WA 98008-5452

Information & Receptionist: 425-649-7000

TTY for Hearing Impaired: 425-649-4259

Regional Director Ray Hellwig 425-649-7010

Air Quality Doug Brown 425-649-7082

Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Julie Sellick 425-649-7053

Shorelands & Environmental Assistance Jeannie Summerhays 425-649-7096

Solid Waste & Financial Assistance George Sidles 425-649-7076

Spills Paul O'Brien 425-649-7130

Toxics Cleanup Steven Alexander 425-649-7054
Water Resources Dan Swenson 425-649-7270
Water Quality Kevin Fitzpatrick 425-649-7033
Bellingham Field Office Richard Grout 360-738-6250
(local map and driving instructions)
1204 Railroad Avenue, Suite 200, Bellingham, WA 98225
Information and Receptionist: 360-738-6250
Southwest Regional Office (Map of Ecology's Regions)
(local map and driving instructions)
Mailing Address: PO Box 47775, Olympia, WA 98504-7775
Physical Address: 300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503
Information & Receptionist: 360-407-6300
TTY for Hearing Impaired: 360-407-6306
Regional Director Sue Mauermann 360-407-6307
Air Quality Myron Saikewicz 360-407-6325
Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Kay Seiler 360-407-6341
Shorelands & Environmental Assistance Gale Blomstrom 360-407-0271
Solid Waste & Financial Assistance Laurie Davies 360-407-6381
Spills Eric Heinitz 360-407-6375
Toxic Cleanup Tim Nord 360-407-6241
Water Resources Mike Harris 360-407-6389
Water Quality Kelly Susewind 360-407-6271
Vancouver Field Office Iloba Odum 360-690-7170
(local map and driving instructions)
2108 Grand Boulevard, Vancouver, WA 98661-4622
Information: 360-690-7171
TTY for Hearing Impaired: 360-690-7147
Central Regional Office (Map of Ecology's Regions)
(local map and driving instructions)
15 West Yakima Ave -- Suite 200, Yakima, WA 98902-3452
Information and Receptionist: 509-575-2490
TTY for Hearing Impaired: 509-454-7673
Regional Director Polly Zehm 509-457-7120
Air Quality Susan Billings 509-575-2486
Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Brian Dick 509-454-7659
Shorelands & Environmental Assistance 509-574-3992
Solid Waste & Financial Assistance Darlene Frye 509-457-7123
Spills Mark Layman 509-454-7829
Toxics Cleanup Don Abbott 509-454-7838
Water Quality Tom Tebb 509-457-7107
Water Resources Bob Barwin 509-574-3989
Methow Valley Field Office John Stormon 509-454-7832
502 Glover St., Twisp, WA 98856
Eastern Regional Office (Map of Ecology's Regions)
(local map and driving instructions)
N. 4601 Monroe -- Suite 202, Spokane, WA 99205-1295
Information and Receptionist: 509-456-2926
TTY for Hearing Impaired: 509-458-2055
Regional Director Tony Grover 509-456-6149
Air Quality Grant Pfeifer 509-456-3284
Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Jim Malm 509-456-2725
Shorelands & Environmental Assistance 509-456-2994
Solid Waste & Financial Assistance Mike Hibbler 509-456-3270
Spills Mark Stephens 509-456-6113
Toxics Cleanup Flora Goldstein 509-456-7693
Water Resources George Schlender 509-456-5057
Water Quality Carl Nuechterlein 509-456-6198

......well that should get you started. Let us know what you found out.


[This message has been edited by hey_yall (edited 03-20-2001).]

[smilesforu]

Locally we would sick the county dudes on them. So also try your local planning department and they can tell you if a permit was issued. Good luck

[sinker]

My mom had a problem with guys logging behind her. It's a very wet area and she knew she'd end up with the runoff. I told her to call the Dept of Natural Resources. They had someone out that day. Shut 'em down on the spot...no permit. I was impressed with the response time. Now if only the cops showed up that quick [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Hey Sinker, does your mother know you talk about her that way? [img]images/icons/blush.gif[/img] ..... jk

[Timber Man]

UPDATE-They came out yesterday and shut them down!!But I don't know if they gave them a fine or not...But guess what!! today they were back at it!!I called once again and they said that all construction should be haulted until the investigation was complete,,So I to be a RAT again...Time for something to be done.What a joke!! [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] The creek is full of mud.JUST LIKE WHEN I'M DONE CUTTIN TREES [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!

[Shannon]

Some bozos back in 1998 changed the flow of the Mollala river and got busted big time. I'm glad to see you want to seek out help on this problem. I hope things work out to benefit the fishes return.